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    Quote Originally Posted by alenadowns View Post
    In Canada, there is waaaay more than $100 in a week on expenses....a regular stage girl (remember girls are paid for stage in Western Canada) pays between $100-500 for a costume...a minimum of 5 is required. Posters and promotional items are required for stage (although tips are received for promo).

    Floor time is manditory over an above your shows. So essentially, a girl can be in the club from noon to 8pm for shows then till 2am on the floor plus shows. Much longer shifts than most of you. Here you also pay out 15% of your gross pay to the agent for commission, 3% to Socan to use music, 1% to club for pop & coffee, if you were late for a show...$100 fine, if you missed it...$200 fine!

    Payout on dances are different here too....$30 a dance...$16 to the club...$1-2 to the doorman in the VIP. So a girl makes $12-13 a dance!

    It all adds up as expenses.

    Expenses are not just work things...it really is everything you do or use for your physical appearance or in effort to do you job. Tanning, supplements, eating out, gas, shoes, costumes, hotels (here you are in a different bar each week, possible a different city), makeup, gym memberships, baby wipes......even your tampons!!!

    Since I stopped dancing I have really noticed everything I did for my job. It really was consuming...and expensive! So the great money (what you make) is not the decent money (what you keep at the end of the week) we think it is!
    I see what you're saying.... but things like tampons or a gym membership i'd have regardless of dancing.
    I know it varies from person to person, but if my weekly expenses outweighed the money I'm making I'd stop dancing.
    I don't buy outfits and shoes every week.. only like once a month(if even) so I feel like I'm making a pretty decent profit stripping. and when I try to figure out my average hourly wage I just count the money I came home with that night.. I dont consider the money I tipped out(for vip.. dances.. staff)

    I got into stripping with the intention of only staying in the business for 1-2 years so I can make the money I need to be comfortable while attending school(since the schedule is so flexible). I mentioned this sometime ago here on SW and some of the girls thought I was full of it for some reason..... but honestly I have no problems quitting soon. The money is good but the business can be poisonous... I lie to the people around me about what I do... I have to deal with the stereotypes that go along with being a stripper... My body might change, I might become injured soon and not be able to dance anymore.. but with a degree I can get a job that I can really rely on. I guess for me it's all about stability and security.

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    um, you can be 'comfortable' while attending school with numerous other jobs that aren't stripping. you can also just...get high enough grades to receive scholarship money/grants, which will keep you plenty 'comfortable' and never have to be paid back *and* mean you don't have to work at all while in school except on the classwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    The simple fact is, you can't strip forever. You have to find another job, eventually. So don't wait until you are 38, should have left the club 5 years ago, and have zero marketable skills. When you apply for a new job, you can't even say what you did for the last 20yrs you were stripping, so its hard to get hired. You'll find that most (not all) of the oldest dancers can't do anything else and are stuck - but not making nearly as much as when it was a great paying job. Sure, when you are 20-something, its hard to find a better paying job. But if you don't look to the future, someday you could be the older dancer who can't get out and doesn't have any options.
    Exactly.

    Right now, I make very good money, and 90% of the nights I work, I have a great time with it. If I had to work 4-5 nights a week, I think I'd want to shoot my fucking brains out. And I'm only 20 years old! I can't even imagine working that much over YEARS...which many of the women on SW have. So even if I could strip until I turned 60, I'd probably be making $5 a night because I'd be so worn out and sick of the job.

    I know of very, very few women who have made enough money (and invested it) to be able to make a career out of stripping. And trust me, I respect the HELL out of these women. (I believe Britneyireland and Melonie can be commended for this, among others I'm sure). But this is very rare.

    And anyway, everyone gets old. I know some 40 year old women who look incredible, but these are definitely the exception to the rule. Not many people would be willing to bet their careers on looking good for that long.

    Stripping is an amazing short-term solution for me. While I'm in school, I can save up a ton of money with very little time invested. But I'm quickly growing out of it. It fucks with my relationships, my sleep schedule...everything. My patience for the job, I imagine, will only last for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veronicachick View Post
    I got into stripping with the intention of only staying in the business for 1-2 years so I can make the money I need to be comfortable while attending school... but with a degree I can get a job that I can really rely on. I guess for me it's all about stability and security.
    You're not the only one. I know/have known a number of dancers who've financed their studies by dancing. Its probably the quickest way of getting a 'return' from dancing in that you qualify with the minimum of debt.

