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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    Hmm, so you're saying that this "wanna dance" technique actually is productive? In the clubs I frequent the dancers doing it seem desperate and don't take no well. I try to be nice, "no thank you" and giving body language to express my non-interest before they approach. After all, I'm there to have a good time, not fracture anyone's ego. But recently I've been called things like stuck up and asshole which I think is uncalled for...
    That kind of visceral remark makes me think I've hurt their feelings by turning them down.
    LoL, of course it's productive. You are entirely too egotistical, and put way too much value on yourself if you think you're hurting our feelings by saying no thank you. What's most likely happening is they are annoyed that there is someone in the club not buying dances. This is how we earn our living, if guys come in to just drink and watch the game why not go to a sports bar? Of course they're calling you names. You're fucking with their income. And honestly, based on this quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    But they've got no chance of getting any of it if they're over a size 2. haha, Zero is my Hero.
    You do sound stuck up and incredibly full of yourself. We're not stupid you know. We're very good at reading people and I'd say their assesment of you is spot on. And please don't pull the "well you must take offense to that bc you're a bigger girl" bull shit, bc that's not it at all. I am a sz 0, and this doesn't offend me so much as it lets me know exactly what kind of guy you are.

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    Whereas the biggest putdown I get when regecting in the real world is "are you gay?" Which would be patently absurd to say to a man in a strip club so they go for asshole?
    It must be terrible for you, having to turn down "all" these women. Do you have to carry a stick to beat them off you?

    You're in a SC. You're gonna get asked if you wanna dance. If you want to drink your beer in peace without "being forced to turn more women down" go to a reg bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    So when you're at a bar or grocery store and a woman smiles or doesn't avoid eye contact that's a green light to say Hi. It seems too many strippers don't know this rule in reverse. Perhaps they've read the Hustle Hut too much. LOL
    The "rule in reverse" that you speak of does not exist inside the walls of a strip club. Dancers get paid when they sell dances, not when they don't. You won't find too many successful dancers who don't approach guys and solicit dances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    You do sound stuck up and incredibly full of yourself. We're not stupid you know. We're very good at reading people and I'd say their assesment of you is spot on. And please don't pull the "well you must take offense to that bc you're a bigger girl" bull shit, bc that's not it at all. I am a sz 0, and this doesn't offend me so much as it lets me know exactly what kind of guy you are.
    So I'm an asshole and stuck up because I find any woman over a size 4 hideous? And any women over a size 2 in a strip club not worth my time to speak to? (I figure I'm doing them a favor not wasting their time too since there is no chance of a sale. AT the clubs I go to ALL dancer money comes from Lap dances $20 Each) So be it, I'll wear the badge with pride.

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    You're in a SC. You're gonna get asked if you wanna dance. If you want to drink your beer in peace without "being forced to turn more women down" go to a reg bar.
    I don't wanna drink my beer is peace, I want to wait for a zero or double zero in peace. Since I'm not a regular (once a month) I don't know if a girl I'll be interested in will be working, but there is usually 1 or 2 but they are always busy. I also hate fake and or big breasts (yes, I'm a freak show LOL) I only like thin pale brunette's and I make no apologies for me preferences. I know exactly what I want and accept no substitutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I've never had a divorce case or custody fight either, probably because I don't look at you fat, sloppy assholes as people. Because of that, my life is pretty great. When I first started I treated all the customers as valuable human beings and I felt like shit almost all the time because these "valuable human beings" would call me names, talk about fucking children, insult the living hell out of their wives (I hate that!), ask me if my father or brothers raped me, etc., etc., etc. The majority of men are in a strip club are so socially retarded that the closest they can get to being nice is a backhanded compliment.

    You are just wallets to me now, and I am much happier that way. I actually hate that you're on this website, it makes me think that you're incredibly pathetic. You have no real reason to chat on a stripper site, so you're just a pathetic loser.
    Hey I'm not fat or sloppy but apparently I am an asshole because I hate any over size 4 woman.

