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    Having asked around, it seems like most of the girls at my club tip the dj about 10% of what they made. He also gets paid an hourly rate. If there are 6 girls working, he's getting about 60% of the average girl's rate (total) plus his hourly rate. I don't know what his hourly rate is, but it seems like he's making about as much as an average girl. This seems extremely unfair considering all he's doing is sitting there changing the music.
    Now, the amount I tip him is entirely up to me and I don't think he really deserves as much as he gets, but at the same time I want to maintain a good work environment, which includes not alienating myself from the staff. Do you think the amount he's getting is fair? Should I just ignore my complaints and tip as the other girls do?

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    Ummm...My personal feelings on ANY man who works in the SC is this: They are either there to get "paid" or there to get to "laid". Never, ever take for granted an average, or even above average (I've worked with a few who ROCKED!!!) dj until you have worked with one that is a pervert. Ex. Tells you you don't have to tip him if he can lick your ass. Working as a dj in a strip club is not as easy as you think.

    Rememeber, people think you have an easy job also. They have to deal with bitchy stripper drama and in some clubs must provide their own music and at times play bouncer. CD's and internet downloads are not cheap.

    Another reason not to take a good dj for granted- go to one of those sites where guys review sc's and you WILL see comments about how good/ bad the music is, which is a part of the overall atmosphere of the club, which has to do with people visiting your club, which has to do with YOUR money.

    Do I think the amount he's getting is fair? If he's there to get "paid" absolutely! There's no one (except MAYBE the champagne waitress) to have in your corner like the DJ. I worked with dj's that I consistently tipped $40, $50, Even $120 plus (even if it was more than 10%). Believe me you will always get it back!

    If he's there to get "laid". Hell no! Give him the min. and treat him with a decent amount of respect. Sorry so long, trying to help the noobs!
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    Default Re: Tip Outs

    Last club i worked at the dj made 100/night plus 25$ from each girl mandatory, plus whatever they wanted to give to him.

    Other clubs ive been at, 10% is pretty average.


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    The two clubs I work at go by how many dances you sell (1 is $1 per dance, but you also have four other people to tip out for every dance. The other is $2, but you only have to tip the DJ).

    It depends on the dj and how much I make, how much I got tipped. If he was an ass, skipped me, played the wrong music, constantly called me up when I was talking to customers... I'm going to tip him a $1 a dance, maybe even short him a couple.

    If he was an awesome dj... did my lights well, skipped me when I was talking to customers, gave my advice on who was buying dances or eyeing me, played me some good new music... I'll tip him more, maybe $2 or $3 or more per dance. But I wouldn't tip the DJ $40 out of a $400 night unless he REALLY helped me out.

    It really depends on what I make though. If I make a bunch in tips and am selling a bunch of dances, I'm going to hook him up. If I'm scraping by with $150 after tipping a 1/1.50 per dance, sorry, no matter how good of a dj you are I'm not giving you an extra $20.

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    I would tip an average of what the other girls tip-if they tip 10%, I would tip close to it. If the DJ does an excellent job (promotes me, helps me out, skips me when I am in a champagne room...basically doesn't screw it up) then I might tip a bit extra,depending on how well I did that night.

    That being said, if I only made 100-150, I am not going to give him extra $$, just the minimum. If I did really well, like 600+, I might slip him a bit more.
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    Yeah...it depends on how much work/engineering you see the DJ doing. For our club, our DJ's (generally) don't download new music, don't do anything with the lights, and don't tip us off for good customers. So I also pay the minimum tipout. Usually our DJ's are doing shots with their friends between the times they speak on the mike.

    Shrugs. Hard for me to justify giving the money I hustle up to these guys. Maybe that makes me look like an asshole, but I've never seen any benefit from tipping them more (we choose our own music, so all they have to do is go "Introducing ___" every now and then.)

    It depends on what you think they deserve. If you think your DJ might help you, then you might try testing him with higher tipouts and encourage good behavior. Say things like "Hey, I really appreciate you skipping me tonight while I was hustling" or "Thanks for putting on the right music for the crowd" or "thanks for tipping me off about the high roller"...and tip him a bit extra. You might be able to train him to work for you. Otherwise he might just assume that you'll pay him a flat rate no matter what he does. Just a suggestion though.

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    ^^^^ Good advice. You know when I used to work at clubs in "more remote" places, the dj's did a lot less!
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    I've never understood some of the ridiculous tipouts for dj's, especially if they make a salary. My experience has been many weren't that good. I couldn't begin to mention all of the dj's I worked wth who were awful and should have been fired. Many of these dj's were often relatives of the owner or some person they hired cheap. One dj was a pimp and trying to get girls to work for him! I actually got suspended from one club because I refused to tip out. Why did I refuse? because he screwed up my music (I had it written exactly how and when I wanted certain songs played), he let other girls use my music (without my permission), he was trying to get dates from all the girls, and he was making nasty comments about other dancers.

    Having said that, I have overtipped good djs. I have no problems with those who work hard for the pay. They recommend new music, customers, really sell the dances, etc. Having worked as a dj (both in clubs and on the air), I respect those who are good because it's a skill. Those who suck are a disgrace to club dj's.
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    Yes, exactly! That goes back to the "are you here to get paid or to get laid? Principle!
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    My personal feeling is don't ever take your DJ for granted. Even if the DJ is just "okay" tip them what you're supposed to or what the other girls are, even if it's not mandatory. A lot of DJs keep a better eye on things than what you think, including an estimate of what you earned to make sure you are tipping fairly. If you opt not to tip or to tip less you can expect that most DJs will start making snide remarks and playing bad music when they know you are on the stage. It's not worth being harassed by a DJ just because you *thought* he didn't deserve the tip.
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    ^^ that's exactly it. My old DJ used to do that to girls he didn't like-he would play crappy music, once even went so bold as to play "Who let the Dogs out" on one girl...

