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    Default Good lies to tell family in order to get them to sign emancipation papers??

    ...without telling them that you strip.

    I don't want my parents to know where my money is coming from or why i'm making 50 grand a year, but i want to get them to sign emancipation papers so no one gets an audit and i can file all my taxes the right way

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    It's being discussed right now at:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    It's being discussed right now at:

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=132936
    i read thru that forum...thats not exactly why i'm trying to ask...

    i don't really want to tell them that i'm making any money at all if i don't have to. I just want them to sign the emancipation papers.

    Money could maybe not even be a reason to give them... or if it is a money lie, not be a job lie

    you kno what i mean??





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    Ms. Mia Roberts when you say emancipation papers what do you mean? I always thought once you were 18 you were considered an adult and 24 for school purposes. Are you trying to avoid having your parents claim you as a dependent on their taxes. If you are trying to avoid that and file yourself you might want to talk to a tax preparer. It is possible depending on your living situation that you wouldn't have to tell your parents a thing. My mom does taxes in PA so if you have any questions I could ask her or I can give you her # in a pm. Let me know if I'm understanding your situation correctly.
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    Default Re: Good lies to tell family in order to get them to sign emancipation papers??

    Are you under 18? Because if you are not, you're already emancipated. You've reached the age of majority and your parents no longer have control over anything that you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilynxoxo View Post
    Ms. Mia Roberts when you say emancipation papers what do you mean? I always thought once you were 18 you were considered an adult and 24 for school purposes. Are you trying to avoid having your parents claim you as a dependent on their taxes. If you are trying to avoid that and file yourself you might want to talk to a tax preparer. It is possible depending on your living situation that you wouldn't have to tell your parents a thing. My mom does taxes in PA so if you have any questions I could ask her or I can give you her # in a pm. Let me know if I'm understanding your situation correctly.
    Yes, i'm 18 and living far from home, but i read in the dollar den that if i am under 24 and going to school, my parents would still be claiming me.

    I don't want them to claim me anymore, but i read there was only 3 options

    1) would be taking time off of school, and getting welfare

    or 2) having my parents sign the papers

    or 3) taking my parents to court

    Option 3 is out the window

    taking a semester off and getting on welfare briefly to emancipate myself as an independent is still an option...but like you guys could imagine, sounds very tedious and shaky

    Option 2, getting them to sign the emancipation papers, seems like the best way to go... but i have ran into the problem of figuring out what to tell them the reason WHY is....

    can any1 help?





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    Are they paying for your schooling or are you paying for it?

    If they are paying for it I would consider it unfair for you to want to claim yourself... I mean they are going to need all the tax deductions they can get with the price of college these days!

    If you are paying for school just tell them that you really need the money from the tax return and you'd like to claim yourself so you can get a tax refund.

    You don't have to be emancipated to claim yourself, you just need to make sure you don't claim yourself while your parents are still claiming you.
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    I don't think that they can claim you on their taxes, if that's what you're asking. You're not living in their home and you're over 18. Unless they're supporting you and paying for your college they have no right to claim you.

    I think what you're confused about is financial aid. Your parent's income still factors into determining your eligibility for financial aid until you're 24.

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    ^^^ If she's in college they can.

    http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/news/20040130a1.asp

    #6 If the parents are paying 50% or more of the college student's expenses than they are entitled to claim the student as a dependent.
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    Default Re: Good lies to tell family in order to get them to sign emancipation papers??

    Even if they're not paying a dime for her schooling and she's fully supporting herself? Wow, then that's a really fucked up law that bad parents probably exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Are they paying for your schooling or are you paying for it?

    If they are paying for it I would consider it unfair for you to want to claim yourself... I mean they are going to need all the tax deductions they can get with the price of college these days!

    If you are paying for school just tell them that you really need the money from the tax return and you'd like to claim yourself so you can get a tax refund.

    You don't have to be emancipated to claim yourself, you just need to make sure you don't claim yourself while your parents are still claiming you.
    My mom has helped a lil but because of our bad relationship, i cannot rely on her to pay all the bills ontime... so i plan to pay for it myself.... and sometimes she will get behind in bills to "punish me"

    My parents will claim me if i'm a dependant because that's more tax money back in their pockets... even if i am paying for everything myself... "if they can, they will"... so i just want to make sure i do everything so that they CAN'T

    thats a good one tho, the rebate one





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post

    #6 If the parents are paying 50% or more of the college student's expenses than they are entitled to claim the student as a dependent.
    You know, I can see them being able to if that's the case, that seems fair. College is expensive.

