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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    That material was not even relevant to the discussion.
    Actually I feel it is, and the reason is simple. If any of us actually found ourselves in the position of some stranger with a knife in our own homes ... when your adrenaline is pumping at max level, when your terror level is turned up so high you can barely register what is going on, all this arm chair bravado and intellectualizing is just a bunch of BS.

    Many of us would just react... and shoot! It isn't like the movies where the actors are well prepped, re-hearsed, and know there is no real danger.

    And likewise it's utter BS to insist we would do better in the shoes of the dancer because if we were her, with her life experiences, in her situation, we'd be her and react like her. And her response isn't that unreasonable, and nor is shooting the fucker who comes into your house with a knife, when we stop worrying more about the rights of the attackers than the victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    Actually I feel it is, and the reason is simple. If any of us actually found ourselves in the position of some stranger with a knife in our own homes ... when your is pumping at max level, when your terror level is turned up so high you can barely register what is going on, all this arm chair bravado and intellectualizing is just a bunch of BS.

    Many of us would just react... and shoot! It isn't like the movies where the actors are well prepped, re-hearsed, and know there is no real danger.

    And likewise it's utter BS to insist we would do better in the shoes of the dancer because if we were her, with her life experiences, in her situation, we'd be her and react like her. And her response isn't that unreasonable, and nor is shooting the fucker who comes into your house with a knife, when we stop worrying more about the rights of the attackers than the victims.
    You are supposed to keep yourself in control. If you do not then you end up in the jail. That is reality. Your adrenaline is not an excuse to commit a murder. It may earn you some slack but you still have to face the music.

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    You have in the last 2 pages and especially in your responses to my wonderful post and other members who followed it, made the following things absolutely clear to anyone of average or better intellect reading those same 2 pages:

    1. - You have no working knowledge of either our legal system, criminal justice sciences, or both, despite you claims.

    2. - You have a truly astounding internet equivalent to selective hearing, responding only to those portions of a post you think (wrongly most of the time) you may be able to take on.

    3. - You completely lack the basic and necessary ability to see anyone else's POV, and therefor the basic tool with which to caryry on a debate.

    4. - More and more of the same listed above, over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    You have in the last 2 pages and especially in your responses to my wonderful post and other members who followed it, made the following things absolutely clear to anyone of average or better intellect reading those same 2 pages:

    1. - You have no working knowledge of either our legal system, criminal justice sciences, or both, despite you claims.

    2. - You have a truly astounding internet equivalent to selective hearing, responding only to those portions of a post you think (wrongly most of the time) you may be able to take on.

    3. - You completely lack the basic and necessary ability to see anyone else's POV, and therefor the basic tool with which to caryry on a debate.

    4. - More and more of the same listed above, over and over.
    Once again you wrote tons of texts and yet did not come up with one convincing excuse - why you had to shoot the guy? You should at least give it a try. Come on.

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    I have done so REPEATEDLY.

    He was in my home illegally, with a weapon.

    That is all I need. You apparently hod yourself to a different standard when it comes to killing a violent criminal. Good for you. Hopefully neither of us fces this scenario IRL; if we do we know 2 things:

    1. - I will kill the bad guy and deal with the police asking questions,

    2. - You will hold him there (at gunpoint? If you don't have one, how?) until the cops get there - unless he has another weapon or another person in the house, in which case the same cops that examined the scene of the dead bad guy in MY house will be examining the crime scene of the murdered man and his family in yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    You are supposed to keep yourself in control. If you do not then you end up in the jail. That is reality. Your adrenaline is not an excuse to commit a murder. It may earn you some slack but you still have to face the music.
    No offense to AJ but if some wack job entered his home with a knife he wouldn't be thinking clearly; even LE in such conditions often do succumb to the flight or fight reaction.

    You know something about this, but you sound like the social workers we use to have to deal with who never actually got their hands dirty working up close with criminals, but were paid to act as their representatives from a safe office.