    But why do you think the men on this site are losers? Are you implying that only losers go to strip clubs? That's as silly as saying all strippers are whores, sure most are, but clearly all the members of this board are exceptions to the rule, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    So I'm an asshole and stuck up because I find any woman over a size 4 hideous? And any women over a size 2 in a strip club not worth my time to speak to? (I figure I'm doing them a favor not wasting their time too since there is no chance of a sale. AT the clubs I go to ALL dancer money comes from Lap dances $20 Each) So be it, I'll wear the badge with pride.
    Then don't be offended when they tell you you're an asshole. If they don't see you spending all you're doing is taking up their time and space.



    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    I don't wanna drink my beer is peace, I want to wait for a zero or double zero in peace. Since I'm not a regular (once a month) I don't know if a girl I'll be interested in will be working, but there is usually 1 or 2 but they are always busy. I also hate fake and or big breasts (yes, I'm a freak show LOL) I only like thin pale brunette's and I make no apologies for me preferences. I know exactly what I want and accept no substitutes.
    Dude, I could care less what your preferances are. What you need to understand is that if you're in a SC strippers are gonna ask you if you want a dance and don't be annoyed by it, and don't act like they should know you're not interested. That's the job. That's what we do to make money. You're not so amazing or special that by turning us down our ego will be shattered and we'll never work again (which seems to be what you think, which I find hilarious).

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    Lol, hang out in the DR and you'll get to know the girls OTC.

    While not all men see it as 'a fantasy', lots of men do *shrugs* With something like a strip club I don't think you can say all people percieve it in 'one way'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    Hey I'm not fat or sloppy but apparently I am an asshole because I hate any over size 4 woman.

    But why do you think the men on this site are losers? Are you implying that only losers go to strip clubs? That's as silly as saying all strippers are whores, sure most are, but clearly all the members of this board are exceptions to the rule, no?
    Mr_Punk? Is that you? Jenny can't be far behind.

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    Any headshrinkers in the house? When does fantasy become reality, reality become obsession, obsession become addiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlams2000 View Post
    Mr_Punk? Is that you? Jenny can't be far behind.
    LOL I miss the poignant posts of both but that is life in the big city

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlams2000 View Post
    Any headshrinkers in the house? When does fantasy become reality, reality become obsession, obsession become addiction?
    I don't think fantasy can ever become reality... Reality is always a disappointment... Just think about all the movie stars and rockstars that reach stardom only to become drug-addicts and hit rockbottom... Many are manic-depressive and some even commit suicide...

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    Was Mr Punk a misogynist too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    Was Mr Punk a misogynist too?
    He wrote the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I don't think fantasy can ever become reality... Reality is always a disappointment... Just think about all the movie stars and rockstars that reach stardom only to become drug-addicts and hit rockbottom... Many are manic-depressive and some even commit suicide...
    Maybe the fantasy turns to delusion? Or the SC customers that considers the SC fantasy to be reality are actually delusional.

    Beer makes me philosophical. I think I've had enough for one evening.

    Speaking of delusional, has Hockey Bobby commented on this whole SC fantasy reality debate or is he busy milking poor defenseless trees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    So I'm an asshole and stuck up because I find any woman over a size 4 hideous?.
    "Hideous?" Not "unattractive" or "not my type" but "Hideous?" And you hate them?


    Yes. Yes, you are an asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetik View Post
    While not all men see it as 'a fantasy', lots of men do *shrugs* With something like a strip club I don't think you can say all people percieve it in 'one way'.
    Very few men see it as a fantasy.

    When I go to the SC, I don't say I'm going for the fantasy, I say I'm going because it's fun. I don't know anyone who says they're going for the fantasy because they don't know that it's a fantasy. The best part of the fun is not knowing it's a fantasy or denying it.

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    Yes! We're looking for the GFE NOT a girlfriend.

    So perhaps the custies looking for a GFE are assholes and the custies looking for a girlfriend are losers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderadama View Post
    Yes! We're looking for the GFE NOT a girlfriend.