    Cripes though, maybe you could tell them that you need to be emancipated so you can get more financial aid? Or tell them that if you're emancipated you'll qualify for a pell grant or something along those lines?

    I'm trying to think of a good reason to need to be emancipated... I hope it works out for whatever you do.

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    ^^^ She doesn't need to be emancipated to claim herself - but she DOES need to convince them not to claim her.

    Mia, you may also want to talk to a tax adviser. I'm not sure if this is possible but you *may* be able to file your taxes separate from your parents and just not even claim yourself - so you would claim "0" instead of 1. If you could do that then your parents wouldn't know you are dancing, but the government would still get their tax money so you wouldn't have problems in the future with tax evasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    ^^^ If she's in college they can.

    http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/news/20040130a1.asp

    #6 If the parents are paying 50% or more of the college student's expenses than they are entitled to claim the student as a dependent.
    So does this mean that if i am paying for all of college.... i will automatically become a dependant?

    and how would the IRS/ school know this?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    ^^^ She doesn't need to be emancipated to claim herself - but she DOES need to convince them not to claim her.

    Mia, you may also want to talk to a tax adviser. I'm not sure if this is possible but you *may* be able to file your taxes separate from your parents and just not even claim yourself - so you would claim "0" instead of 1. If you could do that then your parents wouldn't know you are dancing, but the government would still get their tax money so you wouldn't have problems in the future with tax evasion.
    I was thinking that too, but melonie said on the dollar den that if i have an income that is over 50 percent, then i would have problems claiming dependant

    plus...there is no way in fuck that i could explain 50 grand a year to my parents to get them to to file it on the household income

    so being indpendant right now seems like the only option





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    Hey Ms. Mia I actually just talked to my mom- As long as you are paying over half the cost of your own support your parents are not supposed to claim you. It doesn't matter if you are under 24. If they try to put you in their tax return and you have already filed your own the gov. will contact you both and they would have to prove that they supported you. Your best bet it to file your taxes early and make sure you have proof like leases, school records and such that you have been taking care of yourself. I hope this helps.
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    You need to speak to a tax attorney/advisor. You can not be claimed twice, so while it is perfectly legit for you to claim yourself given your situation, if your parents claim you someone is going to be in trouble (ie. audited). Given your relationship with your parents it sounds like you're going to have a tough time convinicing them to do anything that benefits you and not them. A tax attorney will be able to help more than we can I think. You need to know what your options are.

    Either way, you don't need them to sign emancipation papers, you aren't a minor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilynxoxo View Post
    Hey Ms. Mia I actually just talked to my mom- As long as you are paying over half the cost of your own support your parents are not supposed to claim you. It doesn't matter if you are under 24. If they try to put you in their tax return and you have already filed your own the gov. will contact you both and they would have to prove that they supported you. Your best bet it to file your taxes early and make sure you have proof like leases, school records and such that you have been taking care of yourself. I hope this helps.
    OMG....that helps so much. thank you!!! so i will just contact my mother and let her know that i am paying for school myself and just tell her not to claim me... and i won't need her to sign any papers


    just one more question though. If my mom decides to go against me and claim me anyway, i know we will both be contacted but will I be penalized, or just my parents?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    So does this mean that if i am paying for all of college.... i will automatically become a dependant?

    and how would the IRS/ school know this?
    If you are under 24 and are in school as far as financial aid is concerned you are NOT independent unless you are emancipated. Period. That means when it's time to file your financial aid again you will need to have the tax records from both you and your parents listed on the paperwork. That really shouldn't be a problem unless your parents have their hands into your school business. Otherwise just ask them to sign the financial aid form and get a copy of their taxes, then get your taxes and fill out the form with both of your information.

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    I was thinking that too, but melonie said on the dollar den that if i have an income that is over 50 percent, then i would have problems claiming dependant

    plus...there is no way in fuck that i could explain 50 grand a year to my parents to get them to to file it on the household income

    so being indpendant right now seems like the only option
    Huh? Can you link us to what Melonie said? I just said the same thing I believe - that whoever (you or your parents) pays for more than 50% of your schooling expenses gets to claim you.

