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    A few times recently, I've had this situation come up, and I guess guys in the area are so broke due to the economy that they've started to expect more for their money. Fuckers...

    So anyways. I'll go up to a guy and try to sell a private dance. And they'll get very obviously interested, but then they start feeling the waters. You know, like, "So, how much can we really do back there," or, "So...what do I get for $50?" Or, "How much of you do I get to see for $X" (my club is in NY, where you can't be topless in the dances when the club serves alcohol; so no clothes really come off except on stage). I don't know, maybe I'm not getting their one-liners right, but you get what I mean...when they're trying to see if I'm going to give them extras. I know a lot of girls have no problem being like, "oh, baby, you get to do whatever you want," or basically tell them they'll give sexual favors. Then they go in the back, and the girl doesn't do anything of the sort, and the guy gets angry, and maybe grabby, then the bouncers kick him out, and he's all pissed off. And sure, the girl gets her $50 or whatever...but now that guy is going to remember that situation, and he's probably not going to come back, especially if he wasn't a regular custie in the first place.

    I, on the other hand, have never even flirted with that concept. If a guy asks, I'll rather bluntly say, "I'll give you a great dance, but I'm not doing anything illegal." And recently, I kind of get the feeling that it's making me lose a little money. But I feel really, really weird leading a guy on so he thinks he gets to finger me as soon as we get in the back, and then he gets thrown the fuck out as soon as he tries.

    What do you think about this situation? Any advice?

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    Default Re: Getting the Wrong Idea

    I just write these guys off. They're always the cheapest, anyway. Just get rid of them as soon as they start this and go find someone else.

    And it's not a good idea to promise extras anyway. If the guy turns out to be a cop, just agreeing to do extras can get you busted.

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    Default Re: Getting the Wrong Idea

    Chrissy68 had a really good answer to a similar question earlier this week.

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    There are multiple ways to combat the "what will you do", but my top three are:
    1. "well i cant really explain it, but i will tell you no one has ever been disappointed." (seductive smile while making eye contact, maybe even touch your hand to your outside (the side he isnt on) breast)

    2. "what happens in the dance area, stays in the dance area... and i usually have repeat offenders." (seductive smile making eye contact ditto as above)

    3. start with, "well i dont usually give away my secrets, but something about you makes me comfortable." then explain a lil of your dance in a hot and breathy way: "first i will undress, and ill lean my body against yours, feeling your cock with my leg as i gently tease you with my knee.. then ill start to grind my ass into your lap, while playing with my tits.... ill rub my hard nipples all over you etc etc type of stuff..
    ***BUT as soon as he seems into it, stop, and say, come on let me show you.. and smile. a guaranteed sell if done correctly.***
    I think guys get nervous when you mention activities being illegal... maybe they automatically equate that to being prude? If they don't go for one of Chrissy's lines though, I would say don't bother.
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    I'm with you and have a similar attitude towards dancing. Be vague and never blatantly tell them that which you will not deliver. Also what Alvia said because its not worth it.

    My credo is never give them what they really want. Ever.

    Mainly my default answer to the curious is "let's go see."

    BUT don't waste too much time with them, not more than a song. It's okay if they are cheap and if you can get a dance or two the better. These are the guys that I upsell hard and don't feel bad about it. Some see it as a challenge "I wonder how much I can pay her to get what I want?" or some see that they are getting nowhere, but hey at least I tried.

    When guys ask if they can touch I tell them Yes! In my mind they can touch my hair, my leg, my arms, my face etc.

    My club is the same no topless lap dances and I love when guys ask "What are the rules?" I just say "Hell I don't know." or "Well I don't have any rules but the city does." If they are too handsy I love moving their hand or shifting away and playfully telling them "you're going to get me in trouble."

    Because it seems like I want it (bwwaaaaha NOT!) but I'm being watched like a hawk.

    Who cares if a customer gets angry. You are not their personal property they can do whatever with. It's rare that a guy gets pissed but that is just because their expectations are too high.

    Never over promise. Just don't tell them the whole story. If they get the wrong idea that is their problem, not yours.




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    Default Re: Getting the Wrong Idea

    ^^ I'm also big on acting like of course I want it, but the club won't let me. In dances, I use it to sell VIP. "You totally have to sit on your hands in a regular dance, honey; I don't mind being touched, but the club says I have to save it for VIP! Let's go there!" I never say *where* I don't mind being touched until the room is paid for. If e pushes for details, he's going for more than I'll give him anyway, so I finish the dance and I still have $20 and now he knows what to expect in my club.

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    Another problem is that my club doesn't really have a VIP. We have, like this little roped off area with a few couches, but it's not like he buys the time from YOU. He just rents VIP by the hour, and then there's no privacy, or even the illusion of privacy. There are curtains he can let down, so customers stay away, but dancers will come wandering in every 30 seconds, and several of them will never leave. It fucking sucks, and I usually stay away from it. The cutthroat shit just is NOT worth it. I've even had a guy basically buy my time for like an hour in VIP, and didn't want any other girls in there, but chicks kept wandering in and he started to get really pissed off about it, cause he was picky and thought all the girls were annoying. And the VIP dances are really about the same as private dances, so there's no upselling, but they rarely tip as much as you'd get in the back. It sucks.

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