    And having helped one dancer with her studies for nearly four years now, I know the sheer physical effort it takes to both dance and study.

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I know of very, very few women who have made enough money (and invested it) to be able to make a career out of stripping.
    I don't know if it's still possible in the current economic climate, but the UK has a significant history of (say) Brazilian girls coming over and dancing. They invest their earnings in property back in Brazil (where property prices are cheaper) and retire after 10 years owning one or more apartments - which gives them a rental income for life.

    I've heard that Brazilian apartments were about £40K - £50K, which makes paying off two mortgages over 10 years achievable.

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    ^ Interesting. Random, but interesting.

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    Its funny that you should make that random comment about Brazil. I have worked in several other jobs than dancing over the years (yes i am back to doing it again because the money is better and more consistent) one of which was real estate. I met several Brazilian dancers who were doing just this and were able to retire and move home in LESS than 10 years. It is something i have thought of doing myself. Something to consider though is that Brazil is NOT the US. There are different kinds of laws and economic structure than here. To assume this is a GREAT move is an uneducated assumption. As much as i would like to buy property and/or do business with brazil I dont know enough about that country to say that its a guarenteed sound decision to make.

    But going back to the specific topic, having said this, I would have to say that i largely agree with your original arguement - although there is major flaws in your thinking. Dancing CAN be very good for SOME at times. I have been a top earner in my career for extended periods of time (even during this economic crisis) as i know how to move in and out of the business intelligently. NOT all girls know how to do this and come out ahead. All kinds of unknown factors can get thrown into the mix or situations that come up making it easy or harder for you to make money. Some can survive this and some cant. I personally just get tired of dealiing with it. Switching clubs has been something i have learned to deal with as most clubs go through changes that effect my ability to make money. Without reiterating what has already been posted i will name a few things.
    1. Too many girls- maybe a lot of whom lack the skills to work well with other girls or even with customers. I have seen a gang of new hire girls bring a club down to a horrible level fast.
    2. New Management - New owners or management will also destroy a club. No matter how much they gas you up to believe that they are the guys for the job, usually they dont do it as well as the old owner who got the place going to begin with.
    3. Hang-out customers. Aka- guys who "hang-out" in the club are about 50% or the makeup of the modern strip club. Some are pimps, plastic surgeons, dope-boys, plain losers, woman haters, locals. These guys fill the club up making it look "busy" but spend nothing. They do waste our time and they are haters that give us hell. A full club doesnt mean money to us- it means money to the owners, who in recent times are more concerned with selling a $10 beer than weeding out the shitty customers.
    4. Down times- when i am sick i dont get paid, and i am losing valuable work days. When my mom comes to visit i dont work as i cant handle juggling both things mentally. such is the case with soooo many other things. I need my alone space while dancing and people dont get this. I find myself being a bitch to be able to have it. Bad days at work mean more days at work.
    5. Expenses - OH there are so many than you can imagine. You should see my receipt from Sephora, the spa, and the tanning salon. Not to mention all the detoxifying vitamins and treatments i have to buy to keep my body up to par while working in a BAR everyday.
    6. (this will be my final) GUYS- men treat you like garbage when you are a dancer. They dont know how to think about it properly and they treat you exactly as such. The ONLY guys I have been able to date and be close to for extended periods of time were other entertainers- and ones who make a good living at that. These kinds of guys are not strippers though. Oftentimes they DO fuck other girls because they assume you are doing the same. Eventually they may meet a model type girl who they feel more comfortable with cus she isnt getting naked for other guys everynite. Guess where that leaves you. And believe me- guys LOVE to use the fact that your a stripper to get out of the relationship easily. IT HURTS AND SUCKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    Something to consider though is that Brazil is NOT the US.
    Fair point - I only know they brought property. The wisdom I can make no judgment on.

