




Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





I visit all sorts of S-Cs. From my main hang out which is quite minimalist [basically "Cheers", all regulars - bikini dancers included and good food to the parties I help run which are nothing like anything I've seen in the region.
There is room for all of it IF everyone involved is of legal age, operating under fully informed consent, and on the same page.
Apparently I am not anywhere near as judgmental as Jay.![]()
I love it. He's quoting NJ State law to the retired NJ police detective who use to enforce those laws.Of course some owner/managers may look the other way, and some dancers may be willing, but according to the NJ Liquor licensing regs. licensed establishments are not supposed to allow contact. D'oh!
Gotta love it.![]()
I'm retired now so I don't have to hold the company line anymore. This stuff ought to be legalized, zoned, licensed and have taxes collected on it so that like minded adults can do as they please without the intrusion of the state in a way where others who don't want to be bothered don't have to be, and where the money paid out to clean up any mess made comes from those involved and not the general tax fund.
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





Depends how you define "different" as the clubs of NY and NJ actually aren't all that different at all when you get down to it.
To be very candid with you there are no clubs in NYC where FoM's with enough money can't get past restrictions. There isn't a club in Manhattan or Queens [I'm not big on the clubs of Brooklyn, SI or the Bronx] where I haven't gotten SFT in the VIP. That includes PEC, Hustler, Millennium, all the Flash Dance clubs, Ricks, Dolls, Tens, PE, etc, etc, etc. So I am talking not only from info I know from 30 years banging around the clubs of the greater NYC area but from first hand experience.
The hard truth follows: I will go on record saying that THERE IS NOT A SINGLE HIGH END CLUB IN NYC THAT CAN SAY THAT IT NEVER HAD AN ACT OF PROSTITUTION GO DOWN INSIDE OF IT.
There is always some movie star, pro athlete, whale, good tipping regular, Friend of Management, etc and so forth, who has been given Special F*'ing Treatment in the VIP.
If you know people and/or you have money the sky is the limit. It has ALWAYS been that way and nothing is different now. In fact the ONLY club I haven't had SFT in is Scores and that is because I chose not to go that route there because management was just too scuzzy for words and I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of allowing them to think I owed them a favor.
So, and I mean this with honest respect, when you suggest "no one is doing anything in my club" it just makes you seem a tad naive, and I truly think you are smarter than that.
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





ALERT: Candid, grown up talk to follow. If you'd rather not read the truth please skip this post.
That isn't true at all, Lopaw. The clubs in Fla, especially in the Palms/Pompano area are just short of brothels. The clubs in Rhode Island, especially in Providence ARE brothels. Pockets of clubs in various cities of NY, NJ, CT and PA provide extras ranging from hand jobs all the way up to full service on site [the clubs of Long Island City in Queens, NY, for example]. Many more offer dancers who will see customers off site for what amounts to full fledged escorting.
It simply is as it is. I am NOT suggesting it is as it ought to be, though I do believe that ADULTS should be legally allowed to practice their sexuality, whether that be as a commodity or not, as they see fit so long as everyone involved is operating under fully informed consent.
[If such were the case perhaps all the prostitution could find other venues besides S-Cs and then S-Cs could be allowed to go back to what they once were]
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





It was almost half my life time, so it looms large I suppose. As I get further and further away from it I suppose it will seem less so...
But on this site, when people keep bringing up situations where my former employment has direct application... like your post above, and the one where a woman needs a temporary restraining order [actually several of those], etc, etc, how can I not mention it as I keeps coming up as the basis of why I am qualified to answer the question. [and around here if you don't qualify upfront why you are responding someone is bound to say, "Who the blank are you and why don't you keep your opinion to yourself."]
This being such a friendly place and all sometimes...
[now, now, don't everyone get all up in my grill... I've been round here long enough that all should know by now I love all my fellow SW'ers... even Yoda]
Last edited by Golden_Rule; 06-05-2009 at 12:07 AM.
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





No, I said I wasn't going to comment and I'm not bc Im not interested in debating it with you. Baiting me into answering isn't going to work either.
I don't understand what you don't understand. That response was to something Earl had said, nothing to do with you at all.
Sorry I missed church. I was too busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian.
"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
"you conjunctively engender an intoxicating combination of wicked, wholesome & insanely intelligent" - a friend describing me
Blessed Be





