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    I have now been a reg long enough at one club to have become something of an "insider". I guess a safe reg hears a lot more than a casual customer would.

    Two girls told me (before they were showing) they were pregnant. (Not the way to sustain business!) A girl told me she missed a month because she had an abortion after "my boyfriend popped his nut in me." Again, not the way to sustain business. I have heard who got super skinny b/c they started doing coke, who is missing b/c they are in rehab, who is fucking particular customers for pay, who is doing it for free, which girls rat out other girls to management, about boyfriend troubles, yada yada yada.

    I still can get super turned on, esp by semi-favs I have selected or by hot new girls, so it's not ruining the club experience for me in that sense. But it's definitely not a Candyland...in many ways I now see the workings of the club through eyes like a dancer would (or maybe mgmt, since I'm male).

    Is all this a good thing or a bad thing?

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    Holy crap!! You hear more about the inner workings of the club than I did when I was a dancer!! If you are still enjoying it, I don't guess it's a problem, but if it bothers you, maybe you could try telling them. Something along the lines of "I'm here to enjoy a fantasy and really don't need to have that much reality disrupting my visits."

    Personally, some of that stuff would freak me out. I see girls like that as trashy (gossipy, fucking custies, accidentally preggo, doing drugs. etc.) and always stayed far, far away. (Yeah, I know, I'm a snotty diva. )
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    ^Yes you are.

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    That's up to you to decide. The first thing you have to remember is that anything one dancer tells you about another dancer most likely BS. If a dancer you see all the time tells you something about herself it may well be true but the minute she starts talking about other girls it's probably BS. This goes double for anything a bartender or a waitress tells you since they are hearing all the BS second or third hand.

    Frankly I've been a regular with so many dancers and at so many clubs for so many years that I hear this sort of stuff all the time. It doesn't effect my ability to enjoy my visits because my favs are way too smart to let it!

    I would say that if it gets to the point where a hot naked woman can't turn you on anymore simply because you are preoccupied with things that have nothing to do with you then yes, you have a problem. It's not a case of being "in too deep" however, it's just a preoccupation with shit that doesn't matter and probably isn't true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    Personally, some of that stuff would freak me out. I see girls like that as trashy (gossipy, fucking custies, accidentally preggo, doing drugs. etc.) and always stayed far, far away. (Yeah, I know, I'm a snotty diva. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    The first thing you have to remember is that anything one dancer tells you about another dancer most likely BS.
    I understand what you're saying, but at some point you just have to trust the person you're talking to or there's no point, right?

    The specific (true) example I am thinking of is I dancer I go see (dances and/or talking), have been for a year. She knows my frequency of visits and my spending level, she knows it is not always on her, she hasn't seen either dramatically fluctuate in the time I've been seeing her. Also, we talk a LOT about everything under the sun, including her own life.

    In this circumstance, if I hear from her things about other girls, what incentive would she have to be lying to me? She knows she's not going to earn more from me by lying...she already has a steady year long track record of my spending. If she says that x girl snorts coke in the dressing room, why should I not believe that?

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    Why do you care what they have to say? You arn't trying to make a SC anything more then a place to get a stinky finger are you?

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    I am in the same boat as the OP. Sometimes its best not to peek behind the curtain.

    I had a bad night last night with my favorite just because we are alittle to familiar with eac other. I know a lot about what goes on in my club. Some of it not good.
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    My only advice would be to keep it to yourself and don't blab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Why do you care what they have to say? You arn't trying to make a SC anything more then a place to get a stinky finger are you?
    Well, for better or worse, I wouldn't even be on this site, wouldn't have a username and have discussions about strippers and strip clubs, if I was just an occasional casual visitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I understand what you're saying, but at some point you just have to trust the person you're talking to or there's no point, right?

    ...In this circumstance, if I hear from her things about other girls, what incentive would she have to be lying to me?
    I'm not trying to create a scenario where she has an incentive to lie to you. All I'm saying is that club BS is just that, club BS.

    My favs vent to me all the time about girls that bug them, girls that steal customers, girls that get fired or suspended for various violations, etc. They have no incentive either since I only buy dances from them. Sometimes they just need to vent to a guy with a sympathetic ear. It's really nothing more than that.

    You asked if you where in to deep. I can't even comprehend the thought process that makes you think that you are too deeply involved in something that has nothing to do with you. That's all I'm saying.
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    Wow! I know that some girls tend to blab about themselves and the club, but usually it takes an interested listener to encourage that kind of information out of most people. It is rare that a person just sits down next to someone and starts laying out all the gory details.

    Where I'm going with this is that I've had customers play newspaper reporter and try to pump the dancers for all the detailed info about the club and I've had other customers that remain happily oblivious by keeping the conversation light and limited to cocktail party style small talk-- the weather, sports, Hollywood etc.

    I'm guessing that you may not even realize that you are not skilled at small talk and immediately go into the relationship building types of conversations that are usually reserved for more intimate situations, like a date or family gatherings.

    People in the sales world are reactionary. Kind responds to kind. Keep intimate details of your life to yourself and don't ask others for the intimate details of their lives, and your experiences at the strip club will be more light hearted and not so drama filled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Wow! I know that some girls tend to blab about themselves and the club, but usually it takes an interested listener to encourage that kind of information out of most people. It is rare that a person just sits down next to someone and starts laying out all the gory details.

