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    bit random i know, but are there any dancers who do porn aswell as dancing?

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    A girl I work with did for a while, and then quit porn.

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    yes,I do. I know a few other that do as well

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    I know of one. Seems to me stripping pays more on a consistent basis.




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    It definitely happens. I've known a few girls who did both. I suspect that porn is also good advertising for your stripping career, if you have local fans.

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    Aren't a lot of porn stars also feature dancers? I always thought feature dancing was a good way for adult actresses to tour, meet fans, sell merchandise, and generally get their names out there. I've also heard, conversely, of some dancers who do porn just so that they can start getting booked as a feature.

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    bit random i know, but are there any dancers who do porn aswell as dancing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winged Dinghy View Post
    Aren't a lot of porn stars also feature dancers? I always thought feature dancing was a good way for adult actresses to tour, meet fans, sell merchandise, and generally get their names out there. I've also heard, conversely, of some dancers who do porn just so that they can start getting booked as a feature.
    You are right on both accounts. Many porn stars do feature dance, and amazingly enough some of them have never danced until they start featuring... which tells you that it's more about the name and credits. As far as making more money as a feature, that depends on what the feature is charging. I had one friend who did porn and featured, she charged $500 for a lapdance. Another one I know charges $200 for a lapdance. Some charge as little as $50 though. So how much money you bring in really depends on how well known you are, how good of a performer you are, and if you are good at sales.

    Unless you are a contract girl with a major company, you can't really expect to get paid much in porn. I know probably at least 6 local girls who dance and do porn. Their scenes might pay around $300 each. That is NOT per hour though... it's per scene - and a scene can take longer than an hour to film. None of these dancers feature though, they don't have big enough names yet.

    If you are considering doing this find yourself a really good agent and make damn certain that every single person you do a scene with has very recent AIM testing, possibly even since their most recent scene. Most of the industry is pretty safe, but there is always the chance and you don't want to end up like Lara Roxx. Poor girl! I met her 2 years ago and I still can't believe what happened to her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsuXz_smc0g

    FYI You can feature without doing porn, for example with modeling credits like Hustler and Penthouse. Just get as much print and web work as you can. You might not make as much money, but you'll still be featuring!
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    Spearmint Rhino in Melbourne had Jesse Jane as a feature recently and not only did she get a couple of grand in stage tips, a dance was auctioned off and two guys paid $1300 EACH for the pleasure!

    I'd love to do porn but with current boyfriend that comes on demand, stays hard gets going and comes again - LOL he'd probably be more in demand than me!!! So yeah by the way anyone done a shoot with a partner?

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    ^^^ I just interviewed Jesse at the AEE. I'll let you all know when the interview is out, but she is one who never stripped before featuring. She does have dance & cheer training though... so at least she's coordinated.
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    Her routine got way better by the end her three day schedule, she went from spastic to energetic, still how such a skinny little girl can have so much energy I don't get but hey if grands are being thrown at you who wouldn't go a bit mental!!!

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    Does doing an amateur shoot for this Polish guy count? It was me and my bf, and we made $500 a piece.
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    ^^^ Yes, she does have a LOT of energy!
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    I do a little porn along with dancing. I usually shoot scenes with my BF. We have both done shoots with other ppl but you really have to go to L.A. to make good money for shoots. However, all big companies take out taxes, then there is your agent fee and you can wait a long time to get paid sometimes. I just do it to promote my bachelor party company. I would never want to just do porn, you get your money ever day with dancing!

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    I'd rather get paid to dance naked than be forever immortalized on film for what, the same money I could make in one night's work? Porn only seems to make sense if you have the goods and the luck to be a high caliber contract girl, and even so very few have made a lengthy, lucrative career out of it. At least I can always lie about being a stripper, being a rich and famous porn star- well, that's a little more difficult to deny later on in life.




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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalxcarrera View Post
    bit random i know, but are there any dancers who do porn aswell as dancing?
    In this economy it is a great way to do things! You will get more for a porn shoot compared to the average stripper take home. So making it your first choice of income and then filling the dead space with stripping is a good way to go about things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winged Dinghy View Post
    Aren't a lot of porn stars also feature dancers? I've also heard, conversely, of some dancers who do porn just so that they can start getting booked as a feature.
    Yes, but only after a few years of kicking out movies to build their fan base. You can't be a decently paid feature unless you have a following.

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    As far as making more money as a feature, that depends on what the feature is charging. I had one friend who did porn and featured, she charged $500 for a lapdance. Another one I know charges $200 for a lapdance. Some charge as little as $50 though. Unless you are a contract girl with a major company, you can't really expect to get paid much in porn. I know probably at least 6 local girls who dance and do porn. Their scenes might pay around $300 each.
    The money isn't really in the lapdances, its in the paycheck for features.

    The contract girls don't make as much as the independent girls. Contracts are between $50,000-$150,000. Independent girls can make $250,000+. Those quotes are for the top working girls in LA. I don't know who would shoot porn for $300? I would rather just strip! However, feature dance $ is way better for contract girls and it can come quicker than it does for independent girls. Because the contract company spends oodles of cash building your name, you are more well known- faster. An independent girl must work harder and longer to get the same rate that a contract girl gets. Eva Angelina is a perfect example.


