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    It's been "bad" for awhile, but I've grown to accept it and have made adjustments (working more shifts, spending less) to counteract. Well, this week was literally the worst week I've seen money-wise in at least years. On all but one shift this week we had more girls than the TOTAL customer count for the day. I'm talking 12 girls and 9 customers (combined over the shift).

    So on one of these days, I'm sitting at the bar, staring into space. I usually try to look busy by talking to another girl, walking around, etc.. but I ran out of random shit to do and wound up just sitting. This guy, probably early 50s, comes in and sits down next to me. He asks me why I'm sitting all alone. I say something cheesey like "I was waiting for you" with an obvious "haha" or something. He smiles and seems interested.

    Then we have what I'll call the "economy conversation" I wind up having with 75% of the customers right now, no matter how hard I try to avoid it. He starts asking me why it's so slow, when will it pick up, etc etc.... I try to give him non "doomsday" answers, but my patience is growing thin. At some point I hear that I'm next on stage. I tell him and he's like "oh good".

    I go on stage and during my third song he finally walks over and hands me a dollar. Tells me how beautiful I am, that I'm a great dancer, etc. After my set I walk back over to his seat at the bar and thank him for the tip. He says "please sit" and I do. I'm hoping this will be the point where he buys me a drink (I don't drink a lot at work, but Its a good indicator of interest sometimes) or he will show inclination towards dances.

    What happens over the next 5-10 minutes, is he starts talking about his job. Particularly the fact that he's tired of having meetings with men who just want to "talk to him" and aren't really interested in buying anything. He went on and on about how rude it is for these people to waste his time. I finally got tired of the irony and said something like "yeah I know EXACTLY how you feel". So then he starts telling me how he USED to tip well and he USED to buy dances, but he just can't "justify" the expense now. Then, OF COURSE, he starts mentioning how us girls "still do ok though, right?" .......................... he's like "oh, but you still make good money...."

    are you fucking kidding me?

    I finally excused myself from him and he informed me he'd "be back tomorrow". oh GOODIE. >_<

    Do these people REALLY just not "get it"? or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    Then, OF COURSE, he starts mentioning how us girls "still do ok though, right?" .......................... he's like "oh, but you still make good money...."
    This is him justifying to himself that it's ok that he just completely and totally wasted your time because OTHER ppl will come in later on and tip you (that's why he asked if it would get busier) and he can go home with a clear conscience.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    Do these people REALLY just not "get it"? or what?
    I'm gonna venture out there and say he knew exactly what he was doing. He got a gorgeous, young females attention for the princely sum of 1 dollar. Im sure he's quite proud of himself actually.
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    Uhhhggg.... yeah I know. I'm just so sick of how common it's become. Toward the end of the conversation I -did- manage to tell him how I hear the same thing from most guys lately. This was after he kept insisting I make good money.

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    Shit like this is exactly why I'm quitting. Sorry you're dealing with it too.

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    Well I'll also say (and you know this too) that 99% of the guys these days are completely clueless about the SC and how it works. Stripper = Tons of "FREE" cash to them. So that's also why he was probably so insistent that you make such "good" money. You don't need him, you have soooo many other guys tipping you. He probably feels like he even did you a favor tipping you at all.
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    No, they don't get it. Just avoid him or tell him that in the past the dancers made a lot of their earnings from lap dances and that when customers don't buy dances we struggle just like everyone else when sales don't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    No, they don't get it. Just avoid him or tell him that in the past the dancers made a lot of their earnings from lap dances and that when customers don't buy dances we struggle just like everyone else when sales don't happen.
    I usually ignore these types to begin with, it's just difficult when there's not really anyone else to go to/no excuse to get away. Also, our General Manager was there and I didn't want to "walk away too soon" in fear of getting talked to about it.

    I did bring it up to him, that we only make money when customers spend it. The real irritating part is that HE said to ME "you guys pay to work here right? and tip the dj?" Yes.... so if you KNOW that?????



    Oh, I also had to keep pulling away from him a little bit because he was trying to rub my leg or side while I was sitting there. I'm sure that doesn't surprise anyone. It's funny to me how the cheap guys are almost ALWAYS the handsy ones. It's on very very rare occasion I get a big spender who's all octopus hands.

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    The week after the 4th of July and the week between Christmas and New Year's are often awful. I never work them anymore. Those are my two weeks of vacation for the year.

    That guy was an idiot, btw.

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    ^Maybe I will skip tonight then afterall....
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    Well, the weekDAYS, usually it picks up by the following weekend. If the 4th falls on a weekend, forget it, don't work the week. Like this year. If it's a lame weekday, no big deal.

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    I think there is a bigger lesson. Not to criticize you personally, but I've noticed with fewer customers and the same amount of girls (anywhere from 40 to 140 at my club), that the girls are talking FOREVER! It's like some of them think talking more will make him buy dances...it won't!

    Talk 3 songs at most and he better spend some money in my book. If he isn't spending money on you give someone else a chance. I know were all bored, but some guys aren't spending as much money because they're entertained for free by us all sitting around talking one after the other. I had no one to sit with the other night almost all night because of girls just sitting around chatting (not even a drink in front of most of them). When I finally got one at 3:30 am, he bought a dance by 3:45 he bought champagne at 4 am. Try everyone, but don't try the same guy for an hour. Your not helping yourself or anyone else.

    Sorry if I move off the thread a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogocat View Post

    Talk 3 songs at most and he better spend some money in my book. If he isn't spending money on you give someone else a chance. I know were all bored, but some guys aren't spending as much money because they're entertained for free by us all sitting around talking one after the other.
    quoted for truth.

    penny, you should have called him out on it. what is it he does for a living? ask him if he's doing okay? i can't believe he actually said that to you.

