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    with people losing their jobs and/or trying to save as much money as possible, i can see guys either not going as much to SC's or spending less or not even going anymore.

    has the thought of looking for another line of work crossed your minds yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    with people losing their jobs and/or trying to save as much money as possible, i can see guys either not going as much to SC's or spending less or not even going anymore.

    has the thought of looking for another line of work crossed your minds yet?
    Add to that, also, that a lot of women have lost their jobs and may consider dancing to pay their bills... Thus, increasing the supply of dancers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Add to that, also, that a lot of women have lost their jobs and may consider dancing to pay their bills... Thus, increasing the supply of dancers...
    good point...an increase in dancers and a decrease in clientele/cash cant be a good thing. i know of a dancer who quit because of that reason, but had restaurant management experience to fall back on and got a job in that field.

    it would be interesting to hear what other skills/trade your girls posses as your plan b. or is dancing the only job you've had?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    ...it would be interesting to hear what other skills/trade your girls posses as your plan b. or is dancing the only job you've had?

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    I'm actually making more money now than I have in years, but even if I weren't, my income would have to decrease drastically before I would get another job.

    If it got so bad that I was only making $80 per shift as a dancer, it would still be better than making $60 per shift as a receptionist. If there were another job that paid as much as dancing, I would still dance because I don't want to work a rigid schedule and take orders from people who are stupider than me.


    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    it would be interesting to hear what other skills/trade your girls posses as your plan b. or is dancing the only job you've had?
    Any girl who has been successful as a dancer has skills that would be invaluable in many other jobs. It's just a matter of finding a potential employer who recognizes that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    Any girl who has been successful as a dancer has skills that would be invaluable in many other jobs. It's just a matter of finding a potential employer who recognizes that fact.
    Do you think the skills you develop as a dancer to charm and flatter the custie would make you a particularly effective sales rep? BTW - I think some sales people are also independent contractors and set their own hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Do you think the skills you develop as a dancer to charm and flatter the custie would make you a particularly effective sales rep? BTW - I think some sales people are also independent contractors and set their own hours.
    ...yesssss jack, the ones who wait at the club door snagging guys like bears snagging salmon in the river fall, would make great walmart greeters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    I'm actually making more money now than I have in years, but even if I weren't, my income would have to decrease drastically before I would get another job.
    what city do you work at? good for you that you're making more money now than before. keep it up! i know here in SoCal many dancers are complaining about making less.

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    Any girl who has been successful as a dancer has skills that would be invaluable in many other jobs. It's just a matter of finding a potential employer who recognizes that fact.
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    Do you think the skills you develop as a dancer to charm and flatter the custie would make you a particularly effective sales rep?
    i think successful dancers would make excellent sales people. my job puts me around lots of salesmen, and i can tell you some girls ive meet at the SC can run circles around these guys...on a side note, dont try to bullshit a good salesman. as one so eloquently put it "you cant bullshit a bullshiter".

    ive worked in retail sales before i became a production/graphic artist. but retail isnt my plan b since it sucks right now and probably wont pay anywhere near what i make now. so im looking for a plan b in case i get laid off...im wondering if male dancers are making any money

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    are you girls ok? something stuck in your eye? ......

    Read this thread ...

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131680

    Scroll down to the 4th post, and you'll get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    i think successful dancers would make excellent sales people. my job puts me around lots of salesmen, and i can tell you some girls ive meet at the SC can run circles around these guys...on a side note, dont try to bullshit a good salesman. as one so eloquently put it "you cant bullshit a bullshiter".
    Actually, professional sales people tend to be the easiest to sell to, as they empathize with the person who is attempting to sell to them. They also tend to be the most vulnerable to "the schmooze". For whatever reason, sales people like being on the side of being sucked up to, instead of being the...um, suckee(?).

    As far as male dancers, if a dancer doesn't mind performing for gay men, he can make a killing in this industry. Gay men are under served in the stripping industry. Usually the choices are limited to the rare strip club in a major metro area or hiring an escort. As gay marriage is becoming more mainstream, gay men (and women, too. Female dancers don't mind dancing for female clients, generally) want a more traditional bachelor party experience to go along with the other elements of the wedding ceremony.

    Female strippers still out earn male strippers, but that is changing. The agency I work for books about 25% more shows for male dancers than female. BUT, the female dancers are earning more money per show. Male dancers are usually hired for the 15 minute strip-o-grams, whereas female dancers are hired in pairs or groups of dancers and are expected to perform for an hour or longer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by verfolgung View Post
    Read this thread ...

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131680

    Scroll down to the 4th post, and you'll get the idea.
    hmm, i ended up back here...weird...

    seriously though, i was just curious to know if dancing wasnt working out for someone then what else they may have to fall back on. the economy is in shambles and lots of people are cutting back on what they may consider "extracurricular" activities (eating out, going to clubs/bars, amusement parks, vacations, etc). hell, theres been layoffs at my job due to clients cutting back on printed items. it certainly got me thinking about my plan b...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    hmm, i ended up back here...weird...

    seriously though, i was just curious to know if dancing wasnt working out for someone then what else they may have to fall back on. the economy is in shambles and lots of people are cutting back on what they may consider "extracurricular" activities (eating out, going to clubs/bars, amusement parks, vacations, etc). hell, theres been layoffs at my job due to clients cutting back on printed items. it certainly got me thinking about my plan b...
    Dude,... if you've talk to dancers at all, you should now that they come from all walks of life and all educational levels. I've met dancers who are college students, grad students, law students, real estate brokers, artists, dancers (of the mainstream type), aerobics instructors, etc... Dancers at upscale SC can make about $150k a year... So the stereotype that only poor and uneducated women who have no skills turn to dancing is bullshit... Any woman can turn to dancing... if they want to make a lot of money and are willing to shed some inhibition...

