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    Default Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    Has anyone heard about the NY state legislation that is being considered - called the Sex Performer Registration Bill? It would force all NYC dancers to get work permits and be registered with the state, and it has to do with prevention of trafficking. Some nonprofits are encouraging letter writing campaigns to protest this... What do you all know about this?

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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A06476

    It doesn't look like it would be a bad thing necessarily. I mean lots of places require dancers to have a permit. Im surprised this hasn't happened sooner honestly.
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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    It's a problem if you don't want an official record of your stripping. I sure as HELLLLL don't.


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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    The problem with not fighting bills such as this, as well as the "Pole Tax" etc. is that it opens the door for more of them. If the government, especially a financially strapped one, sees no opposition to these measures they will soon find more and more ways to suck money from our industry until it is no longer viable for a club owner, especially a small to medium sized one, to operate. The club I work at has joined ACE () which is a national organization devoted to battling such issues across the country. Alot of club owners are unaware of these things and I think it's in all of our best interest to speak to management about it.

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    I talked with a 'friend' at the state capital ... and the following points would appear to apply :

    - the bill would require de-facto licensing of all exotic dancers across New York state, not just NYC. This de-facto dancer's license is being called a permit though in order to circumvent already existing laws governing other types of state issued 'professional licenses' ( i.e. uniform license criteria, uniform appeal procedures when licenses are denied etc.)

    - the bill would both create a state-wide database of every NY dancer's real name, real address, real SS# as collected from permit applications, and also require that every club maintain similar records on premisis ... which as public record info then becomes available to other state / local agencies as well as to FOIL requests by private companies / individuals.

    - the bill would allow an as yet unspecified state LE agency to perform a 'background check' on every dancers' permit applicant ... as well as a similar check of the strip club the permitted dancer works at. Applications for permits could be denied for as yet unspecified reasons under already existing legal authority which already applies to approval / denial of other types of state issued permits.

    - the bill would also allow the NYS Dep't of Labor to actively enter the fray in regard to dancers being treated as 'indepenent contractors' versus 'statutory employees' by NY strip clubs. This is a matter where the state of California has already taken a position in declaring that all 'house dancers' working in that state are actually 'statutory employees'. Such a declaration then legally requires that club owners begin paying tipped minimum wage to dancers, begin paying unemployment insurance and workmen's comp insurance payments to the state on behalf of dancers, and begin reporting dancer incomes through the club's payroll system (with income taxes withheld).

    - one of the main 'stealth' goals of this bill would be to force both clubs and dancers to more accurately account for their incomes, and to increase the amount of New York state income tax dollars collected as a result. A Secondary 'stealth' goal is to force clubs to pay more money towards NY state unemployment and workmen's comp insurance funds (which are both technically bankrupt). Yet another secondary 'stealth' goal is for the NY state social services dep't to cross-check the new database of exotic dancers against it's own database of social welfare benefit recipients, with the intent of terminating ongoing benefits and collecting repayment from dancers for 'fraudulently obtained' previous social welfare benefit payments already received.

    This bill would also 'formalize' the fact that exotic dancers are to be classified as part of the 'sex industry' right along with adult bookstores ... and NOT as part of the 'entertainment industry'. Doing so clears up all ambiguity in regard to existing 'sex industry' laws applying directly to strip clubs, as well as creating a clear distinction between the first amendment free expression rights of the 'entertainment industry' versus the state's future ability to regulate the 'sex industry'.

    This bill would also set a precedent that NY strip clubs would fall under the jurisdiction of state authorities as opposed to local authorities ... which in turn would make club owner financed legal appeals much more complex and much more expensive versus a legal appeal against a city ordinance.

    By implication (i.e. the bill making specific mention of acts of human trafficking and prostitution occurring in strip clubs), the bill authorizes STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT agencies to begin random investigations of strip clubs ... something which was formerly the domain of local LE.

    My 'friend' tells me that, because of the state's deep budget deficit, and because of the strong possibility that NY state income tax, NY state workmen's comp, and NY state unemployment insurance funds would all receive more money from clubowners and/or dancers, that passage of this bill is virtually guaranteed. All in all, this bill is a 'wolf in sheep's clothing', which uses the justification of supposedly protecting dancers from 'exploitation' as a means to greatly increase the state's monitoring of NY exotic dancers and NY strip club operations.

    My 'friend' also points out that, once successfully implemented, this bill will then provide a precedent for the easy implementation of other future state-wide regulations upon NY strip clubs (i.e. potential minimum distance between dancers and customers' rules, potential 'no direct money transfer between customers and dancers' rules etc.). At present, certain cities have been pushing for such rules while other cities have been resisting them. By kicking strip club 'regulation' up to the state level, in effect it gives suburban and rural NY state voters a say in future strip club regulations even though a large number of those voters may not actually have a strip club located in their own area !!!


    My 'friend' also pointed out that this bill includes a loophole that is larger than a meteor crater in that it does NOT apply to full nude no alcohol 'lap dance' clubs. The implication of course is that the main targets of this bill will be the high profile upscale 'show clubs' and the relatively high earning dancers that typically work in such clubs, with 'meat market' sleaze clubs and the dancers working in them remaining more or less unaffected. This is not altogether surprising, since most of the 'owners' of the high profile upscale 'show clubs' are corporate in nature, whereas most of the 'owners' of 'meat market' sleaze clubs are ... shall we say ... 'family'.

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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    It's been awhile since I've heard about an underage dancer... but I know it happens or they at least attempt to audition and then get chased out of clubs. If it helps cut down on the chance of underage people trying to audition than I am all for it.

    If it requires a background check to make sure dancers haven't been in legal trouble than I am all for it.

    If it requires that dancers randomly be checked for drugs than I am all for it.

    What I am NOT for is making the information public. I could see that leading to problems with dancers being harassed by their neighbors, stalked by customers, or violence from people who oppose this type of work.
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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    wow that fucking sucks. all you ny girls should right in protesting, or try to get a large amount of signitures on a petition against it.

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    Default Re: Attention NY: Sex Performer Registration Bill

    further comments on this new NY dancer permit bill is in the Industry Insight forum ...

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