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    So I go up to these two guys sitting at the back of the club and sit beside one of them, ("Adam"), introduce myself, all that jazz. We start talking and he tells me he "never goes into these sorts of places", blah blah blah... but he seems nice enough anyway.

    Then he starts moping about how sad it is that these ladies are "exploiting their bodies" and how he'd prefer some conversation over some girl taking her top off for him. He goes on about how this place is sensory overload and he apparently cant deal with a room of scantily clad women and feels "bad" for being there. I try to console his feelings of male-guilt and use some rationality on him. He begs me "please, PLEASE, don't take your clothes off for me, I'd love to just talk to you.. and I'll pay you money, just like I paid that other dancer who talked to me earlier" *points to another dancer*. Sounds like a good deal right?

    Then he says that he doesnt stage tip because he doesnt wanna ENCOURAGE this sort of objectifying behavior. Which I think he was being genuine about but it's also a fucking stupid notion. So watching this shit for free is ok but compensating these women for their labor is wrong??

    Anyway he hands me a $20 and asks for $10 back, so i give it to him.

    His friend ("Bob") gets mad at me for "taking advantage" of his "nice friend", and turns to Adam and tells him to "not let these girls take advantage of his kindness". I smile and tell Bob that I'd give Adam a dance in a heartbeat, but that he really really doesnt want one. I mean, is it so inconceivable that a guy would pay for my time, even if im not dancing for him?? What a cheap idiot.

    So I laugh and ask Bob if I can dance for him, since he loves dances so much, and he says ok.

    I give him a table dance, and as im dancing for him keeps telling me that id better not be taking advantage of his friend, and I keep telling his im not doing anything like that... and when I'm done he doesnt seems to be taking any money out of his pocket. I tell him "that'll be $10 sweetie".

    He looks at me like I've just stolen his fucking wallet or something, shakes his head slowly and dissapointingly, and points to Adam and says "make him pay for it."

    Now, my theory is that he thought the dance was free, since Adam had given me $10 for doing "nothing". (Because of course wasting my time on a Friday night assuaging some dude's guilt and listening to his problems is "nothing"). But it's only 10 bucks!!

    Then he says "my friend gave you a 20 right?" "Well," I said, "he gave me a 20 and I gave him back a 10, so he paid me 10 for my time... but you owe me $10 for the dance I just gave you".

    He starts yelling at his friend that im not telling the truth and Adam is like "YES, SHE GAVE ME $10 BACK DUDE," and then apologizes and pays for his asshole friend's dance.


    So one guy doesn't value a woman's sexual labor (lapdances and whatnot) and the other doesn't value a woman's emotional labor (chatting and consoling and playing therapist).

    I hope I never see either one again.

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    Default Re: I'm not "taking advantage" of anyone!!

    what assholes

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    That's hilarious, he's so concerned about you taking advantage of his "nice friend" so then he turns around and takes advantage of his "nice friend" himself. Boy, that'll show you!

    LOL, sorry you had to deal with that, it must've been frustrating. But it is funny how damn stupid they are.

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    What a bunch of morons. Seriously. Captain Save A Ho and The Misogynist. Who'd have thought they'd be partners in crime.

    And $10 for time? Really? What a cheapass.

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    i hate running across guys like this at work. They think they're extra-special and play mind games, and seriously slow down the hustle. JUST BE A STRAIGHTFORWARD, EARNEST GENTLEMAN! You're not impressing ANYONE but yourself! I don't think you're more interesting or unique or whatever, I think you're a pain in my ass.

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    I've dealt with those types of guys.. They didn't like to tip because they thought it was "encouraging" dancers to take advantage. These same guys always came in and always gave the same story. Basically they wanted a freebie, like the dancers "owed" them. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an act to get more for less.

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    weirdos
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    I've met a few of those guys. I just get up and walk away; they aren't willing to spend more then $20 most of the time so it's not worth my time to sway their opinions.

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    Awwwwww what dickblowers. I'm sorry they wasted your time. But it was a little funny, and you have a great attitude about the situation.

    I hope they don't come back either unless they come with the appropriate financial incentives.

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    what fucking idiots. both of them. unfortunately this kind of bullshit is becoming more and more common lately it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    That's hilarious, he's so concerned about you taking advantage of his "nice friend" so then he turns around and takes advantage of his "nice friend" himself. Boy, that'll show you!