    So, to answer your questions... they would continue their college or grad school, become full time real estate brokers (assuming they find a job), become waitresses, marry, work in another type of sexually oriented business, or do any of the other hundreds of jobs that women perform today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Do you think the skills you develop as a dancer to charm and flatter the custie would make you a particularly effective sales rep? BTW - I think some sales people are also independent contractors and set their own hours.
    I work in an apartment complex right now, and our current assistant manager was a dancer for about 10 years before she went into property management with no prior education in the field or a degree. She is very good at sales and customer service, etc and I'm quite positive that the major source her expertise in dealing with people/sales must somehow relate to her time spent working in stripclubs. She started dancing when she was 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Do you think the skills you develop as a dancer to charm and flatter the custie would make you a particularly effective sales rep? BTW - I think some sales people are also independent contractors and set their own hours.
    Dancing is sales. You're asking if being a good salesperson makes me a good salesperson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer1980 View Post
    what city do you work at? good for you that you're making more money now than before. keep it up! i know here in SoCal many dancers are complaining about making less.
    I'm in New Orleans, but I've worked in socal off and on for years. Dancers there always complain about not making money, because socal strip clubs suck ass. It's not because of the economy. It's because of the stupid laws and the sketchy owners.
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    I'm making more now than I was 2 years ago. MUCH more. And anyway, I'm a student...so I need not worry 'bout mah career yet. The money I make gets saved. Simple as that.

    And haha Jack--I love that you're recommending 'legitimate' sales jobs to strippers (who are also in sales). Perhaps you merely mean that a movement out of the luxury item/entertainment sales industry would be fruitful. But it's still funny that you'd suggest to sales-women that we get jobs in sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I'm making more now than I was 2 years ago. MUCH more. And anyway, I'm a student...so I need not worry 'bout mah career yet. The money I make gets saved. Simple as that.

    And haha Jack--I love that you're recommending 'legitimate' sales jobs to strippers (who are also in sales). Perhaps you merely mean that a movement out of the luxury item/entertainment sales industry would be fruitful. But it's still funny that you'd suggest to sales-women that we get jobs in sales.
    I'm NOT recommending it... I'm the sex-positive feminist guy, remember? ... This was just my response to the hypothetical question of what dancers could do if dancing, suddenly, wasn't lucrative... (I know it -- an extremely unlikely event...) So,... I was just suggesting that if selling lap dances is not lucrative enough,... dancers could find something else to sell... But, heaven forbid... don't waste those amazing sales skill-sets you've developed as a dancer on a non-sales occupation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    Dancing is sales. You're asking if being a good salesperson makes me a good salesperson.
    Point taken...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I'm NOT recommending it... I'm the sex-positive feminist guy, remember? ... This was just my response to the hypothetical question of what dancers could do if dancing, suddenly, wasn't lucrative... (I know it -- an extremely unlikely event...) So,... I was just suggesting that if selling lap dances is not lucrative enough,... dancers could find something else to sell... But, heaven forbid... don't waste those amazing sales skill-sets you've developed as a dancer on a non-sales occupation...
    Haha I understood what you were trying to say. It just sounded really funny and silly the way you posited it. I HAVE AN IDEA: IF THE ECONOMY SUCKS, GO FROM YOUR JOB IN SALES INTO SALES! Like it's some revolutionary idea.

    But yes: I see what you're saying. Unfortunately, all sales jobs are suffering right now (except, apparently, the sales of video games...according to The New Yorker).

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Unfortunately, all sales jobs are suffering right now (except, apparently, the sales of video games...according to The New Yorker).
    Lawyers have two areas that they consider safe bread-winners in any economy... death and taxes (they should probably add crime and divorce to that list)... So, look for sales jobs in those areas... for example, sale of gravesites, tombstones, caskets, funeral services, etc...

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    ...yesssss jack, the ones who wait at the club door snagging guys like bears snagging salmon in the river fall, would make great walmart greeters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Lawyers have two areas that they consider safe bread-winners in any economy... death and taxes (they should probably add crime and divorce to that list)... So, look for sales jobs in those areas... for example, sale of gravesites, tombstones, caskets, funeral services, etc...
    Oh my god. I love this!! I mean you're probably right...but that's funny as fuck. I'm going to go from stripping to selling caskets. Hilarious.

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    Oh my god. I love this!! I mean you're probably right...but that's funny as fuck. I'm going to go from stripping to selling caskets. Hilarious.
    Sweety,... whatever you're selling... I'm buying...

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    Sweety,... whatever you're selling... I'm buying...

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