    Quote Originally Posted by shameless View Post
    Spearmint Rhino in Melbourne had Jesse Jane as a feature recently and not only did she get a couple of grand in stage tips, a dance was auctioned off and two guys paid $1300 EACH for the pleasure!
    If you only knew how much that club had to spend just to get her there! *hint* the figures above couldn't hold a candle to the amount!

    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Does doing an amateur shoot for this Polish guy count? It was me and my bf, and we made $500 a piece.
    Umm, nope!

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    As a total side note here, I'm pretty sure the incubation period for HIV is about six months. So even if someone has been tested recently, they could still be carrying HIV/AIDS. Obviously, sex can't always be 100% safe...but it's still something to keep in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakita Kash View Post
    The money isn't really in the lapdances, its in the paycheck for features.
    You're right, I just re-read that and I should have clarified better. The price a person charges for lapdances can certainly make a difference in the total earnings though, but it's not always the larger chunk that comes from the club directly to feature.

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    The contract girls don't make as much as the independent girls. Contracts are between $50,000-$150,000. Independent girls can make $250,000+. Those quotes are for the top working girls in LA. I don't know who would shoot porn for $300? I would rather just strip! However, feature dance $ is way better for contract girls and it can come quicker than it does for independent girls. Because the contract company spends oodles of cash building your name, you are more well known- faster. An independent girl must work harder and longer to get the same rate that a contract girl gets. Eva Angelina is a perfect example.
    I think our definition of "indepedent" is the same, meaning they aren't contracted by an agent/agency/company... however I know far more SMALL independent actors/actresses than actresses or actors who have made it large as an independent in order to call for higher prices. These are the types that are on the bottom of the food chain when it comes to getting paid or booked for feature dancing... they don't have the "name" yet. Obviously someone starting out isn't going to be at the top of the food chain and isn't going to make what a top star can make featuring. I believe you're thinking the exact opposite though with many of the actors/actresses who have "made it" and are now independent but can request a higher fee. There's two sides to every coin, we just know different people. You are saying the same thing in the end though when you said "An independent girl must work harder and longer to get the same rate that a contract girl gets".

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    I don't know who would shoot porn for $300? I would rather just strip!
    I agree! However, there are plenty of people who take the money where they can get it... and I could easily rattle off a list of actresses getting paid that - with guys who are lucky if they get paid! How much someone is getting paid has a lot to do with what the company can afford, and what area you are working in. L.A. rates are FAR different than rates for small local porn production companies in many cities.

    Personally, the economy has gone down so far that people are taking a lot of work that they wouldn't have in the past just to get paid! Modeling rates have gone down too. I've straight out turned down work because what the
    companies can get away paying these days is ridiculously low. New models seem too eager to get naked for free for a group of no-body photographers and it drives down business for everyone else. People around my area think that nude modeling rates should be $100/hr if they even have to pay.... and they think it's okay to pay that on group photography shoots too. It's all about supply and demand. If too many people are willing to do something for less money, then the earnings go down for everyone.

    Looking at the recent SW average nightly earnings poll at http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=130345
    28.57% of the people on here are earning less than $150 for a shift at work... and I would venture to say that there is probably some portion of them who might consider porn because it's faster and would nearly double their earnings from $150 to $300 for a day. Things are what they are, whether others agree with it or not.
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    ^^^ Where is the information about her dancing? I don't see anything about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    ^^^ Where is the information about her dancing? I don't see anything about that.
    if you press the blog link it has information in there, i used to work with her in lincoln and leeds x

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    *raises her hand* I've done both. I danced for a few years, found my exhibitionist streak and took it farther. Of course I have since left the dying film industry and returned to my home on the stage, but I still openly tell my customers about my films, and have even been recognised on more than one occasion. (unfortunately it's usually by frat boys with about $9 to their name *grr*.) Until my BA I used to keep a couple of my old 8x10's in my locker for fans who would come in, or for regulars.

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    I do porn and dance a few shifts a month as well. Porn actually pays quite well, the standard is 1,000 for a b/g scene and 700 for g/g to start. You'll have busy months and dead months... And like many previous strippers I'm a workaholic and a hustler... So I dance the good nights locally

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    I do both. Ive been dancing since 04 and started porn in 07....me dancing locally seems to be out of the question now that i have been on a dvd that you can buy in stores... people sometimes notice me in the clubs i have worked at and management knows ive done porn and it seems to to have a negative affect. from girls that already know but make up dumb stuff about me doing stuff that i know i dont do, or management literally making up reasons why they are firing me. Over my years of dancing i have always followed rules and a pretty clean dancer compared to those who are not lol but hey i still work and thats all that matters

    if i do make the trip to california per scene ive made between 900-1100 but being in the midwest it isn't much porn wise but with my camming, phonesex and filiming i do on my own it all works out
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    I know a girl and her girlfriend who both had porn contracts in the early 90's, did Penthouse and some other mags including a Penthouse cover, and then ended up as a house dancer at Mitchell Bros. She won a couple of AVN's.
    She did 77 movies in just a few years.

    I think it pretty much had to do with the fact that Michael Ninn met her, liked her, and she was in a few movies that became classics.

    If you can do Penthouse, then get a movie contract, and win some AVN's, you are well on your way to fortune and fame. That's pretty much how Jenna Jameson did it as well.
    Working with major director/producers such as Andrew Blake and Micheal Ninn can make you.

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