I'm not baiting you because, 1) I have no interest to do that. 2) I don't think I could even if I wanted to, you are too strong willed for a tactic like that and I am not a stupid man who wouldn't recognize that.
I just asked it because I had a legitimate curiosity to know what your response would be, but if you don't care to answer it its not going to ruin my day [nor yours either I would suppose.]
I don't understand what you don't understand. That response was to something Earl had said, nothing to do with you at all.
Open forums work that way. What you say to one you say to all, who are free to comment. In my opinion that is one of the good things about open forums [when ideas get exchanged and people can learn a bit from each other... rare enough I suppose but when it happens its never a bad thing]
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?




i prefer implants but that's just me.
"The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works" -GORDON GECCO





Sorry I missed church. I was too busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian.
"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
"you conjunctively engender an intoxicating combination of wicked, wholesome & insanely intelligent" - a friend describing me
Blessed Be



I prefer natural! I agree that a well done saline implant makes it hard to tell the difference. Even in "no contact" MA the customer usually gets his face rubbed by the entertainer's breast. Even a foolish customer (me) realizes there are different augmentations and develop a preference.





Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?





^I'm not a mind reader. I'll assume if it was worth talking about you would've explained yourself.![]()
Sorry I missed church. I was too busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian.
"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
"you conjunctively engender an intoxicating combination of wicked, wholesome & insanely intelligent" - a friend describing me
Blessed Be





I have. You either can't or refuse to hear so we are relegated to the "Department of Redundancy Department" and I acknowledge defeat on the alter of diminishing returns for my efforts to get you to understand what I am driving at.
Sometimes I think that isn't all that unusual for us though [other times I am certain you know damn well what I am getting at but are waging a war of attrition, in which case congrats... you won]
Still know I wish you nothing but well...
Last edited by Golden_Rule; 06-10-2009 at 06:20 PM.
Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.
BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?









Sorry I missed church. I was too busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian.
"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
"you conjunctively engender an intoxicating combination of wicked, wholesome & insanely intelligent" - a friend describing me
Blessed Be


When Golden Rule said he did not understand, it was because you accepted Earl's explanation, but not his and they were basically the same thing.
That is part of the reason for the statement that follows:
*correction to this word for ease of understandingby GoldenRule
What was it about the phrase "fully informed mutual consent" that I was using to describe the activities in these clubs that you didn't understand earlier*?
Last edited by the truth; 06-22-2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason: added a comma
I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness for it shows me the stars

Mainly older men are replying about liking natural better. so it depends on whether you want to attract guys 35 and under or old guys 45-65 yr olds. Younger guys don't mind or even like implants from seeing so many in porn. up to you babe, do what makes you happy.




I am definitely not that old (45-65). Yet, I like natural boobs.








I just want to mention one thing. Nearly all of my regulars insisted they would quit getting dances after my BA. Most BEGGED me not to have it done. In reality, I think only one guy quit coming to the club to see me.
I have a good, natural looking BA with no scarring and nearly everyone was pleasantly suprised and loved the results. So many guys told me that they were so shocked because they NEVER like implants, but thought mine looked great. I DO have quiet a bit of natural breast tissue which causes a much softer feeling result and enables you to keep that natural jiggle that real breasts have as that tissue sits on top of the implant, this also makes it impossible to feel the actual implant. (Although I smack the crap out of custies for trying to feel up my tits.) I really think guys just don't like BAD implants.


This is a really good point, not all implants have that fake 'bolt on' look that we are so used to seeing in the media and porn. I personally find that look unnattractive, but each to their own..
BA can look great (and surprisingly natural) when it's used to simply add just that little bit of extra volume and exentuate the natural shape of the breast.
When it comes to boobs, fake or not, I'm looking for: Nice shape, nice nipples, perky and in proportion to your body.




You're welcome, though I didn't get the reason for the other person's comment.
I just had a horrible thought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQejXCXsnow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRfmg...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFo2D...eature=related
Bookmarks