    So perhaps the custies looking for a GFE are assholes and the custies looking for a girlfriend are losers?
    I have yet to fully understand what GFE means in the club? Elaborate for me? I know what it means for a hooker.

    And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    "Hideous?" Not "unattractive" or "not my type" but "Hideous?" And you hate them?


    Yes. Yes, you are an asshole.
    That's pretty harsh, I agree. I'm a size 4, but I'm also close to 5 foot 9. Am I borderline "hideous"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    For me the fantasy is that I pretend that I enjoy talking to you (yes, even the "normal conversation") while the reality is that I really wouldn't care if 99% of the customers burst into flames as soon as they left the club... as long as you weren't near my car.
    This made me laugh out loud. Which I rarely do. Thank you.

    I see what you're saying, Everyman. I really do. It all depends on your definitions of reality and fantasy.

    The strippers are all talking about emotional/theoretical fantasy. Politics of working. Politics of managing emotions while stripping. Et cetera.

    You are talking about physical fantasy--which is, of course, reality in a strip club.

    Everyone is right. Everyman gets his physical reality "fantasy": a girl talks real shit to him, dances while he can feel her real body. And the stripper creates an emotional reality (i.e. a fantasy) where she pretends to (or possibly really does) care about the conversation, as long as she gets paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I have yet to fully understand what GFE means in the club? Elaborate for me? I know what it means for a hooker.

    And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
    Me too. I know what GFE would mean if you hired a lady of the night, but I'm at a loss on what it means inside a strip club. Perhaps it means that the guy wants a stripper to refuse him sex, tell him what a loser he is, maybe a slap or two, refuse to allow him to touch her, you know, like a real gf would do.
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    Just because someone is not attracted to a certain type, how does that make them hideous? I'm not into overweight women, but it doesn't mean I hate them. But I do hate when people I am with starts name calling and demeaning others because of their appearance or other factors. (OK if someone dresses really bad I might laugh, because they brought it upon themselves. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I have yet to fully understand what GFE means in the club? Elaborate for me? I know what it means for a hooker.

    And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
    What she does: A lot of eye-contact, slow and sensual face contact (both with her hands and her face) and, sometimes, lip-to-lip contact (with lips closed).

    What I do: I'm not just staring at her ass and tits all the time, I'm admiring the beauty of her entire body.

    It's kind of like the difference between fucking and making love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glambman View Post
    Just because someone is not attracted to a certain type, how does that make them hideous? I'm not into overweight women, but it doesn't mean I hate them.
    I prefer thin, but I also LOVE big boobs,... so I will go for dancers that are medium-size if they have nice big boobs.

    I wouldn't demean anyone for being overweight, but you shouldn't go into the stripping business, unless you're willing do exercise a lot (which you do just by dancing) and keep fit. Obviously, this business depends on physical appearance, so you WILL be judged according to a very high standard of physical attractiveness.

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    ^^^Being above a size 4 hardly qualifies as "overweight." People can be fit and in good shape and still come in a variety of shapes and sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I have yet to fully understand what GFE means in the club? Elaborate for me? I know what it means for a hooker.

    And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
    For me it's a mini-date that includes feeling her up and ends with a hug and a peck on the cheek. The clubs I go to are hard contact full nude, grinding and groping.

    I'm bored so here are details:

    I tell them upfront that I have no interest in penetrating any part of them. Too many losers try that and if they don't trust you you'll get a crappy dance. I'm not a "regular" (once or twice a month) so they don't know me but I guess I seem trustworthy because they're quickly at ease and then I get kitty in the face (sometimes back flipped, a personal favorite) fondling of T&A and legs. I also like hands. There is also very light kissing. More about physical affection than sex so no, I don't climax. But I may think about them later. LOL

    I also tell my dancer things like that she is the most beautiful women I've ever felt and that she is a genetic masterpiece. Skin is soft, smell awesome, is amazing etc... And yes All my compliments are sincere.

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