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    Default Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    While I don't advise posting on them as the reaction you get may be no different than what guys experience on pink here [though there will be fawners and BLTs], it is a good idea for dancers, particularly newbies, to check out web sites popular with customers of strip-clubs.

    1) You get an idea of how different types of customers think. This is always a good thing as knowledge is power.

    2) You can find out, sometimes rather easily, what clubs in your area are dealing in extras. This allows you to make informed decisions about where to work. Either drawing to these clubs if you are seeking a place which is extras friendly, or allowing you to avoid them if you do not want to work where extras may be the norm.

    3) Reviews of strip-clubs may also tell you what kind of money is found there. Though this is likely to be indirect and a little more difficult to figure out from the posts made.

    Sites like Z-Bones [whose been around since the old Usenet alt.sex.strip-clubs days], and stripclublist.com to name only two are designed for men but can be a dancer's best friend.

    Besides websites there are all sorts of groups on Yahoo and MSN dedicated to passing around info about strip-clubs in different locations. These two can make interesting and valuable reading for dancers.

    I advise all the men I know who go to strip-clubs, especially new guys, to come to SW to read what dancers truly think about their customers and to learn what makes you all tick. I suggest nothing less to dancers about making it a point to read up on what customers, what makes them tick and what they have to say about dancers.

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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    If I want to get creeped out and angry I'll just google images of burn victims or shark attacks, thanks. The guys that post on those forums are usually hobbiest that chase mileage - and try to get as much as they can spending as little as possible. It's best to avoid those customers, and try not to think about them. After seeing a few pages of that offensive bullshit, most girls would go into work pissed. It will really fuck with a dancer's money to sit down with a guy and keep wondering, "Does he expect me to do xyz? Is he gonna bitch about the price? Did Bubbles really give a BBBJCIM to someone? What if..."

    What is with you trying to tell the dancers here how to do their jobs? You're not a stripper. You're not even an adverage customer - you do the private party thing and not so much the strip club thing. And you're more into extras girls and escorts - which most of us here are not. It's getting really annoying.

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    Hobbiests believe that every woman on the face of the earth should be bent over offering her ass up for them for $20 or less. They also think that those of us who don't do this are just naive and haven't figured out how to make "real" money yet.

    I run a financial domination site and consistently have hobbiests email me to tell me how fucking stupid I am and how I'll never make a dime, and how they can't wait to see me on the corner sucking dick for a quarter, because obviously, that's the only way a woman can make any kind of "real" money...by giving 25 cent blowjobs... Some of these guys even pay 3.99 a minute to tell me how fucking stupid I am. That's right, they're paying about 240 an hour to tell me that if I had a brain I'd be charging $100 bucks an hour to fuck gross old men.

    You can't reason with them. They are bitter and angry and despise the female sex because they have to pay them in order to be able to screw an attractive woman. The only women they can get without paying are ones on their own level and that makes them hateful. They think that we should be so grateful to have the opportunity to be paid for sex that we should accept less than we would make for just dancing, or just talking on the phone, or just web camming, or just being a fucking waitress.

    In other words, they're douchebags.

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    ^^^ Agreed, they are douchebags. I do use stripclublist to avoid dirty extras clubs however. Some good info on there as they tend to review many more clubs than most dancer sites... I do recommend a glass of wine or a valium before attempting to wade through the murk however.

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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    This is an awesome thread. Marvel Girl, you are my heroine today!!!


    I wouldn't advise newbies to check out those sites, maybe a more seasoned dancer form time to time SHOULD check them out, but take it with a grain of salt.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    I don't know if this is such a good idea. Many people find that their enjoyment of the strip club experience (either dancer or customer) is sullied by too much reality.

    It is funny how people will react to information. For instance, I went to a new club and was doing great, selling lots of dances and having a generally good time. At the end of my shift, the house girls told me that all the guys I danced for that night were cheap-ass regulars that never tip and never buy dances and wondered what my secret was to get these guys to spend.

    I actually asked them for dances. I didn't ignore them or write them off as a "lost cause" because I didn't know their reputations before working that day.

    Sometimes a little ignorance can pay off.