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    I feel for ya it's exactly like that at my club at the moment. So many time wasters it's like pulling teeth alot of the time to get dances. My club has even cut the dances down to half price mon-wed dayshift because it's harder to make money during the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogocat View Post
    I think there is a bigger lesson. Not to criticize you personally, but I've noticed with fewer customers and the same amount of girls (anywhere from 40 to 140 at my club), that the girls are talking FOREVER! It's like some of them think talking more will make him buy dances...it won't!

    Talk 3 songs at most and he better spend some money in my book. If he isn't spending money on you give someone else a chance. I know were all bored, but some guys aren't spending as much money because they're entertained for free by us all sitting around talking one after the other. I had no one to sit with the other night almost all night because of girls just sitting around chatting (not even a drink in front of most of them). When I finally got one at 3:30 am, he bought a dance by 3:45 he bought champagne at 4 am. Try everyone, but don't try the same guy for an hour. Your not helping yourself or anyone else.

    Sorry if I move off the thread a bit.
    For the record, my time spent before I went on stage was Aprox 5 minutes. The time spent when I came back and thanked him was maybe 10 more, if that. total time spent = 15 minutes. I am -NOT- someone who sits with customers for free. Also, as I stated previously, the reason I even stayed that long was because I've been "talked to" before about not giving them "enough time" by management. I understand your point, but I think you misunderstood or I didn't describe the timing very well. Oh and, as I said, he originally sat next to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorsi View Post
    Shit like this is exactly why I'm quitting. Sorry you're dealing with it too.
    Shit like this is exactly why I am TRYING to quit, but finding a "normal" job is just as challenging as trying to make $50 at my club right now.

    Penny, I feel your pain. For the FIRST time in my stripping career (a little over 2 years) I left the club without being able to pay my house fee. Thursday night I had a night kinda like that, every person I tried to talk to would either want to get into some sort of doom-and-gloom convo, or just straight up be fucking rude to me..

    I want a normal job so bad I want to cry. I don't think I can take one more night of not making any $$ or barely making house fee. Not only is it affecting the financial end of things(of course) but it is taking a mental toll on me really bad as well.

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    You HAVE to speak to customers for longer if it's that slow. He may be rejecting the dancer because she isn't pushing any of his hot buttons and wasting her time (and the other girls), but guys also know if there isn't a lot of othe customers you don't really have anyone else trying to whisk you away. You should try and keep busy in line with the supply & demand concept but you will have to give them a bit more of your time. Not 20 minutes worth or 15 in ONE sitting, but I very rarely see girls getting guys in 1 or 2 songs when they're the only customers in the club.

    This pisses me off to no extent because guys get this arrogant vibe like they're looking "oooh I'm the only customer! look at all these women to pick from!" and half the time don't even buy dances because they're just having so much fun fucking with everyone and getting enough enjoyment from girls fighting over them that they feel no need.

    I've had these exact customers before though and it sucks. I would have left earlier in the conversation but I understand what you're saying about managment. Last week this lawyer came in (lawyer! he had money!) and was talking to me about his job, somehow a similar line came up "and it's hard because you have to try and figure out whether they're just wasting your time or you're going to make a profit out of them... kind of like what you do right?" that man did not buy me a drink nor did he buy a single dance from me. Worse he kept looking for me all night because he said he was having so much fun talkiing to me and I made him feel "so good" about himself.

    Alright how about you make ME feel good about MYSELF by giving me cash asshole?

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    What happen to buy a dance to talk? It use to be you hook them and before they start, you ask if they mind buying a dance while they talk, if not you calm and polite say sorry but I have to work and maybe another if you ever want that dance.

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    Uh yeah dude that what's it's like at my club too. That's why I'm on here every night instead of at work. I packed up my work stuff and it's sitting by the front door. I need to get another job or go somewhere else. I left there with like $2 one day last month!! They are actually doing shift pay!
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    When he started saying "You girls still do okay, right?" I probably would have snapped back with "Actually, the bar is on the verge of going under and I will be out of a job. So no, we aren't doing 'okay'".

    But I have always had a problem with controlling my mouth.


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    ^ I did pretty much tell him "no, we aren't doing ok" but in a much more round-about way. Which, is probably best since he wound up talking to the manager on his way out. I asked the manager "what that was about" and he said the guy was asking him how business is.

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    What a fucking loser. "How's business going? Hope its going well cause I didn't spend any money in your club!"

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    ^right?

    And to those of you saying it's why you're leaving the job (or trying to) I feel you on that. I've been looking for something else for awhile, but it's really difficult to find something that works with school and still pays eough to cover my bills. I'm planning on starting to sell customized shoes and and dancer accessories starting in another month or two when I have the start-up costs. Hopefully I'll actually make enough money to at least cut back my shifts a lot. If not, oh well, back to square 1...... but I have to try SOMETHING. I'm so tired of bitching about how slow it is and how shitty customers are without actually DOING anything to remove myself from the situation. Sitting on craigslist looking at jobs doesn't count for momentum anymore. heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    I've been looking for something else for awhile, but it's really difficult to find something that works with school and still pays eough to cover my bills.
    Same here. I am stuck for the forseeable future. I just don't see any other options right now. Plus Im watching all my friends get laid off from their "stable" jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    Same here. I am stuck for the forseeable future. I just don't see any other options right now. Plus Im watching all my friends get laid from their "stable" jobs.
    I know you meant "laid off", but for a second I was like.... you're friends are getting laid because they have stable jobs????

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    whoops!!! LoL!!! my brain move faster then my fingers sometimes.
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