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    Well, I did it. Although I promised myself long ago that I would never spend my hard-earned money on a VIP, be satisfied with a multitude of LDs, I pulled the trigger last week.

    I visited an area club that I've never been to, got a dinner, had several LDs as usual, and as I was leaving I told myself "just one last $20 dance". The dancer was very good during the LD, but not significantly any more so than other dancers that gave me LDs earlier in the evening.

    During the middle of the second dance, she started to telling me things that by the end of the second dance when she popped the question about a VIP, I was ready. After a few more comments from her, I happily agreed to a 1/2 hr $325 VIP experience.

    The VIP with her was excellent. I wont bore you with details, but I did enjoy myself.

    Do you guys ever get buyer's remorse after a VIP? I never thought that I could spend $180 (which is the 1/2-hr rate at the club that I usually go to), and there I was spending almost twice as much. It is not as if it was not worth it, but holy cow, it takes me long time at work to make that kind of money.

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    Yes, I have. I have also regretted not getting one to begin with on a few occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    Well, I did it. Although I promised myself long ago that I would never spend my hard-earned money on a VIP, be satisfied with a multitude of LDs, I pulled the trigger last week.

    I visited an area club that I've never been to, got a dinner, had several LDs as usual, and as I was leaving I told myself "just one last $20 dance". The dancer was very good during the LD, but not significantly any more so than other dancers that gave me LDs earlier in the evening.

    During the middle of the second dance, she started to telling me things that by the end of the second dance when she popped the question about a VIP, I was ready. After a few more comments from her, I happily agreed to a 1/2 hr $325 VIP experience.

    The VIP with her was excellent. I wont bore you with details, but I did enjoy myself.

    Do you guys ever get buyer's remorse after a VIP? I never thought that I could spend $180 (which is the 1/2-hr rate at the club that I usually go to), and there I was spending almost twice as much. It is not as if it was not worth it, but holy cow, it takes me long time at work to make that kind of money.
    We are opposites. I live for VIP's. If some a dancer tries to give me a LD I stop her, and take her straight to VIP. The only reason I regret it is because I never stay within my budget. One of the girls I liked always changes clubs, and there is always a nice looking new girl, and I just have to try her out before I go home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    I happily agreed to a 1/2 hr $325 VIP experience.
    For that much money I hope that you got extras.
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    i quickly realized that i enjoyed the privacy of a vip room more than the loud open room lap dance. I like to touch (respectively) and i hating screaming for someone to here me.

    if you go into a club with say 300.00 as a bankroll and ld s or 20.00 that will get you appox 10 dances at an average of 3 minutes and the rest for drinks and tips. Thats 30minutes of dancing. granted you can spread that out over a couple of hours if you like, or you can find a dancer test her out on the floor 20.00 then take her to a half hour vip average 200.00 and spend maybe a total hour in the club. I find that the 30 minutes with one dancer is better for me than to hi---dance--bye of 5-6 dancers. I am one of those fools that like to chat more than dance and the vip is more plausible for me.

    When i go i usually spend 3 hours in the club and bring enough for two vips and try to keep the girl for the entire time.....after the first vip she normally goes back and freshens up then comes back to the table and we tip other girls at the stage if she wants, drink, and bullchit, before i take her for one more vip.....my entire time usually runs about 3 hours and that is perfect for me. Sometimes she doesnt want to stick around for awhile before going back up---but that is seldom most will stay knowing they will get another vip. Normally runs about 500.00

    to each his own and of course its all at what makes you happy.

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    I've never had buyers remorse after a VIP and I will tell you that my experiences have ranged from full service sex to simply cuddling. No buyers remorse because I always make sure I know what I am going to get before I go in.

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    What I don't like about LD and VIP is the pimp gets half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    What I don't like about LD and VIP is the pimp gets half.
    What on earth are you talking about?
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    He might mean the club or the bouncer. In many places, the guys used to complain to me because a good chunk of their money going to the club, or being coerced into tipping a waitress or bouncer when they barely did anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeraLynn View Post
    He might mean the club or the bouncer. In many places, the guys used to complain to me because a good chunk of their money going to the club, or being coerced into tipping a waitress or bouncer when they barely did anything.

    I could be wrong....
    If I am going to give my money to a woman, I much prefer it go to that woman and not some part of it to a man hiding behind her.

