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    Default How to Treat Poor Tippers

    With the economy lowering our earnings, I've encountered a LOT of guys looking to tip $1 or $5 in the private dances, where they once tipped $25, minimum. I know a lot of girls will come out and say something to the customer about it, but I'm really kind of uncertain about how to handle the situation.

    I am almost NEVER rude to anyone, in the club or OTC, so I don't want to do that whole, "A buck? You've got to be kidding me." Cause even if it's calling him out, he'll think you're a bitch and might not tip anyways, plus he may go tell other guys shit about you.

    And in NY, you can't ask for a specific amount of money because it's considered solicitation. So it's not like I can actually charge them. And I can't EXACTLY come out and tell them to tip me more. It just has to be implied, with no actual stipulation as to an exact amount. I also can't refuse to do the dance, even if they don't tip at all. Once they've bought the lap dance token from the club, I'm obliged to do it unless they get grabby or something like that. I just tell them, "the better the tip, the better the dance."

    But how do I handle them when they whip out $1 or $2 or $5 at the beginning of the song? Do I need to be firm? Flirty? I'm not comfortable doing the whole sex kitten act and making them believe I'm going to do something I'm not, i.e. sex acts (which they do occasionally seem to expect in the private dances). I had one girl I work with suggest that when they whip out a single, do this whole flirty, "Oh, you can do better than that." So that's one idea. Any others?

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    im a tad confused to how this works.. they purchase a token from the club and you are required to dance? do you get any of the money from that token? Or is it if you get money from the token its solicitation, but if the club sells the token at a set price that is totally legal? I really hope thats not the case and you get some money for the token so you never end up doing a free dance .

    If you are getting some money from the token, its kind of tacky to ask for tips. I am hoping that this token system puts at least 10$ in your pocket for each dance. However, if the club gets all of this token money then you really need to ask for tips.

    How does selling them work? If you are mostly responsible for the sale, you could say something like you must purchase a token from the club to rent the private space for a song, and then some in the garter to get the entertainment started. Or you could say its one token from the house plus a recommended (or suggested) x% gratuity to the dancer. If you can remember the phrase that you often see on restaurants reciepts you could make this sound kind of cute... I cant remember right now because I am quite exhausted. If they raise an eyebrow explain that you dont get any of the token money... this should make them understand your situation. At this point they are aware that your pay depends solely on their tip. If they refuse to tip then just give the lamest dance possible. I would also make sure that you look pissed off through the whole thing. If they are aware that you are not getting paid to give them a dance, make extra sure they dont enjoy it! This is not the type of customer you are going to want business from again anyway. If you are ballsy and dont worry about undercovers, you could just say purchase token from house to rent room, then x$ fee to me for the dance.

    If you are just trying to get higher tips, you could say "i prefer dancing for andrew jackson over george washington" or something to that effect.

    However, if you are getting a significant cut of the token money, I would refrain from asking for tips because it pisses off some customers. Maybe ask the customers who you had to fight off their hands for a tip, but chances are these guys will be saudy that you didnt allow them to grope you and not want to tip.

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    We technically get a $10 cut of the tokens, but of course we don't get the first several cuts or so cause of house fee. And we're really, really discouraged from telling custies that we get that $10 cut, cause then they think we get paid, and we don't. Only tips. And those dances are as high as it gets. Like I said, no champagne room, VIP room, nothing like that.

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    Personally, I rarely ask for tips after private dances. Especially with this economy. I think dances are expensive enough without the "hidden cost" of a tip added on top of it. How much do the guys have to shell out? $20 a song plus a tip? That's crazy money.

    I mean I know that stripping is in the business of luxuries (i.e. if you're poor, you technically shouldn't be in a strip club), but that's even expensive for people with money, ya know?

    Some members in this forum believe that tipping should be expected and whatnot, but I'm not one of them. If someone pays that much money for ~3.5 minutes of my time, I'm not going to hustle them for a tip. Then again, I do work in a no-contact bar, so perhaps I feel more this way since I feel like customers don't get much for their money.