    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    1. Too many girls...2. New Management
    The two unfortunately often go together. There's a tendency for new managers to assume that they can increase profits by putting more girls on and raking in more shift fees. In consequence, the girls have to hustle harder because the cake is being cut thinner. End result is it drives customers out of the club because they come for a relaxing evening and get hustled to death. So putting on more girls does not equal more profit.

    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    3. Hang-out customers.
    I might fall vaguely into this category. I've long been friendly with several dancers. If they want a lift home, I'll come into the club towards the end of their shift (their request). I'll hang at the back, buy them a drink and dispense a bit of sympathy if its been a shitty shift.

    Most of the other dancers know me and know I'm not interested in buying dances. Generally they're happy to come over, scrounge a drink and have a few minutes of normal conversation before getting back to hustling.

    If they don't know me and do start to ask for a dance, I'll tactfully let them know I'm there to pick up 'X' so they don't waste their time on me.

    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    4. Down times- when i am sick i dont get paid. 5. Expenses - OH there are so many than you can imagine.
    Both a bummer...and I know looking good doesn't come cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    6. GUYS- men treat you like garbage when you are a dancer.
    Not I. If I ever meet you at work, I will treat you no differently from any other woman I know. But I know what you mean - there always seems to be a high percentage of fuck-wits in strip clubs. Two reasons spring to mind.

    (a) In order to get an erotic charge out of watching you they have to believe you are the stereotypical stripper: getting all hot and horny dancing for them, etc. So they treat you the way they feel their fantasy figure wants to be treated - which is a long way from the way you should be treated.

    (b) Psychological compensation - they realize they're only getting your company because they're paying for it, so they try and compensate by treating you as an inferior.

    Thus endeth the gospel according to Phil......

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    Alot of girls can't or won't work often enough to make the kind of money you are speaking of.

    There are a lot of expenses involved (outfits, travel expenses, makeup, gym memberships, plastic surgery, etc.).

    No benefits, so any health insurance for yourself and family must come from your paycheck.

    Psychological impact can be from none (a rare few), to horrible, depending on the girl.

    Relationships can be tumultuous and damaging as well.

    Alcohol and drug use can do damage to the body and mind, if you turn to it for aid.

    There's not much emotional support for dancers. It can be an unhappy and sometimes miserable place to be. The environment can be very competitive and lonely. It's generally not very social.

    The money can be good, but you could be giving up family ties, acceptance, social outlets, friends, a fulfilling career, etc. Add to that that a lot of girls don't work enough to save their money, or end up blowing the excess on boyfriends, lifestyle, and/or drugs, because it makes life more tolerable. Doctors? I suppose alot of them have all these things. So, the years in study pays off for them. Some of them have it all (according to what the American Dream defines, I suppose): money, family, friends, acceptance, a healthy mind and lifestyle. I think with dancing, there are things you have to give up in order to live the life, for most.

    There are too many ups-and-downs, not a whole lot of stability. Who can you trust? And you can't trust that the money will be there tomorrow just because it was today. Different girls all the time, and you never know what state of mind they are in, what drugs they are on, or what they might do. Same with the customers, usually the managers, and certainly the bar employees. The environment is always risky and chaotic.

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    I retired with no job to go to. But I feel that it was in my personal best interest to do so.

    There is no money to really make like I used too.

    The scene is too old for me now.

    I get bored easily and want new scenery.

    There are many other things to do.

    And not every dancer assumes there isnt another job that pays more.


    I honestly can say the only thing I miss is performing on stage. I got a kick out of that. The rest = boorrringgggg!!!! lol. That is no offense to custies either I just happen to be a gerat performer and not great hustler.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post

    Not I. If I ever meet you at work, I will treat you no differently from any other woman I know. But I know what you mean - there always seems to be a high percentage of fuck-wits in strip clubs. Two reasons spring to mind.

    (a) In order to get an erotic charge out of watching you they have to believe you are the stereotypical stripper: getting all hot and horny dancing for them, etc. So they treat you the way they feel their fantasy figure wants to be treated - which is a long way from the way you should be treated.

    (b) Psychological compensation - they realize they're only getting your company because they're paying for it, so they try and compensate by treating you as an inferior.

