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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    Nope, not apologizing to someone like you. I save my apologies for people I like and respect.

    I did at first say that, but let me be REALLY clear here for the simple minded....After careful consideration, I realized, I actually only despise a select group of you gentlemen here (and I use that term very loosely).

    Just ignore them. Just ignore them. They're trying to get a rise out of you, they obviously have nothing better to do, and they get off thinking they're big important hotshots with penises and money, and all the little women here just can't understand them (bless our hearts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    If that were true strip clubs and breast implants would not exist.

    ...dude...

    Seriously. Knock it off.

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    Hopper and GR, let me be VERY FUCKING CLEAR!!! I was pissed when I wrote that, because I think you guys along with Cyril and Earl are about the lowest humans I have ever had the misfortune to interact with. I am fairly certain I made my position much clearer by my later posts. I have a temper, and an entire range of other normal human emotions. If you don't, please seek help, you clearly have Anti-Social Personality Disorder, although most are just refered to as Sociopaths or Psychopaths. Now I am done with you two... Argue back and forth with each other if you must. You two are not worth the energy it takes to type.

    Oh, and guys, if you don't support a particular male behavior, thats great, but defending why men might exhibit such behavior, even in an intellectual manner, makes you appear to indirectly support such actions. I have personally seen men who "defend" such actions but "would never do such things" well, do them...over and over again, I've seen this with more than one person (more than 2 or 3 actually). The, "Oh, I'd never, I just understand where the drive comes from." is just a bunch of hot air in my experience.
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    Hooper, GR, Earl and Cyrial; big important hotshots with penises and money.

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    i dont think we can condemn people for their thoughts, only for their actions. The human mind is a dirty place and all of us have thoughts that we should not act on, be it in the sexual or violent category.

    If an older guy sees an anonymous and pretty 16 y/o walk by and gets a brief sexual attraction yet does nothing, i dont think he should be condemned. A. wihtout talking to the girl, for all he knows she could be 18. and B. sexual attraction is not always controlled; sexual actions are. If he doesnt try to hit on her or stare creepily and the only one aware of the quick thought is himself, then no harm done. Yes its gross because we should be protecting those who are more innocent, but a brief thought is not the only thing defining a character. Now if the older guy seduces the 16 y/o, that is fucked up and IMO, taking advantage of someone. a 16 yr old might be 'sexually mature' in a physical sense, but mentally they are not developed. Seducing her would be taking advantage of her and could cause her emotional problems later in life.

    we all have thoughts that are wrong. There have been times when i have gotten angry to the point where i wanted to harm or kill someone, as i am sure every person on this board has also. Did I/would i really? No. So am I a horrible person for wanting to hurt someone in a moment of rage? I hope not. Now if i acted on it and severely injured someone because i was pissed, then I would be condemned. Those arent the only troublesome thoughts i have had... if someone leaves a valuable item unnattended where there is no possibility of me getting caught, i might be tempted to swipe it. However, I dont. I dont think briefly thinking about stealing it is bad as long as I dont act on the thought. Resisting temptation is part of being human.

    so yea i just thought i would add my 2 cents.

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    ...*sigh*.

    Don't think there's really anything left to say here.

    And I'm really, really glad shit like this doesn't make me hate men in general.

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    Wow this thread got deep.. How about we get back to the topic of "Real vs Fake boobs".. If we're only talking about breasts, My personal preference is a C-D cup... Natural or "Natural looking" will always be preferred... But I feel that a personality or presence is so much more important.. Even if you're just walking by me in the club, If you have a great smile and a certain "Glow".. I am far more attracted to you.. regardless if your boobs are large or small or real or fake... I encourage ladies in the club to focus on their confidence and mannerisms before even considering BA, you will always find guys who like small natural breasts over large fake ones.. it's about what else you have to offer that will get the customer coming back, or spending more than that initial $20 on a lap dance.. k, I'm done ranting... :o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    Hopper and GR, let me be VERY FUCKING CLEAR!!! I was pissed when I wrote that, because I think you guys along with Cyril and Earl are about the lowest humans I have ever had the misfortune to interact with. I am fairly certain I made my position much clearer by my later posts. I have a temper, and an entire range of other normal human emotions. If you don't, please seek help, you clearly have Anti-Social Personality Disorder, although most are just refered to as Sociopaths or Psychopaths. Now I am done with you two... Argue back and forth with each other if you must. You two are not worth the energy it takes to type.