    If you are going to request tips, just try to stay super flirty about it. Light-hearted. Otherwise you could scare them off of buying more dances from you. And I'd suggest doing this at the end of your dance. "Did you have fun?" "Yes" "Great! Would you like to tip me?"

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    Personally, I would try to slip it into the conversation some how, so it doesn't come off as pressure. I do this any time I go some where (clubs, restaraunts, etc) with friends as a way of convincing them to leave a decent tip too (I always give good tips myself)

    Just point out some where during the conversation that dancers don't get pay checks like other people, that they make their living off tips. Say it in a slightly offhanded tone, like it's just a general fact and doesn't necessarily imply you. Any idiot will figure out "Hey, maybe I should tip with a 20 instead of this 1"
    As for the jerk offs who ignore that implication, give them what they pay for. A token gets the dance, but a shit tip gets a shit performance.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
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    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    I agree with Charlie61; I don't ask for tips until after the dance and even then it's in a playful manner. I mean, I don't go out to eat and tip before my meal kwim? So I keep it light and if they tip me, great...if not, no big deal.

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    That's kind of hard since they don't actually have to pull out cash to hand to you. We get to keep all the money from our dances and it's a flat $20 per song. I've occassionaly threw it in at the end....

    "ok. 3 songs, that's $60 bucks for the dances and if you'd like to tip me that would awesome." Or something along those lines. Generally if I ask politely for a tip I get like $5 or some, and then there's the guys that just crazy tip on top of their dances without me asking.

    I only ask if it's been a slow night and I'm desperate to make up some cash.

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    after he gives you money for the dance, do some kind of sexy pose like bending over or something , wiggle and playfully pull out your gstring for a tip, that should work.

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jianna View Post
    I agree with Charlie61; I don't ask for tips until after the dance and even then it's in a playful manner. I mean, I don't go out to eat and tip before my meal kwim? So I keep it light and if they tip me, great...if not, no big deal.
    I totally agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by munch View Post
    That's kind of hard since they don't actually have to pull out cash to hand to you. We get to keep all the money from our dances and it's a flat $20 per song. I've occassionaly threw it in at the end....

    "ok. 3 songs, that's $60 bucks for the dances and if you'd like to tip me that would awesome." Or something along those lines. Generally if I ask politely for a tip I get like $5 or some, and then there's the guys that just crazy tip on top of their dances without me asking.

    I only ask if it's been a slow night and I'm desperate to make up some cash.
    I'm totally stealing this. It's my style, and I am very, very uncomfortable asking for tips. Maybe this will work for me!

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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    I kinda hustle for tips during dances. Where I work it's 10 for nude (Which sucks. Alot.) Too much wear and tear unless you do VIP.

    I tend to bring up tips when guys ask me what they owe.

    ex. "Well, we're sitting at 20 now, but I won't complain if you give me more!" (flirty voice, wink) It tends to make them not feel bad. And then it's up to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettyboop09 View Post
    after he gives you money for the dance, do some kind of sexy pose like bending over or something , wiggle and playfully pull out your gstring for a tip, that should work.
    I love this idea. If I worked in that kind of club, I would totally use this. If a dude tipped me $5 or less before the dance, then I would pull my garter or whatever out for a tip every ten seconds or so. If they didn't get the hint, then I would ask them if they need change for tipping.
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    Default Re: How to Treat Poor Tippers

    I agree with Charlie 100%. I rarely ask for tips after dances or VIPs. I think we make enough already also. I hate when my fellow dancers act like the customer has to tip and then get angry when they choose not to. Or when a customer gives a dollar on stage and the girl says "A dollar?! Really? A dollar?" (I've seen this--one girl actually pushed the guys pile of money on the floor) or gives a dirty look to the guy..
    Not everyone makes money. Not everyone can afford to tip after paying for dances/private room. Regular people are stretching their dollars as it is. We are lucky to make the money we make, it could be SO MUCH WORSE.

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