Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if it were mostly Americans engaging in this sadistic practice.

I will NEVER understand how people can say this and be met with anything other than horror. I hear it way too often, and... wtf?
I don't know what ethical code you're operating by, but that's pretty damn terrible.
This is a sad story, but it's sadder that this is being focused on instead of the many far more widespread animal cruelty issues.
Puppies are cute, whatever. That doesn't make them more deserving of sympathy.

uh is that sarcastic?
She said she'd save an animal's life before that of most people.
The primary "legitimate" use of guns is to kill animals, yet she supports them so they can (very infrequently) be used in self defence.
I'd call that a lot of things, but consistent is not one of them.





Why is it terrible? I love animals more than people. Animals have never tried to have me beaten, animals have never betrayed me, animals have never been as cruel to me as people. I don't like most people. Most people would screw over someone for a dollar. My money goes to animal charities more than it does people charities (though I have a few people charities I give to, mostly cancer and children). Exactly how is my greater love for animals unethical? I don't see animals doing this to people, do you? Of course not.





I know, I know I'm such an ignorant fucking whore that you need to use all the meta talk in your power to prove that I couldn't possibly know what I am talking about and that I couldn't possibly know anything you don't. Would you consider that for just one second- a person who grew up on the beaches of Venezuela and has a couple dozen friends that still live there and they might actually know what is happening in their own country? Oh wait, you know better what goes on there because you live in FRIGGIN JERSEY!
I did not say that that picture was not from 2005, it very likely is. I did also admit that the group was using propaganda. They probably used that footage because it is the only visual they have of the problem. Since the page is in Spanish I can only understand about 80% but the page doesn't say that it's Americans doing this, the people who live there and witness it have said this to my ex.
XoXo Gia
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Gia mentioned that she heard from sources that Americans were some of the people doing this, and that doesn't surprise me. I'm not anti American or anything, its just that this country has such a focus on hunting and fishing for sport, as well as safari hunting. I always assumed that was an American cultural thing, maybe I'm wrong. For the record, I'm a huge animal rights activist.





I only know what I looked up on the interweb. Even after it was pointed out that what was posted on Facebook was not in accordance with the facts you chose to believe the lies. Lies from a group that obviously has an agenda. I am just confused why you are furthering the agenda that is based on lies. Could it be to cast white American males in a bad light?
^^^ (No pun intended JD? Heh)
Sorry, but I have to bite.
While I have not seen the evidence that Gia references regarding Americans and Venezula, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Up until she posted this tread, I wasn't even aware of the story from back in 2005.
But on a larger point where did "white" and "male" come from? Are you just trying to toss lighter fluid on the flame? Come on.
If you are confused by a point, such as American's being involved, why not ask for clarification or a refrence source vs. trying to blow this up into something larger?
If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.
Exactly. Thanks Gia for informing those of us who were not already aware of this barbaric trend. All you can do is raise awareness and hopefully the wrong person will find out this information and put a stop to this.
OKAY!!!
Here is a You Tube video where the narrator specifically mentions "WEALTHY AMERICANS" in "VENEZUALA" using cats/kittens for live bait.
It may not be dogs, but close enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_xpJ3oxuI
Now I make no representation as to the validity of this video or level of propaganda that it represents. However, it does show that Gia's refrence was not completely baseless.
Let's please keep the discussion respectful. Thanks.
If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.





This was posted after it was proven that the dog in question was put in that position by African men. Now as we all know the only evil Americans are white men.
The dog in the video (that I can not watch) is alive,. And possibly the worst part of it, to me is that it's Americans doing this for Sport, not commercial fisherman.
Please don't project your sexist racist leanings on others. Geez.
Interesting since "we all" know this, that the producer's of the You Tube Video I just posted used a sun bathing woman in their first scene.
If you can't win. Make the fellow in front of you break the record.





Did you ever try to give a cat a bath? If so you know you better have protection for your hands as the cat will make you bleed. The a-holes that filmed this video did not have gloves on as they supposedly put the hook in the cat. The cat didn't move as no hook went in. Who was the clown that hung up the wet cat; she is the one being cruel to animals.
Cats only react like that when they're scared. My cat used to watch me take baths and sometimes jump in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Ha0D-iuVk
And yes, my cat was just like that!





Now this is real and is government sanctioned in Bolivia. Dog killed and its heart smeared on the face of military trainees.
I found this wile researching theync the name on the phony cat video. I would hope the same outrage is shown to Bolivia as is to America.





I don't recommend taking a stroll unarmed through the outback of Alaska, or the Everglades in Florida, or the Congo basin, or about 14,000 other wild places on this planet if you intend to hold on to that belief.
Sick practice of using live puppies and kittens if you ask me.
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When I said Americans were doing this I mean Americans are going down there and participating in this sport. I did not say here is a video of some bullies from Jersey putting a Golden Retriver out on 120 lb. line. The particular video that this one particular group used could very well be an old video. That is not the point . You're nit picking just to try to discredit what I have said just because you have nothing better to do.
If I started an anti-rasicm activist group and used footage from a 1925 lynching to describe that case in TX a few years back where a black man was lynched and dragged through the streets, until he died, would you post about how wrong I am and that you'd seen the footage before and someone couldn't possibly have been drug through the streets of TX because the footage I had was from another lynching? Even though the TX locals and several media outlets say otherwise? I think not.
Furthermore, don't speculate on what the group's agenda is. I have read the page, you have not.
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Yeah I gotta agree with this too!! The only charity I have on Direct Debit is an charity for endangered animals.
I didn't watch the video because even if it is fake, I know it would upset me too much. I can watch the goriest crime videos at school but throw an animal into the mix and I'm done. I will say that it sounds incredibly cruel though.





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