    Oh, and guys, if you don't support a particular male behavior, thats great, but defending why men might exhibit such behavior, even in an intellectual manner, makes you appear to indirectly support such actions. I have personally seen men who "defend" such actions but "would never do such things" well, do them...over and over again, I've seen this with more than one person (more than 2 or 3 actually). The, "Oh, I'd never, I just understand where the drive comes from." is just a bunch of hot air in my experience.
    I made it clear that I was not defending men screwing all the 16-y-o's they can, so why do you think I am one of the lowest humans?

    We have tempers too, but we can control them. We are not anti-social because of that. Not controlling your temper is anti-social. I gave you no reason to lose it. You are a troll.
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    we are all perverts in the SC in my opinion. Hes a pervert, you're a pervert, I'm a pervert.

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    Well the convo turned south in large part because too many of us joined in, essentially ganging up princessjas, which was certainly not my intent in responding... not that she can't defend her position fine, but the majority of us dig in harder when too many jump on us at the same time and miss our valid points in the fray.

    Also when you cut through the noise, we can only get so upset about someone whose key point is that it is wrong to sexually prey on minors. Like of all the possible things a person could say or do, I can't possibly be upset with someone for having STRONG convictions about protecting minors. We probably need more of that.

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    ^She attacked me because I was defending Cyril against others accusing him of trolling when he commented on Avery's pic. That was nothing to do with the men screwing 16-y-o's issue. So, she is a troll. Then suddenly in the above post she is attacking me over that. That is also trolling, moral outrage or not.

    As far as I can tell, GR did not defend it either, he just said that it is natural for men to find 16-y-o's sexually attractive, which I agree with. In the UK, where 16 yrs is below the age of consent, 16 yo girls have appeared in major men's girlie mags like Mayfair.

    Personally I don't think it is wrong for older men to have sex with 16-yo girls. I don't know where the dancers here get the idea from that it is pedophilia. I do recognise that usually 16-yo girls, being newly out of adolescence, are emotionally immature and vulnerable. However, that does not stop them from having sex with boys (say) 15 to 18 years old, and people don't make a moral issue of that. Younger girls (12 to 15) also have sex with boys near their age, but most people consider girls that age to be too young for sex at all, though fact is some do it.

    Whatever the dancers here think, the issue isn't clear cut, so they don't have any real right to attack us over it.
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    we are all perverts in the SC in my opinion. Hes a pervert, you're a pervert, I'm a pervert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ^She attacked me because I was defending Cyril against others accusing him of trolling when he commented on Avery's pic. That was nothing to do with the men screwing 16-y-o's issue. So, she is a troll. ...
    It has already been explained that the perception of Cyril is based on more than that singular post and on a larger pattern of behavior.

    Btw - Several members have viewed many of Cyril's posts in a negative light. Personally I feel that he is primarily guilty for trying to discuss topics on which he has little knowledge or experience so he comes off as ignorant and uninformed. However, your attempts to accuse Jas and other dancers of being a trolls is falling on deaf ears and only working to further cause some people to shut you out. Rather than convincing people to your side, you are mearly pushing them further away.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ... Personally I don't think it is wrong for older men to have sex with 16-yo girls. ...

    Whatever the dancers here think, the issue isn't clear cut, so they don't have any real right to attack us over it.
    Try using that defense in a court of law when someone is charged with statutory rape.

    For as much as you feel you are entitled to your opinion on the matter of "older men having sex with 16-yo girls", other people are entitled to consider that position to be disgusting.