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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    The comments on SCL are so exaggerated it's ridiculous. Definitely take it with a grain of salt.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    In my experience, that is NOT good idea. Yeah, the guys on there...definitely douchebags of the highest order. Secondly, I don't think it's really even a great way to find out what clubs are dirty. I'm pretty certain the guys on there seriously exaggerate what kind of services they're getting. There are plenty of dirtbags out there who like to get back at a dancer who pissed them off by posting things like "Hey! Holly at club so-and-so gives blowjobs for $10! And she'll totally let you finger her during a private dance! Check it out!" when they know damn well she does not, just as a way of fucking things up for her.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    *shrugs*

    I kind of thought it was common sense to check out those sites, and of course common sense to take them with a whole shaker full of salt. If one has been in the biz for any decent amount of time and has been observant, one can figure out that some to most of the comments by the gentlemen on these sites are coming from a certain point of view, and to relate to them as such. After awhile one should be able to glean a decent amount of info from even a 'bad' or 'good' review from some of these perspectives.

    It's unfortunate but true that sometimes these sites are the only basis for semi-current info on any given club, and you have to rely on them. This is another reason sites like stripperweb are invaluable.

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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    I agree that those sites need to be taken with a grain of salt.

    Quote Originally Posted by lildreamer316 View Post
    *shrugs*
    This is another reason sites like stripperweb are invaluable.
    If you are referring to the club section for dancers... it would be a lot more valuable if it were updated by dancers more often! ::HINT - HINT::

    I actually contribute to TUSCL every once in awhile when I am looking for clubs. If you post a review they give you a free membership to read all of the posts for a month. If the dancers here updated the reviews better I would probably just get my reviews here - but that isn't how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I agree that those sites need to be taken with a grain of salt.


    If you are referring to the club section for dancers... it would be a lot more valuable if it were updated by dancers more often! ::HINT - HINT::
    I would love to update it with several reviews but since there is no way to do it annonymously I won't contribute.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    ...sometimes those "non-regular" posters are dancers, their friends, managers, and staff and they post "as a customer" raving about their club and the girls. Then to sway customers to their club, they will post "as a customer" about another club saying its nasty, has poor service, has ugly dancers, or tell a ripoff story. Of course, they sometimes name dancers (themselves or friends) trying to boost their income/ego or to slander some other dancer. So yes, take with a grain of salt.

    G_R, i couldn't help think about it but your post seemed to bring this kind of reaction from some girls. hahaha.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    JayATee: Perhaps you want to suggest to Pryce that he create a method to protect a dancer's identity in the SW club review section. I do understand why a dancer might have privacy concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    I would love to update it with several reviews but since there is no way to do it annonymously I won't contribute.
    You can always create a second account that's not linked to your first. The only person that may know is Pryce... if he pays attention to the IP addresses.

    I do agree though, an anonymous system would be nice. My username on TUSCL is very non-descript, so I don't feel bad posting my opinions about clubs on it.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    Good advice. I always check stripclublist.com, tuscl.net, and bestgfe.com (primarily an escort review board but with a section for SC's).

    Even though some of the reports on there may be exaggerated, wholly untrue, or vindictive rage-fests.... if you know how to read between the lines you can gather some seriously valuable information. Knowledge is power, ya know?

    Even the dinky ratings on SCL give you a general idea of how customers enjoy the club.... if the club has a 1.9 rating out of a possible 10 you can be pretty sure that the word of mouth about that club will be just as lackluster.... which will probably result in fewer guys walking through the door.... spending less $$$.... and contributing to a gnarly atmosphere all around. Snowball effect anyone?

    Of course, it can also be said that "dirtier" clubs with more "bang for the buck" can steal the top spots on many-a-list.... but like I said if you read the reviews, ratings, comments etc. you can at least make an educated guess and find a comfortable club (for you) that is fun and enjoyable for the custies, too.

    Plus it's always a treat to find good reviews written about your stripper persona.
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    Default Re: Dancers should check out the male based web sites...

    im considering making an anonymous account so i can add to the reviews, but like jayatee said, i just havent reviewed anything because i cant do it anonymously.

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    I tried suggesting in the thread for club and reviews but got no response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    im considering making an anonymous account so i can add to the reviews, but like jayatee said, i just havent reviewed anything because i cant do it anonymously.