    Remember that earning 50K a year does NOT mean that you are paying more than 50% of your school expenses. You need to add up all those expenses and figure out if you or your parents get to claim you.

    Honestly, talk to a tax adviser - they will be able to help you out a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    You need to speak to a tax attorney/advisor. You can not be claimed twice, so while it is perfectly legit for you to claim yourself given your situation, if your parents claim you someone is going to be in trouble (ie. audited). Given your relationship with your parents it sounds like you're going to have a tough time convinicing them to do anything that benefits you and not them. A tax attorney will be able to help more than we can I think. You need to know what your options are.

    Either way, you don't need them to sign emancipation papers, you aren't a minor.
    Yes, i plan on getting one once i have a semi-steady income.... i couldn't imagine doing taxes on my own





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    I just one more question though. If my mom decides to go against me and claim me anyway, i know we will both be contacted but will I be penalized, or just my parents?
    The person who DIDN'T have the right to claim you would be penalized. That could be you or your parents depending on who is paying more than 50% of your school expenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    just one more question though. If my mom decides to go against me and claim me anyway, i know we will both be contacted but will I be penalized, or just my parents?
    An audit would determine who wrongly claimed who. Depending on who they decided had the right to claim you (your parents or you) the person that didn't would be penalized. There are certain credits and things you get if you claim yourself, and certain credits your parents get if they get to claim you. If the credits are taken away it changes the amount of tax owed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Mia Roberts View Post
    OMG....that helps so much. thank you!!! so i will just contact my mother and let her know that i am paying for school myself and just tell her not to claim me... and i won't need her to sign any papers


    just one more question though. If my mom decides to go against me and claim me anyway, i know we will both be contacted but will I be penalized, or just my parents?
    As long as you are truly supporting yourself you would not be penalized. I don't think the IRS really places too much of a penalty as much as they just correct the rebate- if there is one. No matter how old you are as long as you are making ANY money you are technically required to file your own tax return it really is just a matter of what you qualify for based on how your money is spent. Another thing my mom said is that if you file electronically your social security # will only be recognized once. So if you file first claiming yourself as an independent your parents would have to file the old fashioned way on paper and mail it in to claim you too. But if they would file first (although this doesn't seem likely as you are already thinking about it lol) you can fix any wrongful claim they have made by doing your own on paper. Like everyone says it is a good idea to talk to a professional. They can give you the best advice and also will be able to tell you exactly what you are eligible for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    If you are under 24 and are in school as far as financial aid is concerned you are NOT independent unless you are emancipated. Period. That means when it's time to file your financial aid again you will need to have the tax records from both you and your parents listed on the paperwork. That really shouldn't be a problem unless your parents have their hands into your school business. Otherwise just ask them to sign the financial aid form and get a copy of their taxes, then get your taxes and fill out the form with both of your information.



    Huh? Can you link us to what Melonie said? I just said the same thing I believe - that whoever (you or your parents) pays for more than 50% of your schooling expenses gets to claim you.

    Remember that earning 50K a year does NOT mean that you are paying more than 50% of your school expenses. You need to add up all those expenses and figure out if you or your parents get to claim you.

    Honestly, talk to a tax adviser - they will be able to help you out a lot.
    My parents aren't paying for school. i will be. but if my parents can file me as an dependant, they will. and i will be making over 50 percent of the "household income" plus paying for 100 percent schooling expenses.

    so according to marilynxoxo, they would be breaking the law if they claimed me...

    and the link is for a thread titled, "how to get financial aid as a stripper" ...i gotta find the specific link





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    If you are under 24 and are in school as far as financial aid is concerned you are NOT independent unless you are emancipated. Period. That means when it's time to file your financial aid again you will need to have the tax records from both you and your parents listed on the paperwork. That really shouldn't be a problem unless your parents have their hands into your school business. Otherwise just ask them to sign the financial aid form and get a copy of their taxes, then get your taxes and fill out the form with both of your information.
    That is a fact. I jumped through so many fucking hoops with this crap. I even once tried to lie and tell them I was an orphan and they told me I still would need a guardian's tax information.

    And I was 23 YEARS OLD.

    Ugh.

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