    I told a very lovely dancer who worked at our party the other night, who had a very good night apparently, who tried to tip me as she left with a handful of bills that appeared to be $20's, that while I appreciated her very sweet gesture she should NEVER give the money she worked for to a man.

    I meant it then... I mean it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    she should NEVER give the money she worked for to a man.

    I meant it then... I mean it now.
    So if we look at this with equality, a man should never give the money he worked for to a woman.

    Sounds like the start of a good equal partnership.
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    What on earth are you talking about?
    In most clubs 1/2 of LD or VIP goes to the owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    Do you guys ever get buyer's remorse after a VIP?...It is not as if it was not worth it, but holy cow, it takes me long time at work to make that kind of money.
    Four certainly were; two were not; one was marginal. I try to get by with the $20 dollar lapdances. If I were still going to clubs, I'd try it again but I know to ask more questions now.

    Only 1 club locally provides 'extended' lapdances in a curtained-off area. "Lapdances", the $20 type, normally are in a curtained off area with video monitoring or recording.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsteve View Post
    Do you guys ever get buyer's remorse after a VIP?
    That is why I don't do private dances; for that kind of money one can get cheated by a high class escort. The biggest money makers for dancers and their managers is private dances; the hustle potential is limitless.

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    I feel buyer's remorse from dance sets and even single lap dances. It usually happens when I'm over eager and don't do my homework well enough to weed out the bad dancers. It seems to be happening more this year than in the past - I really can't find out this supposed "bad economy effect" in the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1 View Post
    I really can't find out this supposed "bad economy effect" in the club.
    You are too EZ; remember it is a business. Bargain hard it isn't personal.

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    The economy is bringing out dancers who are beginners and who are almost forced to do what they don't want. I think it is a bad time for customers and dancers both.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    I think it is a bad time for customers and dancers both.
    I disagree as our goals are mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    Yes, I have. I have also regretted not getting one to begin with on a few occasions.

    ^^^ what minnow said.

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    Most of the clubs I visit are pretty low key and don't really have an expensive 'VIP' option. Usually they have some kind of upsell dance for twice the price of a regular dance. It's a ripoff though, because it's the exact same thing as a regular dance, only in a different room.


    There are several other, more expensive clubs that I never visit which have a champaigne/VIP room which costs around $150 to enter and then still $20 a song after that. My understanding is that this is also a huge ripoff as the dances aren't any different than the regular ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    In most clubs 1/2 of LD or VIP goes to the owners.
    Not in my neck of the woods. Not even close to half. VIP rooms average about $100 to $150 (for an hour) to the club and between $200 and $300 to the girl. Dances are between $20 and $30 with the club getting anywhere from zero to five bucks a dance. Some clubs require an entrance fee to the PD area-usually five bucks.

    No wonder none of the girls I know wanna dance in New Jersey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post

    No wonder none of the girls I know wanna dance in New Jersey...
    Most clubs around the country take at least 1/3 to 1/2 of private dance money if what is posted in pink is true. I know of only one club in New Jersey that lets a dancer keep all private dance money. I have gotten several dances there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Most clubs around the country take at least 1/3 to 1/2 of private dance money if what is posted in pink is true. I know of only one club in New Jersey that lets a dancer keep all private dance money. I have gotten several dances there.
    Honestly I've never really found this to be the case. I haven't been everywhere but I've been to most of the major cities. Fees are fees but I've rarely heard dancers complain about them that much. I put more stock in what I here in person than I do in the locker-room type convo in pink.

    VIP's are pretty much a rip-off for the customer. I cut a deal with my ATF where I pay her a flat rate equal to her one hour VIP rate and we go back to the regular PD area for an hour or so. She doesn't have to count dances and the DL will let her off of her stage shift as long as she doesn't ask all the time. The club doesn't get any part of that money. No champagne hostess to tip either! It's different in every club of course. In this particular club the PD area is very private and actually has fewer cameras and darker lighting than the VIP room...
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    Every NY club I've been to except very few, charge 50% to the dancer+tipouts and other fees. I doubt it has gotten better for the dancer in the last couple of years.

    It's a rip-off for customers because dancer quality has decreased, even as mileage has increased (in places).
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    in my opinion VIP is the only way to go.
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