    Thus endeth the gospel according to Phil......

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    One thing I've learned is that there is no way to define every reason why a person might be acting. There are some that are common, I'm sure. But every person is an individual, every situation is different, and the reasons are so detailed and exact that every person must find them for themselves. There is no defining for another what they are experiencing or why.

    It's a good starting point to think about for someone who wants to figure themselves or others out, but it's just a drop in the bucket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixierocksonthepole View Post
    I retired with no job to go to. But I feel that it was in my personal best interest to do so.

    There is no money to really make like I used too.

    The scene is too old for me now.

    I get bored easily and want new scenery.

    There are many other things to do.

    And not every dancer assumes there isnt another job that pays more.


    I honestly can say the only thing I miss is performing on stage. I got a kick out of that. The rest = boorrringgggg!!!! lol. That is no offense to custies either I just happen to be a gerat performer and not great hustler.
    I can relate. I had fun dancing on-stage.

    I had fun sometimes dancing for guys too, though.

    It got boring. Very boring. But I didn't mind it, the things that turned it bad were my relationships.

    I can keep it simple. Simple was ok with me, it was the damages handed to me from others that made it more complicated and therefore sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    The simple fact is, you can't strip forever. You have to find another job, eventually. So don't wait until you are 38, should have left the club 5 years ago, and have zero marketable skills. When you apply for a new job, you can't even say what you did for the last 20yrs you were stripping, so its hard to get hired. You'll find that most (not all) of the oldest dancers can't do anything else and are stuck - but not making nearly as much as when it was a great paying job. Sure, when you are 20-something, its hard to find a better paying job. But if you don't look to the future, someday you could be the older dancer who can't get out and doesn't have any options.
    Completely on the mark. When I first started dancing I worked with two kinds of "older" dancers. The first group were those who had other jobs while dancing. One was a teacher, one was a nurse and another was a lawyer. They were doing it part time on weekends for extra money. The second group of older dancers were those stuck at being dancers. There was a big difference with the attitude of these two groups. The others were often desperate, and often resorted to other things (drugs, hooking etc). One of them was actually living at the club (the owner felt sorry for her). Not all are like this, but many saw their money vanishing so their options were limited. I vowed not to be like this group. I felt sorry for a few of these women. They had no other skills so what could they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    um, you can be 'comfortable' while attending school with numerous other jobs that aren't stripping. you can also just...get high enough grades to receive scholarship money/grants, which will keep you plenty 'comfortable' and never have to be paid back *and* mean you don't have to work at all while in school except on the classwork.
    I've worked a regular job while in school my freshmen year and it definitely was not "comfortable." I have a full scholarship to my university.. along with grants from fafsa but I cannot live off just that. Food/rent/w.e else I need requires a job...
    Before stripping, I worked around 20-30 hours a week at my regular job while attending school full time... It's doable but it wasn't comfortable. and I was making like.. somewhere around 300-400 dollars every 2 weeks.

    Now that I strip, I can(not always because of the terrible economy) make that in one night. So I have ALOT more time to focus on my studies.. I dont have to rush to work after class only to get off at 11pm to work on hw. I really appreciate the flexbile schedule that stripping gives me.. because one week I may be swamped with hw so I have the choice to skip work.. but maybe the next week I have free time so I can work more... and I am able to get the money I need. I'm even taking on more credits now because I have more free time.

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    One thing I've learned is that there is no way to define every reason why a person might be acting. There are some that are common, I'm sure. But every person is an individual, every situation is different, and the reasons are so detailed and exact that every person must find them for themselves. There is no defining for another what they are experiencing or why.
    Oh sure: every environment is very complex - perhaps even too complex to fully understand. So the way we (subconsciously) deal with it is to have a number of mental stereotypes that we can pigeonhole people into.

    When we first get into a situation the stereotypes we use to categorize the situation are few and relatively simple. As we get to understand the situation better we might mentally use a greater number of more complex stereotypes to categorize people.

    But whether we use just one or two stereotypes or dozens to bring a degree of 'mental ordering' to a complex situation, our understanding is based on subconsciously stereotyping people.