    It's been suggested by myself and several other members over the years... what you can do is send your review to one of the mods and they will post it for you anonymously or under their name and probably add a note saying "reviewed by a trusted member who wishes to remain anonymous."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    If I want to get creeped out and angry I'll just google images of burn victims or shark attacks, thanks. The guys that post on those forums are usually hobbiest that chase mileage - and try to get as much as they can spending as little as possible.
    And even if that were the case, and I don't think it is entirely, it wouldn't be educational - even beneficial - since they make up a sizable amount of the customer pool, to learn how they think and act so that it can be used in valid and dynamic sales approaches to earnestly, but without trickery, separate them from their money in a way where they don't get precisely what they want but are satisfied and you make big bank?

    What is with you trying to tell the dancers here how to do their jobs?
    I'm not trying to tell anyone anything, if what you mean by that is I am doing more than expressing an opinion. It is my belief that informed people make better decisions and cause less trouble. Particularly in environments like strip-clubs, where it is easy to misinterpret intentions in the first place.

    Seems rather straight forward but if you disagree that certainly is your right. Though I would ask you to not incorrectly identify my motives in the process. That seems a fair request to me.

    It's getting really annoying.
    First let me truly say I am sorry if you are annoyed.

    Then let me say that I try to apply the, "Neither be too easily annoying or too easily annoyed.", method of getting on with others.

    Now, since this area is open to people like myself and I am making an effort to be positive in the nature of my posting I would ask you to consider, please and sincerely, that in this case if you are annoyed it might be you being too thin skinned and not me going out of my way to be annoying.

    If you gave the above any sincere thought I appreciate it and thank you for the courtesy.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    It's been suggested by myself and several other members over the years... what you can do is send your review to one of the mods and they will post it for you anonymously or under their name and probably add a note saying "reviewed by a trusted member who wishes to remain anonymous."
    Oh cool. I had no idea. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    Hobbiests believe that every woman on the face of the earth should be bent over offering her ass up for them for $20 or less. They also think that those of us who don't do this are just naive and haven't figured out how to make "real" money yet.
    And I think every male customer who actually thinks that way is a gold mine waiting to be earnestly and honestly, without deception, separated from their money. Without having to actually provide any extras in the process.

    This is a sales business. Knowing two things are absolutely essential to any sales business. Knowledge of your product line and knowledge of your customer base.

    All I am suggesting is getting to know how your customers think and pointing out that they, themselves, have put everything you need to know about them in writing just waiting for you to read it.

    Now why saying that would ruffle any one's feathers I truly don't understand.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    ^^^ Agreed, they are douchebags. I do use stripclublist to avoid dirty extras clubs however. Some good info on there as they tend to review many more clubs than most dancer sites... I do recommend a glass of wine or a valium before attempting to wade through the murk however.
    Precisely part and parcel of what I suggested as well. That these sites, where customers speak candidly of what they do within the clubs, will help dancers AVOID clubs they don't want to work at because the environment doesn't suit them.

    [And again, a notion I can't understand any dancer objecting to, or getting mad at me for saying it?]
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post


    If you are referring to the club section for dancers... it would be a lot more valuable if it were updated by dancers more often! ::HINT - HINT::
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    It would be great itself if the site was updated! Most of the clubs I would like to review aren't even listed, some of which have been around for 3 years. I sent an email notifying them of this months ago. Until then, I can't write anymore reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post

    All I am suggesting is getting to know how your customers think and pointing out that they, themselves, have put everything you need to know about them in writing just waiting for you to read it.
    Except that's not really our customer base. It's a very small segment of our customer base, and the least appealing demographic. It's largely populated by guys who want to get the most by spending the least. Those customers are timewaster at best. They're best avoided.

    I've been to so many of those review sites, and if I took them seriously at all, that would mean that every single club I've been to is practically a whorehouse, and I know for a fact that's not true.

    +1 on the being irritated by non-dancers offering advice on how to do our jobs. It's always either ridiculously obvious, or downright wrong.

    Sure, there may be some kernal of truth or wisdom to be found on those sites. But not enough to warrant the mountains of BS one must swim through. With so many better ways to get that info (This site, other dancer review sites, word of mouth, a quick pop in) there's really no reason to bother. The clientelle that spends time on those sites are not the kind of customers a dancer really wants to deal with, and their opinions are therefore useless.
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