    LOL, sorry you had to deal with that, it must've been frustrating. But it is funny how damn stupid they are.
    yeh, i think he was trying to "teach his friend a lesson" about being nice or something- plus he probably didnt have any cash left. Macho assholes have a weird way of treating their 'friends'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkkitten View Post
    what fucking idiots. both of them. unfortunately this kind of bullshit is becoming more and more common lately it seems.
    i have this theory that its becoming more fashionable nowadays for men to claim they're anti-strip-club/anti-sex-work and to throw around a couple buzzwords they learned in Intro to Women's Studies, without actually working to change their own sexist behavior and attitudes or challenge larger scale sexist policies. It lets them pat themselves on the back while conveniently getting a free show at stripclubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    What a bunch of morons. Seriously. Captain Save A Ho and The Misogynist. Who'd have thought they'd be partners in crime.

    And $10 for time? Really? What a cheapass.
    Captain Save A Ho and The Misogynist- haha. Most annoying, time-wasting superhero team ever!

    My club is super slow right now and i pretty much just sat there for a couple songs anyway But yeh, the guys are cheap as fuck. They come in scraping together loose change for beers, knowing damn well they aint gonna tip a single girl. I need to stop being so nice to them and just walk away, and not sit and talk to them no matter how slow the club is that night. Which is why I sit in the dressing room sometimes- it's either that or sit alone for hours while guys look at me funny for not sitting and chatting with them.



    Quote Originally Posted by lilymiaomiao View Post
    i hate running across guys like this at work. They think they're extra-special and play mind games, and seriously slow down the hustle. JUST BE A STRAIGHTFORWARD, EARNEST GENTLEMAN! You're not impressing ANYONE but yourself! I don't think you're more interesting or unique or whatever, I think you're a pain in my ass.
    I know right?? But that's why people say shit like that while continuing to stay in that environment, to impress themselves about what good people they are so they can sleep at night. I told the guy, look, that girl on stage is gonna get topless whether you tip her or not.

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    Sorry you had to deal with this. Personally, I would have given him one more chance and then called the bouncer over to have the guy pay.
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    omg I hate it when the nice guy has a stupid friend with him who tries to cock-block the dancers. The friends attitude should have been a signal for you to collect the $10 up front. When an apparent asshole is already showing signs of being a tightwad, before you've even danced for him, there is a good chance he will try to pay you less, or worse, not at all.
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    UGHHHH. This shit makes me so annoyed my brain wants to explode. I wish these fuckers would just STAY.OUT.OF.THE.CLUB. I will never, ever understand why guys do this shit. Come to the club to sit there and talk about how they don't like it.

    Why the FUCK are you there, then? Are you really that bored with your life that you have to pull this kind of act? I don't understand this kind of behavior right now with the economy especially. You would think as broke as everyone is, that on top of hating strip clubs, it would be a really good reason not to go.
    BUT......INSTEAD......they still walk through those doors. WHY god why.

    The way I see it, it would be like my husband and I going to a particular bar here in town that we HATE, sitting there on the bar stool talking about how much the place sucks, playing mind games with the bartenders and either refusing to pay for our drinks or not tipping them. We don't like the bar, so guess what we DON'T GO THERE.

    Most guys I know (friends and acquaintances) that don't like strip clubs just don't go. It's easy. If you don't like something, don't do it!!!!

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    WELL AREN'T THEY A BUNCH OF NUTJOBS! Wow
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    Yea, when you meet guys like that just say "Excuse me" and walk away. You don't need to waste another second on them.

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    Next time let him keep his ten dollars and his 2 cents, get the eff away! There is no way I could or would politely put up with that crap. Why was he even there? ughh.

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    men thinking what we do is a "scam" and not a legit "job" is what causes them to be able to justify not spending money on us. like i've said before... they think they are "winning".

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    Please don't take advantage of my friend because...THAT'S MY JOB.

    Anytime a guy has a gripe about strip clubs and being taken advantage of I tell them "Men pay me big money to played and manipulated. What's your point?"




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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    what a bunch of morons. Seriously. Captain save a ho and the misogynist. Who'd have thought they'd be partners in crime.

    And $10 for time? Really? What a cheapass.

    hahahahaha

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    I've always hated guys like that. They are so annoying...
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