    Which comes back to Nina888's original point - why do a large percentage of her customers treat her badly? And one possible answer is that those customers have an erroneous stereotype of Nina's likes and dislikes. They treat her according to that erroneous stereotype and accordingly give offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erotictonic View Post
    A lot of girls can't or won't work often enough to make the kind of money you are speaking of.........Psychological impact can be from none (a rare few), to horrible, depending on the girl.
    Yeah, the psychological impact can be quite worrying. I recently bumped into one dancer who retired about 6 months ago and we got to chatting. She said she's worried she'll never be able to break the habit of going up to a guy in a normal bar (who has no idea of how she used to earn a living) and trying to work out how to part him from his money as soon as possible.

    Similarly, a lot of dancers work hard to earn money for several months, bank a lot, then burn out and have to take a month off work - eating through their savings in the process. Then they go back to work, put money away again and burn out again. That's a vicious cycle I've seem a lot over the years.

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    The money can be good, but you could be giving up family ties, acceptance, social outlets, friends, a fulfilling career, etc.
    There's a lot of truth in this. A lot of dancers seem to live a lie (if I may call it that) because society is so judgmental about stripping. So they have one small circle of friends who know what they do, and a larger circle of friends they have to keep secrets from. I can't imagine that's easy or comfortable to do.

    In one case I'm one of the few male friends one dancer has, because she's learned from bitter experience she can't trust 99.9% of guys once they find out she's a dancer. And that's sad, because she's a really lovely person when you get to know her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    In one case I'm one of the few male friends one dancer has, because she's learned from bitter experience she can't trust 99.9% of guys once they find out she's a dancer. And that's sad, because she's a really lovely person when you get to know her.

    Phil.
    I have nondancer friends like this. They stereotype/ judge all guys by the actions of the guys that are trying to pick them up at parties, bars, nightclubs, etc.. With the exception of a cigar lounge, I don't go to bars, nightclubs, or anything similar if I am not meeting people I know there. And I never have the intention of picking a woman up.

    IMO the easiest solution is to quit living that lifestyle, or recognize it for what it is.
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    There are a couple of reasons it could be that they thought dancing would be easy or they would make more.
    It could be they are intimidated by social implications or perhaps their BF's don't want them to dance anymore.

    I feel sorry for girls who quit in their prime and still want to make money.

    One reason some people choose the lifestyle is they see social norms and mores to be mostly silly opinions and not written in stone. Personally I find punching a clock to be abnormal.




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    I've worked a regular job while in school my freshmen year and it definitely was not "comfortable." I have a full scholarship to my university.. along with grants from fafsa but I cannot live off just that. Food/rent/w.e else I need requires a job...
    Before stripping, I worked around 20-30 hours a week at my regular job while attending school full time... It's doable but it wasn't comfortable. and I was making like.. somewhere around 300-400 dollars every 2 weeks.

    Now that I strip, I can(not always because of the terrible economy) make that in one night. So I have ALOT more time to focus on my studies.. I dont have to rush to work after class only to get off at 11pm to work on hw. I really appreciate the flexbile schedule that stripping gives me.. because one week I may be swamped with hw so I have the choice to skip work.. but maybe the next week I have free time so I can work more... and I am able to get the money I need. I'm even taking on more credits now because I have more free time.
    there are grants available to cover expenses above tuition (which isn't full scholarship). if you aren't getting enough money to pay rent as well, then you aren't on a full scholarship. as well, there are other jobs where you can make 500-1k per month working very little or the same amount as stripping (guesstimating you work 1 day per week, 2-4 times per month). it hardly matters, but you don't even sound like you have 2, 3, 5k per month in 'bills' to even pay in the first place, and if so, you really could have been sitting around collecting grant money and not even working *any* job.

    you also don't even have to pay rent in many cities if you are a college student with excellent grades and a completely full ride to $university.

    stripping is a choice, and it should not be presented as the only possible way to live 'comfortably' while attending college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    There are a couple of reasons it could be that they thought dancing would be easy or they would make more.
    It could be they are intimidated by social implications or perhaps their BF's don't want them to dance anymore.

    I feel sorry for girls who quit in their prime and still want to make money.

