



I used to work in detroit, that's why I have no tolerance for ghetto guys trying to fuck me over. There are some pretty crappy people there.
Second? I have a sharp tongue that gets me in trouble because I drink, and just spit shit out there..... Then later, I'm like, WTF was I thinking?


Look him right in the eye and tell him you have no idea who he is, you've never heard of him. Hold out your hand and ask to see the colour of his money. If his money isn't papery and green, issued by the US Government, kick him out.
After this though, accept the loss of the $15 and 15 minutes as a cheap price for a lesson well learned. "Pimp Gangsta Wanna-bes" are cheap pricks that try to make up for being weak small dicked pussies with big attitude and bad wardrobe.
~K





If that had happened to me I'd be finding a new club. Especially since the bouncers seem to be as bad as the customer.





is this a bikini club? 5$ is exceptionally low...
I was at a club where it was "on us" to get money for dances and the security (who was actually a cop) wouldnt do shit to help us out. On my last night I had a guy try to stiff me some money and I informed the cop that he was grabbing me the whole time, go figure the cop wouldnt throw him out. I was able to use a little bit of lying though and told the customer that the cop over there would arrest him if he didnt pay me...
Now i work at a club where the security has no problem backing us if hte customers dont pay and its much nicer. I no longer have to threaten customers myself if htey dont pay (i got pretty good at this at the other club...however, its nice to have a burly guy in a suit do it for you so you dont look bad to the other customers). I would suggest going someplace else with bouncers that do their job and dances that have >5$ minimum.
I guess I been lucky always working in club where bouncers always took care of this kind of problems.I agree that you should switch clubs or ask money upfront. It is not loss of $15 or $50 that is aggravating but whole principle of thing. It is just wrong and degrading! Bouncer should be on your side!
I also wonder if you can take quick pic of this guys on cell and post it in dressing room to warn other girls



Its common practice in England if the guy has carried on getting dances and the initial one and has no money on him and no way of paying for the dances, for the doormen to take his phone and keep it until he comes back with the amount owed add in the threat of ringing up wifey and im yet to hear of a case where it hasnt worked x

Damn that sucks. I would have been really upset being treated like a piece of trash like that. UGH! I hate assholes.
I got stiffed for $200 my second day at work. I cried when I went back to my hotel. It really sucks and makes you feel like shit when you do your job and people just take advantage of it...and of course nobody really gives a shit except for the person who got stiffed. The "stiffer" is laughing because he got away with it and it's just setting the tone that it's ok to not pay for your dances because nobody is going to do anything about it anyway. Ugh that pisses me off.





re cashing in: thats awesome! I wish clubs around here would do that!




And the moral of the story is:
ALWAYS TAKE THE CASH UP-FRONT!
Its great you're trying to have an open mind about your customers but what does that have to do with having good business sense? Unlike food service, we shouldn't be giving the customer our "product" (dances/attention) before we hand them a bill. There should have never been the opportunity to "dine-and-dash" with you, so to speak.
You could have just as easily stated: "Oh your buddy wants a dance? That's great! That'll be $15 (they probably should just hand you $20) and we can get started!" If they were to give you flack right then before you even started, you'd know they weren't quality customers and should be left alone.
I trust bouncers as far as I can throw them, so it doesn't surprise me about the response.
I've been dancing around seven years and I have NEVER had this happen to me (being stiffed on dances). Its never occurred to me once to not take cash up- front. I would just as soon walk out of one dance paid in-full before I walked away unpaid for three dances. In a cash-based job, you're asking to get ripped off if you don't demand payment up-front. There's no record you negotiated any kind of sale, there's no proof you agreed to the terms of the dance or that he agreed to purchase it. The only proof is cash on-hand. I don't trust my customers to NOT stiff me if I give the any reason to. Neither should you.
Last edited by vivianbear; 04-09-2009 at 09:36 AM.
"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."



Thankfully this is the only time something like this has ever happened to me. Really, it's not so much about the $15 but the being cursed out and pushed around.
I have tried asking for money up front for dances, and it just doesn't work. I don't know if it's my town, or what...
It's not the club either because I have worked at two other places in town and it didn't fly there either.
I have never been rude about it, always super nice, but professional and firm at the same time. People just get so insulted! I have never had a good result from asking for the $$ up front.
Funny, cause the club I worked at up in Phoenix was totally different. Most guys would pay me up front without asking, cause I guess that's kind of the norm up there. Which I LOVE! and can't wait to go back up there to work again.
Dancing in Tucson is pretty rough, this town is just dysfunctional and is like the bad problem child of Arizona. I don't know why this place attracts such losers and weirdos, but it does.
No, it's topless. We actually are $5 minimum, but custies really enforce.....well, the minimum. Some girls charge $10 on the floor and get away with it VERY rarely. I have seen custies get in arguments with dancers cause the girl they were just with asked for $10 and the girl they were with before that only charged $5.
I always, always really stress the fact that it is a $5 minimum.....but people are just cheap. Even when I am feeling bold and straight up hint around a tip....guys still just hand me the minimum and are not afraid to be blatant cheap a-holes.
I made a joke the other day to a guy about "why only do the minimum? Many other people choose to wear more pieces of flare!"...ala Office Space where the restaurant manager is grilling Jennifer Aniston about only doing the minimum.
He just looked at me with a blank stare.....




That part of it is just awful, for sure. The arrogance of some men while they hang out in SCs is appalling. It would be so hard for me no to escalate easily in that situation.
Wow. I can't believe it! This is Tuscon, AZ? I wonder if it is a regional thing. I've danced in WA, OR and No/SoCal and its always standard for guys to pay up-front for even the least costing dances. I wonder if your area has just perpetuated the behavior (its not like it could be a solid "rule" to not pay up-front) so much now that custies take advantage of it as the standard. Will the club enforce a pay-first policy if all the dancers band together and insist on it for security purposes?
I'm sorry you're subjected to that as a practise. It just seems like one more awful loop-hole for dancers to be taken advangtage of.![]()
"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."
I'm sorry this happened to you, honey. This is the second story of yours in which the apathy of the bouncers/staff helped make a bad situation worse. I really hope you can find a club that doesn't amount to a pay-cut, with bouncers that actually do their fucking jobs.
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