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    For those smart enough not to watch, Bill O'Reilly is a loud-mouthed boor who goes after anyone for anything, no matter what the reason. I recently came across an audio of one of Bill's radio shows, where he attacks a women who was raped and murdered in New York City. He calls this woman a moron because she and her friend got their car towed away and then condemns her for wearing a mini-skirt and halter top with a bare midriff, as if she was somehow to blame for being raped and murdered. Here is a page with the audio:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608040004

    There is now an online petition going out to Bill O'Reilly's sponsors to get them to halt their sponsorship of his show. If you are as outraged as I am about Bill O'Reilly's comments about a rape/murder victim, please sign the petition below:

    http://thinkprogress.org/stop-oreilly-harassment/

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    I agree that his comments about what this girl was wearing or how drunk she was should have no bearing on the tragedy of what happened to her, it is such a shame to hear the blatant disrespect he has for this poor girl and her family, this kind of attitude only perpetuates more predators in society and perpetuates the double standard for women , what an insensitive jerk, and chauvinist pig.

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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    I know you probably want everyone to go get on his case about this, but I'm not going to. If he's media the more attention we show to this (even negative) the more work he'll get. The only real way to get through to the media about things is to turn it off, not buy it, or not click on it so his employer will switch him out with someone better since his ratings will be low.
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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    The petition goes to his sponsors, not to him or his company. Without sponsors, his show won't be able to go on the air.

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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    He is fading into obscurity in any case. His radio show was canceled a few months ago, and now his TV show is dropping behind Glen Beck.

    Maybe he can do late night talk radio with Art Bell in the twilight of his career.


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    Not really a fan of his but I do like to watch his show once in a while. I happened to watch when this case was reported. It was not an attack.

    It is moronic to park in a way to get your car towed, to separate yourself from your friend in NYC. I like how they only played a little snippet of the convo so it can be put in the context they want you to believe in.

    I looked up several topics/ issues from the site, and they all have issues with only conservative/ right people. Pretty funny actually.
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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    You do realize that the story you're discussing, and the show where he made those comments, are from three years ago?

    He was already reprimanded, and apologized for it, so I'm not sure why you're petitioning now.

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    oh wow. I fucking hated bill o'reily already, but simply because he was a moron and I decided he was really not worth my time and energy.
    now (prepare yourself for an awesome metaphor) I feel as though every fiber of my being is absolutely pulsating with the intensity of a thousand suns with something so, so much more powerful than hate for this man.
    also, if a man is justified in raping and murdering a woman who wears a miniskirt, it must be justifiable to ass rape and castrate a misinformed, misogynistic, fat-assed, balding, pathetic blowhard who doesn't even know the difference between a falafel and a loofah. (oh yeah, that's right. he also got away with sexual harassment. here is man who respects women, truly a shining representative of the right-wingers) because, obviously, said ass-raper would have been provoked.
    now, I even hate people who listen to him. this info is getting forwarded to my grandma.

    I am so angry that a man like this is even CONSIDERED a journalist and is still on the air that I am almost crying.

    EDIT: I just read that the transcript was from three years ago. I do not care. I hate that man anyway.
    also, this is my new favorite website: http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/
    I have NEVER, EVER hated someone so much. I need to go get drunk now.

    Also, the petition is because he gets his cronies to go harass anyone who he considers a threat to him. The whole "rape-victim" thing is just a cherry on top of the terrible, terrible whipped cream that is bill o'reilly.

    another thing: I think that there is such a thing as respect for the family of a victim of rape/murder/whatever. he should NOT have called her "moronic."
    and finally: he may not have outright said that she deserved it, but simply the fact that he mentioned what she was wearing shows that he believes she was "advertising" something, or, had she been wearing something different, she may have not gotten raped.
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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    ^^He is unable to move on with the social changes. I don't think he meant to come off as rude and calloused, but he comes from an era where women didn't go out at night alone (not the "nice" girls anyway).

    He is more worthy of pity than of hate. His inability to change his mindset is going to be his own undoing.


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    ^^Paris, you are a much more composed individual than I
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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    You do realize that the story you're discussing, and the show where he made those comments, are from three years ago?

    He was already reprimanded, and apologized for it, so I'm not sure why you're petitioning now.
    This wasn't an isolated incident. He's made other racist and sexist remarks. He sends his staff out to harass anyone who criticizes him, even in their own homes. He's sexually harassed one of his assistants. He verbally abuses employees. He's a really disgusting human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glambman View Post
    Not really a fan of his but I do like to watch his show once in a while. I happened to watch when this case was reported. It was not an attack.

    It is moronic to park in a way to get your car towed, to separate yourself from your friend in NYC. I like how they only played a little snippet of the convo so it can be put in the context they want you to believe in.

    I looked up several topics/ issues from the site, and they all have issues with only conservative/ right people. Pretty funny actually.
    Why do you spend so much time at a forum consisting primarily of women when you have such contempt for women, even one who was raped and murdered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Why do you spend so much time at a forum consisting primarily of women when you have such contempt for women, even one who was raped and murdered?
    Where do you get that I have contempt for women?
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    Default Re: Help get hate-monger who attacks rape victim off the air

    Look at the comment you just made about a woman who was raped and murdered.

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    lol it seems people become saints in death.

    Those comments are right, though, but I never said they justify her rape and murder.
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    She IN NO WAY deserved to be raped or murdered. It was a horrible atrocity, and I feel badly for her family.

    However, it IS moronic to walk around alone and drunk in NYC. That's just common sense. To me, it's more of a cautionary tale to other young women.

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    New York City is the safest large city in America. Murders are very rare. It's true that it's always better to avoid any risk can, but being murdered while walking around New York City is not something most people would expect to happen. New York City averages about 1.5 murders a day. That means on any given day, your odds of being murdered in NYC is about 1 in 5 million.