    Where I'm going with this is that I've had customers play newspaper reporter and try to pump the dancers for all the detailed info about the club and I've had other customers that remain happily oblivious by keeping the conversation light and limited to cocktail party style small talk-- the weather, sports, Hollywood etc.

    I'm guessing that you may not even realize that you are not skilled at small talk and immediately go into the relationship building types of conversations that are usually reserved for more intimate situations, like a date or family gatherings.

    People in the sales world are reactionary. Kind responds to kind. Keep intimate details of your life to yourself and don't ask others for the intimate details of their lives, and your experiences at the strip club will be more light hearted and not so drama filled.
    Nah this isn't it, I am extremely skilled at small talk. With my current fave it took many weeks of repeated visits before we even approached heavier topics like this. With almost no girl (except those who just seem to want to blab) do I talk about stuff like this the first or second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Why do you care what they have to say? You arn't trying to make a SC anything more then a place to get a stinky finger are you?
    I think I just threw up. Don't act like a pig.

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    LOL! sorry but if you dont want the drama, I would suggest going to a new club. As a dabcer, I would never bring up personal drama to my customers, never would unless we were very close. Because they are sharing personal things with you, Seems these girls feel comfortable with you which is good, but at thes ame time I doubt you will be able to go to this club anymore to have a good time without hearing about it!

    If you enjoy hearing the behind the scenes dirt, by all means still go to the club. I would just find it kinda annoying if I was trying to kick back and relax only to hear about others problems!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I think I just threw up. Don't act like a pig.
    If you don't like a Stinky Finger drink something else; they are a little strong.
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    Three of my favorite adult liquors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I have now been a reg long enough at one club to have become something of an "insider". I guess a safe reg hears a lot more than a casual customer would.

    Two girls told me (before they were showing) they were pregnant. (Not the way to sustain business!) A girl told me she missed a month because she had an abortion after "my boyfriend popped his nut in me." Again, not the way to sustain business. I have heard who got super skinny b/c they started doing coke, who is missing b/c they are in rehab, who is fucking particular customers for pay, who is doing it for free, which girls rat out other girls to management, about boyfriend troubles, yada yada yada.

    I still can get super turned on, esp by semi-favs I have selected or by hot new girls, so it's not ruining the club experience for me in that sense. But it's definitely not a Candyland...in many ways I now see the workings of the club through eyes like a dancer would (or maybe mgmt, since I'm male).

    Is all this a good thing or a bad thing?

    You think that's bad? Try being a FEMALE customer! I get to hear shit that would curl your hair! When I first started clubbing it was entertaining, but then it got ridiculous - so many girls wanting to share SOOOO many problems. I sympathized with them, and gave them a shoulder to cry on.......but talk about a buzzkill. My own fault for not putting a stop to it, I guess. It got so bad at one point with all the secrets and drama that I stopped going to one club for almost 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    If you don't like a Stinky Finger drink something else; they are a little strong.
    1.25 oz of Jack Daniels, 1.25 oz of Jim Beam, 1.25 oz of Captain Morgan Rum, and 2 oz of sweet and sour all mixed together and poured over ice.
    Mixing Jack and Jim? That works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    If you don't like a Stinky Finger drink something else; they are a little strong.
    1.25 oz of Jack Daniels, 1.25 oz of Jim Beam, 1.25 oz of Captain Morgan Rum, and 2 oz of sweet and sour all mixed together and poured over ice.
    Because we all know thats exactly what you were talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    Mixing Jack and Jim? That works?
    That is what I use I leave out the sweet and sour and ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    That is what I use I leave out the sweet and sour and ice.
    lmao... i like jack, i like jim... but yea, that sounds horrid mixed

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    I have this in the club AND at home, lol.

    It's only an issue if you let it be - the Jedi is right on the money. Either change the subject or sit there and talk about it - but since you aren't beating anyone, selling drugs, or knocking girls up, I fail to see where it's your issue. If you're close to someone you will have a natural concerned reaction, but really - it's up to you what you make of it.

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    Danger Will Robinson!!!!

    Ok, here's the big danger. Without you even doing anything, you are slowly being pulled into the drama at the club. At first it feels kinda cool. Hey! I'm an insider! But soon you are too involved in the drama, again, without you doing anything. You will be identified with a clique. (BTW- biggest lie ever - "all the girls here get along!") Girls will hate you because you like "her" (said with a sneer). You are no longer a faceless customer. You are a leveraging tool. DON'T EVEN THINK YOU CAN WALK THE MIDDLE ROAD.

    Who you talk to becomes gossip. Who you supposedly slept with becomes fair game. Girls that hate your girl will say some very interesting things about the two of you. You talk to the wrong girl, and boy, you're in the dog house.

    Soon you'll be thinking, man, I need a girlfriend to get away from all this drama! Then my friend, you're already in way too deep.

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    ^^If you are thinking and worrying about it this much it sounds like you already consider "your girl" your gf. WHY would you care about all this stuff with a stripper?? Our job is to be entertaining, pretty things that provide a fantasy. If being an "insider" is part of your fantasy, fine, but otherwise, avoid the drama and the girls that thrive on it. There are plenty of hotties that don't enjoy angst and drama.
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