    Of all the issues and topics to pick while trying to claim to be unfarily viewed and treated, this one is clearly not the best.
    If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.


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    In one post you say "I made it clear that I was not defending men screwing all the 16-y-o's they can, so why do you think I am one of the lowest humans?"

    Then, in your very next post you say "Personally I don't think it is wrong for older men to have sex with 16-yo girls."

    BTW - I am reporting your posts and asking that you be removed from this board. We DO NOT need a sexual predator on a board made for women.

    Also, lay off calling all the dancers trolls. It doesn't make you look cool. You look like an ass. Do you know how many people have congratulated me for standing up to you guys in this thread, both by PM's and in chat? That says something of the popularity of your position, whatever that may be. Oh, and about half were men, that says even more, huh?

    Saying I attacked you for defending Cyril is laughable. I called you an asshat after you kept posting pissiness over and over again after Cyril had agreed with my post saying he should have figured out that was Avery. Cyril and I had NO ISSUES until YOU kept bringing the issue up repeatedly and he eventually backed you in your attacks.

    As for me being a troll, go back and read my posts. I responded in an intellectual manner, and was the only one actually READING posts and responding with counterpoints to each idea brought up. When I skipped one accidentally I apologized, called myself a sleepyhead and addressed the forgotten point.

    After a point though, your attacks (and a few others) became ridiculous and aggravating to the point where I gave up and resigned myself to the fact that you are indeed scum (as can be seen by your conviction that fucking 16-yr olds is appropriate). I truly hope you are in jail soon.

    Also, to further defend myself on the troll accusation. I am obviously a girl and a retired dancer, I have a pic in my avi and have several long-standing members that can vouch for me. Check my past posts. Most are supportive and encouraging to the dancers on this forum, many have useful information.

    Lastly, you need to go back and read a description on anti-social behavior. Losing your temper once certainly does not qualify.




    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ^She attacked me because I was defending Cyril against others accusing him of trolling when he commented on Avery's pic. That was nothing to do with the men screwing 16-y-o's issue. So, she is a troll. Then suddenly in the above post she is attacking me over that. That is also trolling, moral outrage or not.

    As far as I can tell, GR did not defend it either, he just said that it is natural for men to find 16-y-o's sexually attractive, which I agree with. In the UK, where 16 yrs is below the age of consent, 16 yo girls have appeared in major men's girlie mags like Mayfair.

    Personally I don't think it is wrong for older men to have sex with 16-yo girls. I don't know where the dancers here get the idea from that it is pedophilia. I do recognise that usually 16-yo girls, being newly out of adolescence, are emotionally immature and vulnerable. However, that does not stop them from having sex with boys (say) 15 to 18 years old, and people don't make a moral issue of that. Younger girls (12 to 15) also have sex with boys near their age, but most people consider girls that age to be too young for sex at all, though fact is some do it.

    Whatever the dancers here think, the issue isn't clear cut, so they don't have any real right to attack us over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    Personally I don't think it is wrong for older men to have sex with 16-yo girls. I don't know where the dancers here get the idea from that it is pedophilia. I do recognise that usually 16-yo girls, being newly out of adolescence, are emotionally immature and vulnerable.
    Hey, I honestly can't get too worked up over someone having fantasies remembering a HS lover or wanted-to-be-lover of when they were also of the same age.

    Some, like jas, also have issues with older people actively fantasizing about teens. Some people may see it as okay if it is only fantasy. For me there is a murky grey area in the middle.. i can only get so worked up over passing thoughts.

    I think it is pretty creepy when a grown man goes to a SC and picks the dancer dressed as HS girl, feeling it is moving from fantasy to action, though not everyone agrees with that.

    But if your position is it's actually okay, then expect a lot of strong disagrement... it crosses a very clear line from thoughts to action.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    However, that does not stop them from having sex with boys (say) 15 to 18 years old, and people don't make a moral issue of that. Younger girls (12 to 15) also have sex with boys near their age, but most people consider girls that age to be too young for sex at all, though fact is some do it.
    It is absolutely crystal clear that post-pubescent teens are wired to want to have sex. It is instinctual for them as it is to want to eat when hungry.