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    A lot of crime are done because of opportunity. When I was younger, a bunch of cars were broken into down our street, but only those cars with unlocked doors. If criminals see you walking down the street and you look 'scared' (looking down, etc.), you will more likely be a victim rather than the person who is more aware of their surroundings, etc.. It's about minimizing risks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dance77 View Post
    I agree that his comments about what this girl was wearing or how drunk she was should have no bearing on the tragedy of what happened to her, it is such a shame to hear the blatant disrespect he has for this poor girl and her family, this kind of attitude only perpetuates more predators in society and perpetuates the double standard for women , what an insensitive jerk, and chauvinist pig.

    Yes... and commentary like this will continue to perpetrate the thinking that - " she deserved it"

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    Not really a fan of his but I do like to watch his show once in a while. I happened to watch when this case was reported. It was not an attack.

    It is moronic to park in a way to get your car towed, to separate yourself from your friend in NYC. I like how they only played a little snippet of the convo so it can be put in the context they want you to believe in.

    I looked up several topics/ issues from the site, and they all have issues with only conservative/ right people. Pretty funny actually.
    Rape is a crime of power, not passion or sexual frustration. It is the want of the damaged male acting out his power play. The young woman that was raped and murdered did not deserve what she got - she was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and came into a mentally ill males cross-hairs. For anyone to make light of something so heinous makes me wonder about their own mental stability.

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    No one said she deserves it. If you listen to the snippet, even his tone does not make light what happened to her. It is more about poor judgment exhibited by the parties. Sometimes, poor judgment will get you killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    For those smart enough not to watch, Bill O'Reilly is a loud-mouthed boor who goes after anyone for anything, no matter what the reason. I recently came across an audio of one of Bill's radio shows, where he attacks a women who was raped and murdered in New York City. He calls this woman a moron because she and her friend got their car towed away and then condemns her for wearing a mini-skirt and halter top with a bare midriff, as if she was somehow to blame for being raped and murdered. Here is a page with the audio:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608040004

    There is now an online petition going out to Bill O'Reilly's sponsors to get them to halt their sponsorship of his show. If you are as outraged as I am about Bill O'Reilly's comments about a rape/murder victim, please sign the petition below:

    http://thinkprogress.org/stop-oreilly-harassment/

    Another pitcher of Kool-Aid ? How can anybody who believes in the First Amendment and FAIRNESS want O'Reilly off the air? Did you actually LISTEN to the audio yourself ? Most of the people who "condemn" him or Rush never bother to watch or listen themselves. Instead they rely on groups like Media Matters which are even more biased than most of their targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    New York City is the safest large city in America. Murders are very rare. It's true that it's always better to avoid any risk can, but being murdered while walking around New York City is not something most people would expect to happen. New York City averages about 1.5 murders a day. That means on any given day, your odds of being murdered in NYC is about 1 in 5 million.
    Are you remotely familiar with the actual facts of this case ? She was underage; dressed for "clubbing"; got drunk; was wandering around drunk at 3 or 4 A.M., got her car towed ( all you have to do is READ the SIGNS ! ), got separated from her friend and fell prey to a vicious criminal. O'Reilly NEVER blamed her for being raped and killed. Her blamed her for being so foolish and irresponsible as to be in such a vulnerable position in the first place. It's a legitimate question what she was doing nightclubbing in NYC in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    New York City is the safest large city in America. Murders are very rare. It's true that it's always better to avoid any risk can, but being murdered while walking around New York City is not something most people would expect to happen. New York City averages about 1.5 murders a day. That means on any given day, your odds of being murdered in NYC is about 1 in 5 million.
    All true but there are things you can do to enhance your chances of being a crime victim. Which the treenager in this horrible case did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Another pitcher of Kool-Aid ? How can anybody who believes in the First amendment and FAIRNESS want O'Reilly off the air? Did you actually LISTEN to the audio yourself ? Most of the people who "condemn" him or Rush never bother to watch or listen themselves. Instead they rely on groups like Media Matters which are even more biased than most of their targets.
    Yes, I listened to the audio and I did find his comments disgusting.

    Wanting O'Reilly off the air has nothing to do with the First Amendment or fairness. There's nothing unfair about a show being taken off the air. Shows get taken off that air all the time. Corporate sponsors spend millions of dollars to keep Bill O'Reilly on the air. They should be informed of what their dollars are paying for, and if they decide they don't want their money being used for that purpose, that's their right.

    The First Amendment only applies to the government. I would opposed the government forcibly taking Bill O'Reilly, or anyone else off the air, but I see nothing wrong with trying to convince sponsors not to spend millions of dollars to keep someone on the air that makes bigoted comments on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Are you remotely familiar with the actual facts of this case ? She was underage; dressed for "clubbing"; got drunk; was wandering around drunk at 3 or 4 A.M., got her car towed - all you have to do is READ the SIGNS !, got separated from her friend and fell prey to a vicious criminal. O'Reilly NEVER blamed her for being raped and killed. Her blamed her for being so foolish and irresponsible as to be in such a vulnerable position in the first place. It's a legitimate question what she was doing nightclubbing in NYC in the first place.
    She just happened to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time (near a predator). This could happen to any woman at any time or any place. The fact is, the most common place for a woman to be raped is in her own home:

    http://www.aardvarc.org/rape/about/statistics.shtml

    As to her being irresponsible, she was only 18. It's pretty widely accepted by most people, that someone who is 18 years old is not mature enough to drink. That's why it's illegal. If the club she went to had obeyed the law, she never would have ended up in that situation.


    Most people do find it offensive referring to a rape/murder victim as "moronic".

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