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    I had a fire in my apartment a few years ago and lost most of my stuff. I was wondering if any of you use a home safe. I have done a little research on them and can get really expensive if I get one that protects against fire. They can be up to 900 lbs. I wanted to use it for important papers becasue in the fire I had most of them burned.

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    you can get a very effective 1 hour fire rated small safe (weighing less than 100 lbs) for a reasonable price these days ...

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    if you have reason to need a 2 hour fire rated safe, there are still some relatively small units available, but both the weight and the price will triple ...



    Obviously with any safe that won't exceed the weight rating of your average pickup truck, trying to obtain security against burglary is more of an exercise in secrecy than anything else. In other words, a girl who buys and installs a small safe in an unlikely location by herself is FAR less likely to be the target of a burglary than a girl who asks friends / family / a local dealer to install a safe for her ! And no safe is actually safe from an armed robbery ... if somebody is pointing a gun in my face I am definitely going to open up the safe when they ask and let them take whatever is in that safe ! So 9/10ths of the battle is keeping secret the fact that you actually have a safe ... and keeping that secret from EVERYBODY. When it comes to 'easy money', even best friends and family aren't 100% trustworthy.

    I'll offer the following anecdote. There was a very high earning dancer who wanted to install the most secure safe available. She wound up buying a floor safe that theoretically could not be broken into without a jackhammer, and had a local dealer install it by cutting a hole in her basement floor and pouring new concrete around the safe. About three months later she came home from a road trip and discovered that her safe was empty. Best guess is that the installation guys working for the local dealer figured out that A) she was a 'stripper', B) she was earning relatively large amounts of cash and stashing it in her new safe, and C) that since she wasn't reporting 100% of her income to the IRS she would be unable to file a police report regarding a burglary (since that police report would automatically lead to questions about how much money was stolen, where did the money come from etc.).

    As I have posted about earlier, I actually have two safes. I have a WalMart special in my bedroom in which I keep about $200 in cash (as a throw-away) and some relatively unimportant papers. I also have a one hour rated wall type fire safe that I installed myself in a very unexpected location, in which I keep my truly valuable things, truly important papers and larger amounts of cash.

    My philosophy behind the two safes is that by providing an obvious target i.e. the Wal Mart special, a burglar is going to 'waste' their efforts going after this target and receiving $200 for their trouble, and any robber is also going to get $200 for their trouble along with an explanation of 'hey, I just went to the bank - you should have robbed me yesterday !'. In both cases, the probability that any burglar / robber would think about the possible existance of a second safe after finding and 'cashing in' on the first safe is astronomically low. And even if such a thought should cross their minds, the worst enemy of any burglar / robber is 'exposure time' - meaning that after investing 10 minutes to get 'paid' $200, its extremely unlikely that any burglar would increase their bust risk by hanging around attempting to search for more valuables versus simply taking the $200 and making a quick exit.

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    Thanks so much. I totally know I can 't trust even my best friend. She stole $25 out of my purse last Saturday while I was at her house. I am checking out the links.

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    Im sorry to hear about your fire.. did you have insurance? you can get it for like 20 a year, or like 14 a month.. the 14$ a month is a better plan.. depending on where you go.,. the 14$ one gives you like 2000 if a hurricane happens and you have to evacuate.. even if nothing happens to your stuff.. pretty cool.. but ya a smaller safe just for cash from your night of work (most banks are closed and I dont trust any deposit safes) and jewlery, birth certificates, valued pictures (baby, maybe a few CD that have all your Pics??) as for the best friend, seems you might need to look for some new friends.. my bf would never steal from me..


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    They way those smaller fire-safes work is by lining the walls with a mineral containing a huge amount of water chemically attached (hydrates). When the walls get hot, in a fire, that water becomes free of the chemical and permeates the inside of the safe. Water absorbs a lot of heat from that external fire before it boils off of that mineral and so it slows down the heating of contents inside the safe. The hour rating is determined by the amount of time the inside stays below a specific temperature wiht a given external fire (heat source) intensity, theoretically

    If your papers have washable ink on your papers or you have dissolvable goods inside, they will be steam damaged as the exposure time increases.

    Household (apt. sized policies) insurance (closer to $200/yr) doesn't reimburse for cash thefts. You'd have to go way out to get enough evidence about that.
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    If your papers have washable ink on your papers or you have dissolvable goods inside, they will be steam damaged as the exposure time increases
    Yup you definitely need to use Ziploc Bags around any important documents. Cash and gold bars tolerate water soaking just fine though.


    Household (apt. sized policies) insurance (closer to $200/yr) doesn't reimburse for cash thefts. You'd have to go way out to get enough evidence about that.
    And, inevitably, attempting to file any claim for stolen cash involves filing a police report ... which also involves allowing the cops to search your residence, also involves being asked where the stolen cash originated from, also involves questions about where you work / who you associate with etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    And, inevitably, attempting to file any claim for stolen cash involves filing a police report ... which also involves allowing the cops to search your residence, also involves being asked where the stolen cash originated from, also involves questions about where you work / who you associate with etc.
    And after all that, your insurance won't pay. Read the fine print.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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