    When/if you are actually in the situation, then come tell me how you are suppose to act. Because my guess is in that moment you will see the truth of what I am about to tell you - "You are suppose to stay alive!" The living can negotiate self-defense vs murder later. The dead cannot.
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    Dont move to FL Cyril. Here...in OR out of your home,if someone threatens your life or well being(as in rape)..it is perfectly legal to return with deadly force. If someone broke into my home and threatened me with a knife,I'd be completely within my rights AND the law to shoot to kill.

    Happened around the corner from my house not long ago. Guys went into a store to rob the place. Walked a 75 yr old man to the back of the store to lock him in the storeroom. He had reason to believe they would kill him once they got back there. He(being an ex Marine and armed) shot the guy and killed him. He was all over the news as a hero and the dead guys PARTNER is being charged with murder,since had they not been robbing the store,his buddy would not have been killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    1. - I will kill the bad guy and deal with the police asking questions,
    You can decide to do whatever you want. The point I am trying to impress upon you is that it will cost you.

    You can fool some people some time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

    I am done with you now

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    No offense to AJ but if some wack job entered his home with a knife he wouldn't be thinking clearly; even LE in such conditions often do succumb to the flight or fight reaction.

    You know something about this, but you sound like the social workers we use to have to deal with who never actually got their hands dirty working up close with criminals, but were paid to act as their representatives from a safe office.

    When/if you are actually in the situation, then come tell me how you are suppose to act. Because my guess is in that moment you will see the truth of what I am about to tell you - "You are suppose to stay alive!" The living can negotiate self-defense vs murder later. The dead cannot.
    We are all scared of danger but it is our duty to learn to overcome our fear and muster the courage to do the right thing. A murder of a man who has surrendered is cowardice in my opinion and there is no justification for that. Even in combat where things are much more heated, this kind of action will earn you a court martial and dishonorable discharge.

    Have you not seen the pics of those people who were involved in this kind of cold blooded murder in Iraq? They all thought they were too smart to get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    You can decide to do whatever you want. The point I am trying to impress upon you is that it will cost you.

    You can fool some people some time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

    I am done with you now
    WOOOOOW.

    it will cost us?

    It will cost us what? Our dignity? Or humanity?

    You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself. ESPECIALLY since you have limited knowledge and YOU WERE NOT THERE.

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    Med - it was a hypothetical that he invented earlier, not an actual event (thank God). Not that I blame you for not wanting to read through all that, LOL!

    Jesus why am I still awake - and being awake, why am I on SW?! Car show tomorrow before the big party starts, wanted to detail her when it was only 90* outside instead of 112, lol. I really should go to bed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    ...A murder of a man who has surrendered is cowardice in my opinion and there is no justification for that. Even in combat where things are much more heated, this kind of action will earn you a court martial and dishonorable discharge....
    If only life was simple there could be one simple set of rules for everything. But every situation is different, including that you can't easily compare what we require of LE, soldiers, civilians protecting their homes in times of war, and the civilian who is randomly attacked with a deadly weapon in their own home. Different situations, different mental states. Sorry if that is bothersome that it doesn't all fit into a neat little package of rules but should you ever actually find yourself in such a traumatic situation then you'll grasp the PoV you cannot grasp until then.

    Just remember one thing. A man who breaks into your home with a weapon and intent to harm you has not exactly proven himself to be honest. Weigh that when you weigh if his surrender is sincere.
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    Wow... you guys took that off into places I never expected it to go lol.

    It comes down to intent and malice people. It has absolutely nothing to do with who is right or wrong or your personal opinions on the matter. You have the right to defend yourself, and your family from harm. Self defense exists for a reason. Someone breaks into your house with the INTENT to cause bodily harm to you you have the RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF. Case closed.

    Start adding details though and it obviously gets more complicated.
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    You heard the girl....Case Closed! Nothing to see here.....move along....move along.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    I had a guy start jacking himself off during a dance tonight.

    I don't understand this. Don't you know that the stripper, other strippers in the room, and other patrons are just sitting there think fuck this guys a nasty perve? Wouldn't you rather do it in the privacy of your bathroom, your car or your home?