    One reason some people choose the lifestyle is they see social norms and mores to be mostly silly opinions and not written in stone. Personally I find punching a clock to be abnormal.
    Stripping is about as subversive as punching a clock (since you are catering to an ancient and well-established set of social mores, just a different set, but no less strict and unforgiving of line-steppers). Stripping doesn't involve subverting any social norms, since it directly intersects with them to function. You need the clock-punchers to even practice naked dancing, and that means the naked dancing is not subversive, but is symbiotic and part and parcel of regular old societal normalcy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    there are grants available to cover expenses above tuition (which isn't full scholarship). if you aren't getting enough money to pay rent as well, then you aren't on a full scholarship. as well, there are other jobs where you can make 500-1k per month working very little or the same amount as stripping (guesstimating you work 1 day per week, 2-4 times per month). it hardly matters, but you don't even sound like you have 2, 3, 5k per month in 'bills' to even pay in the first place, and if so, you really could have been sitting around collecting grant money and not even working *any* job.

    you also don't even have to pay rent in many cities if you are a college student with excellent grades and a completely full ride to $university.

    stripping is a choice, and it should not be presented as the only possible way to live 'comfortably' while attending college.
    Why judge her for her choices? She told you her reasoning, and she's entitled to that reasoning, even if you yourself do not agree with it. Just because it doesn't pertain to your personal situation that doesn't mean you should pretend that you can't possibly understand it at all. That kind of narrow minded, ignorant attitude only makes you look stupid.

    There are many ways to pay for college, and yes, stripping is one of them, even if you don't personally find it acceptable. I served in the military to pay for mine, I'm sure you think I'm a fool and I should have just spent the time sitting on my ass instead, but that doesn't suit me. I don't, however, feel the need to judge people who do take grants, or strip to get through school, because they didn't choose the same path as I did.

    Also, I know many people who used grants to get through school and not one of them lived comfortably by my definition of the word. Yours may be different than mine.
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    I think this is a good thread--but try to make sure it stays on track. Go back and read the OP if you need a refresher about the topic this thread focuses on. It sounds like it's starting to get a bit too personal up in herrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina888 View Post
    6. (this will be my final) GUYS- men treat you like garbage when you are a dancer. They dont know how to think about it properly and they treat you exactly as such. The ONLY guys I have been able to date and be close to for extended periods of time were other entertainers- and ones who make a good living at that. These kinds of guys are not strippers though. Oftentimes they DO fuck other girls because they assume you are doing the same. Eventually they may meet a model type girl who they feel more comfortable with cus she isnt getting naked for other guys everynite. Guess where that leaves you. And believe me- guys LOVE to use the fact that your a stripper to get out of the relationship easily. IT HURTS AND SUCKS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    Not I. If I ever meet you at work, I will treat you no differently from any other woman I know. But I know what you mean - there always seems to be a high percentage of fuck-wits in strip clubs. Two reasons spring to mind.

    (a) In order to get an erotic charge out of watching you they have to believe you are the stereotypical stripper: getting all hot and horny dancing for them, etc. So they treat you the way they feel their fantasy figure wants to be treated - which is a long way from the way you should be treated.

    (b) Psychological compensation - they realize they're only getting your company because they're paying for it, so they try and compensate by treating you as an inferior.

    Thus endeth the gospel according to Phil......

    Phil.

    She's talking about the guys she's dating, not customers.

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    43,danced for 15 years.I am just LOST right now.

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    ^ Damn, girl! I think most people subscribed to this thread would love to hear about your experience. Feel free to elaborate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    My feet are permanently injured due to the extreme high heels and being on my feet 6-8 hours a night.

    Flip flops= not sexy
    and I've seen enough clubs in the daylight that I would be too grossed out to walk barefoot through a club. Eewwwww! I know I'd get a staph infection of something.

    Just like pro athletes retire fairly young due to the physical and emotional demands on them, so is the case with strippers.
    Off topic: One of the girls at my work wears flip/flops while hustling lap dances. She does well, but will use her heels for stage work

    It isn't just about keeping your look up, but energy level as well. Also, as you get older, injuries take longer to heal, hence more time off= no $$$.
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