    But I remember that age quite well, and say I'm like 99.9% of people at that age. We're wired to want to have sex with each other at that age, NOT adult 40, 50, etc, somethings. You just aren't going to find many teenager fantasizing about having sex with older adults. Even though it may happen on rare occasion, and predators may look for them, the majority of people do have a problem with it for multiple reasons.

    It is not that it is wrong for post pubescent teens to want to have sex with each other (well it is wrong only that they tend to be driven by instinct first, and worry about the consequences like pregnancy second), but there are many good reasons why the vast majority sense that it is wrong for a mature adult to prey sexually on someone who is still very much a child.

    It meets my personal definition of morally "wrong"

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    Uh, I have no issue with that sorta thing. I'm not crazy, I swear! I don't even have a problem with the occassional thought that "Oh, she's hot." I have issues with grown men who routinely fantasize about teenies in their lives, that they see every day, that sorta thing. Not the men who may have a passing thought.

    To be honest, I have experience as the teenie, and I can tell you MANY grown men felt me up, hit on me, etc. These same men condemned pedophiles and such, and always tried to act like such caring adults. Massaging my shoulders or feet at dinner parties as an excuse to touch me...Ick, it felt like an extreme violation of my person. Also, hopefully many of you guys who didn't understand my position when I said that many who defend the right to fantasize would actually make it reality, now see where I was coming from in the light of Hoppers revelation that fucking 16 yr olds is OK with him. In my experience this isn't that rare, and honestly, I'm not now and wasn't then that damn irresistible, so I don't believe my experience was in any way unique.

    Also, about teens wanting to have sex with each other... You are absolutely right, they RARELY want to have sex with older adults and the girls that do generally have daddy issues. They are easily manipulated by older men and are not emotionally capable of dealing with an adult. That is why most consider it ok for them to sleep with one another, but not with a mature adult. We are on different levels maturity wise and the imbalance generally causes severe emotional and sometimes psychological trama to the teen. Meaning it is not a victimless crime....even if the teen is willing.

    (I realize nearly everyone knows everything I just wrote in the last paragraph, that was just for Hopper and anyone else who thinks it is acceptable behavior.)

    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    Hey, I honestly can't get too worked up over someone having fantasies remembering a HS lover or wanted-to-be-lover of when they were also of the same age.

    Some, like jas, also have issues with older people actively fantasizing about teens. Some people may see it as okay if it is only fantasy. For me there is a murky grey area in the middle.. i can only get so worked up over passing thoughts.

    I think it is pretty creepy when a grown man goes to a SC and picks the dancer dressed as HS girl, feeling it is moving from fantasy to action, though not everyone agrees with that.

    But if your position is it's actually okay, then expect a lot of strong disagrement... it crosses a very clear line from thoughts to action.




    It is absolutely crystal clear that post-pubescent teens are wired to want to have sex. It is instinctual for them as it is to want to eat when hungry.

    But I remember that age quite well, and say I'm like 99.9% of people at that age. We're wired to want to have sex with each other at that age, NOT adult 40, 50, etc, somethings. You just aren't going to find many teenager fantasizing about having sex with older adults. Even though it may happen on rare occasion, and predators may look for them, the majority of people do have a problem with it for multiple reasons.

    It is not that it is wrong for post pubescent teens to want to have sex with each other (well it is wrong only that they tend to be driven by instinct first, and worry about the consequences like pregnancy second), but there are many good reasons why the vast majority sense that it is wrong for a mature adult to prey sexually on someone who is still very much a child.

    It meets my personal definition of morally "wrong"
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    There's a difference between two 16-year-olds having sex with each other, and some 45-year-old man pursuing a 16-year-old for sex.

    That's why it's ILLEGAL in most places.

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    I am locking this thread until such time that charlie and I have time to discuss it. Do not create new threads to continue the argument or carry it into other existing threads.

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