    LOL! I hate guys that jerk off in their cars though because they can't seems to get out of the parking lot first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    Sorry if that is bothersome that it doesn't all fit into a neat little package of rules but should you ever actually find yourself in such a traumatic situation then you'll grasp the PoV you cannot grasp until then.
    I have been in quite a few traumatic situations and I think most men who get to live as long as I have see at least one traumatic situation in their life.

    Fear is your problem to work out. It is not an excuse to commit unwarranted murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Two or three of my favorites won't dance for black customers at all, let alone cut them slack in the booth, and have even chastised me for introducing them to black guys I knew because they didn't want to be asked for a dance.
    I know some white strippers who won't dance for African-American guys, they always tell me "they're not gonna pay..."

    Works for me, I will just pick up on those customers! I have never had a problem with African-American customers, they've been some of my best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Great how did that help pay your bills?

    What are you saying? That we should tolerate sexual assault? because defending ourselves against an attack doesn't pay us, we should just let it happen?

    really, WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    What are you saying? That we should tolerate sexual assault? because defending ourselves against an attack doesn't pay us, we should just let it happen?

    really, WTF?
    It was security that assaulted the customer who was "REALLY drunk". In a civilized situation he would not have been permitted to remain in the bar let alone be permitted to purchase more services.

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    This happened to me monday night. Now if a guy is just doing a very quick readjust i dont say anything. But I started dancing for this artsy looking dude, early thirties. He was doing it w the girl before me and I knew he wanted a dance so I told my manager to come check on me incase he kept it up.

    I start dancing and he immediantly starts jacking off. He had his hand on his package above his pants. I backed like 3 feet away and I just sort of bopped from side to side. He said "you seem nervous, are you new"

    I told him "no, but I am not going anywhere near you until you stop being dirty and jacking yourself off."

    He got pissed, threw my money down and left. The dance was only 10 secs in, so it was fast money

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    ^^Haha good for you!

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    Welcome to FL...dont fucking piss us off.
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    A 72-year-old Harlem business owner used a shotgun to blast four men who tried to rob his restaurant-supply business Thursday afternoon, killing two and sending two others to the hospital with gunshot wounds, the New York City police said.

    The police said that the four would-be robbers entered the business and announced that they were robbing it. One of them took out a Glock 9-mm pistol and started to pistol-whip a 33-year-old employee inside the store. The owner then took out a shotgun and opened fire, striking the four men.

    Nearly two hours after the shooting, the body of a dead man lay on the sidewalk, its upper half covered in white plastic. The man wore gray pants and white shoes. The sneakers pointed up.

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    I watch the news report and the store owner begged the robbers to leave; they proceeded to beat his employee; an excitable black man the supply store owner was trying to help and set on the straight and narrow. It appears the store owner was not charger and he opened his store the net day. I liked the part in the news story when the beaten employee was kicking the dead guy in the head; the police did stop him.

    Both the employee and the owner gave interviews to the new reports; the owner was shaken and sorry; the employee was happy to be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    What are you saying? That we should tolerate sexual assault? because defending ourselves against an attack doesn't pay us, we should just let it happen?

    really, WTF?
    You get a visceral thrill but no money;I would worry about the guy dressed in black waiting for the employees to walk to their car. Maby not that night but at a time time of his choosing. You should thank the creator that PLs are PL and don't do that.

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    After reading this thread, I have one thing to say: I am astounded at the glaringly inconsistent moderation of this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnytwoshoes View Post
    I have not been going to strip clubs long but on a few occasions I have seen the guy getting himself hard before the dance by touching himself when sitting with a girl. The dancers didn't seem to mind this which surprised me.

    Is this typical?
    Is it typical for a dude to go to a club where there are naked women and spend the entire time staring at a dude getting his cock hard?

    Sounds like you're in the wrong type of strip joint, buddy. Try hitting up Chip and Dales. Maybe the guys there will teabag you and make your night.


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