    Try to not piss off your DJ just because you think he doesn't deserve a good tip. He (or she) can get revenge.
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    Our DJ tip-out is $5 each per girl, regardless of what you make. Of course, if you rake in obscene amounts one night it's expected you might bump the tip up a bit, but most girls always stick to the $5. Our weekend DJ gets the job done but he doesn't make an extra effort to get songs you ask for etc, so I feel we're even. I love our weekday DJ and we always have good chats, so if I have a good day I'll give him a bit more.


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    The standard is 10% at my club but most of the girls are giving him a flat tip of $20 on average nights, $40 on good nights, and $10 on bad nights. I follow this model. I think 10% is a lot to tip out considering you tip everyone else on top of paying the house.

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    At our club we aren't required to tip the dj. Our dj gets I think about 6.50 an hour. We tip out $10 or 10% of our earnings (if you make $200 you are supposed to tip out $20). The dj doesn't actually get all of that. The club gets 50% of that while the dj splits the rest with the doorman and the lot guy if we have one. I usually tip out 10% on top of my tipout if I've had a good night.

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    I understand that there are a lot of bad djs out there, but to say that all he's doing is sitting there changing the music is to do him a great disservice in general. That's like saying that all you do is stand around/dance around and look pretty.

    Being even a half-way decent strip club dj is a skilled job. A knowledgable dj can completely control a room just by his music timing and attitude on the mike. He has to keep in mind what is going to make YOU happy, what is going to make the CROWD happy, and what is going to make the MANAGEMENT/OWNER happy, all at the same time. He has to control what I call the 'arc' of the night - keeping the energy on a flow from the start of his shift until the end. For example; it's not a good idea if you are playing the last few songs of the night to play something that is angry or over-energizing to the customers..you are likely to have fights on the way out the door. Did you know if you hit people with too much base that also has been proven to motivate agressive behavior?? These are things a dj should and has to think about and keep in mind.

    He needs to usually be fairly proficent in a light board setup, in how to deal with the equipment (amps, electrical, sub cabinets, etc.); how to work with a computer system and whatever dj program it is running at that club (there are about five diffferent ones in common use). Some djs bring in their own laptops, some bring in their own hard drives; some still use cds - in which case they usually have to wrangle with whatever cd player is in the booth. Denon cd players were the ones of choice before computers took over, and they are NOTORIOUS for crapping out and taking forever to fix.

    Then he's got managers up his ass to get specials announced; get their fave girls either on or off rotation, or to bitch because some girl bitched at him and the manager either wants to take it out on someone else. Or, to make sure the dj understands what ever it is that he did wrong; etc. The dj also has girls constantly running up into the booth to ask for songs or bitch about what he played or didn't play, or how her lights were run or not; or to hit on him (or not). Then there's the customers who think he's got the greatest job on earth and try to get him to hook them up with a stripper, or they sit in the booth and talk his ear off, etc. etc.

    Again, believe me, after having danced since '94 I know there are an absolute ton of shit djs out there, and it is only getting worse - for many of the same reasons there are more dumbass girls getting into the biz every day. But it is worth being aware of what separates a good dj from a bad one, and to understand (mostly by observing) how much a good dj can do for you as a dancer, and what he can do for a club. Sure, it seems like a great job - but so does being a touring rock star musician. There is always more to the story than meets the eye.

    10% has always been the industry standard. I never tip less than that unless I have been treated with the utmost disrespect - and I think that's happened maybe twice. No matter how the dj acts, I am a professional and am going to act and tip accordingly. Just MHO, of course.
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    ^ I agree, good DJ's who work at clubs with nice equipment can do crazy-cool/helpful stuff if they have incentives. On the other hand, clubs like my club don't allow for 99% of all the things you listed up there (light controls, etc), so I think 10% would be a crazy amount to tip. We have to tip out $20 to the DJ, and I think that's more than fair considering how little he/she has to do (we even pick our own music).

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    Actually, charlie, I just came back to amend my post because I realize that fully half the clubs talked about on this board probably don't have all the things I listed, so yes..I can understand your point.

    Also, about the 10%...if I am working somewhere steady, I usually end up getting in the habit of tipping what you do, around $15 or $20 no matter how much I make. I just never really tip less unless the dj has been horribly disrispectful, or if I have had a negative night. Of course, if I have a negative night I usually overtip the next time so that it all comes out even. I adhere to the 10% rule if I make over $200.

    I also realize that I sounded a little snotty in bolding the "I" in that last sentence..I meant that I would be professional as opposed to the dj who was not being so, not that I was more professional than the girls who posted. Sorry if that came off wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papillonluvr View Post
    ^^ that's exactly it. My old DJ used to do that to girls he didn't like-he would play crappy music, once even went so bold as to play "Who let the Dogs out" on one girl...

    Try to not piss off your DJ just because you think he doesn't deserve a good tip. He (or she) can get revenge.
    haha i dont even know what i would do if a dj played who let the dogs out...

    theres nothing worse than pissing a dj off... being skipped when people are tipping, being put up out of rotation when you're talking to a customer constantly. but honestly, at this point im making $300 on a really good night after tip outs and fees and that's tipping $1-2 a dance (i have five people to tip out, a drink quota, house fee, cut from dances,
    and a valet charge). i generally keep about 55% of what I make. i dont know any girls that tip out 10% at my club unless they really banked. i would love to tip out my djs more i honestly just cant afford the 10% tip and pay all my bills...

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