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    Last night I was getting quite frustrated, three of my customers asked for my number during the middle of a dance. My club has a very strict no information policy because it's considered prostitution and I wouldn't give any information to a one dance customer anyway (which all of them were) but I had a hard time getting out of the situation...they didn't seem to take no for an answer even when I told them I would get fired which made me quite annoyed. They all asked if I had a boyfriend to which I answered no, because I don't, but also because I feel like if i lied and said yes to get them to back off they wouldn't be interested in buying more dances with me. I don't want to ruin the illusion of them being able to have access to the sexy stripper by telling them I was seeing someone but I think that made them more aggressive. When I told them I'd get fired and they would see me giving out my number all three of them said "Just tell me and I will memorize it and no one will find out" or "Just set up a time to meet with me outside the club" it seemed like they all had an answer for me and I was getting super flustered and annoyed!!! Not to mention all of them asked me as soon as our dance started and I feel like me telling them no made them not want to buy more dances from me. I probably should have avoided the conversation and said "We can talk about it when we finish dancing" to get more dances out of them but I was a bit caught off guard so I'll be sure to do that next time. I even told them the advice given in Dancerwealth and said "I don't meet any guys outside of the club, I've been burned before" and was met with "Well I'm not like other guys!" Gahhhh!!!! How do I get around this without seeming like a total bitch but getting them to take no for an answer?

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    Be firm. I start with "I'm sorry babe, but that is considered solicitation of prostitution. It's again the law, and I don't want to lose my job." If they insist again the "I'm sorry, I told you, it's against the law. I don't make the rules, it's just club policy." Blame it on the club, not you. Or sometimes I say "You're really cool and all but seriously, between school and work and the occasional sleep, I don't really have time to hang out with anyone, even the friends I have now!"

    If they keep pushing me I will be very firm and say "Look. Nagging me is not going to get you a different answer. I'm sorry, but I have told you several times I don't do that."

    After that? Walk away.

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    i usually say smthg along the lines of- i'd have to get to know you better, i don't give my number out to people i first met, i've been burned in the past...thanks for understanding (get to know you better= give me more money/buy more dances) i also feel like i'm shooting myself in the foot if i straight out say "no". so i like to string them along , but only if they're giving me money of course. the other variety is the potential regulars, you actually want to be able to possibly contact them, they however, are not to be confused with the average tom-dick-or-harry that just wants to take you to IHOP after work. the former are identified my the lump sums of money they spend on you. you might want to get a 2nd email address to give to them, or possibly a cheapo prepaid phone.
    These days I like to count my money. I like to wash it delicately and iron it. Sometimes I dry it with some bounty to make it all nice and cuddly. I love my money... did I say that out loud?

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    "But we just met! How do I know you're not like those other guys? You'll have to come see me here a few more times so I can find out. I feel very safe here."

    "yeah, here, my number is 857-5309" (fake number)

    "tee-hee, I ran my phone bill up so high, they shut it off. let's do more dances, so I can afford to get it turned back on, and then NEXT time you come here, you can have my number!"
    -- this worked for me in south Phoenix. Nightly. I wouldn't try it anywhere that wasn't a really low-income area, for a variety of reasons.

    I'm a big fan of the "You're really cool and all but seriously, between school and work and the occasional sleep, I don't really have time to hang out with anyone, even the friends I have now!" I use this all the time.

    Most guys who will try to get your number in just one or two dances are not going to buy more than that, no matter what. They're going to move on from girl to girl, trying to get as many numbers as they can. They also will generally waste their whole dance bothering you about phone numbers and meeting up OTC. Tell them anything, really. It doesn't matter much.

    As far as the boyfriend thing goes, I have one, and I dislike lying about it (not that I won't, but I avoid it). When they ask, I'll say something like, "do you really want to hear about him while I'm naked on your lap RIGHT NOW? let's just enjoy this moment!" And then I do something a little extra sexy. It acknowledges that he exists, and brings the focus back to the dance and the fun they're having. If they push the issue, usually with a "how does he feel about this?" I reply with something like, "he's absolutely fine with it, or I wouldn't be here, now stop worrying and enjoy your dance." I say all of this with a smile, and a happy tone of voice, and they shut up and usually spend more.

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    I tell them I don't give my number to people I don't know. If they keep bothering about it I tell them if they buy 500 dances with good tips from me I will give them my e-mail and we can work on being friends from there. If they get really annoying I just sigh and talk about the good old days when men understood what being a man was..

    This job is about acting single but untouchable. You don't have to lie just move the conversation to something else. If they keep at it you just ask if they are more into guys than girls, it pisses them off but as I have found these guys don't usually tip or buy dances from you even if you tell them the truth.

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    When guys asked me if I had a boyfriend I would just giggle and say "I have MANY boyfriends!" If he pushes a bit more then as MissLizzy said you can say something like "do you really want to talk about other men right now?" This was usually enough to deflect.

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    I always said that I am very careful who I give my number out to since I've had stalker issues in the past (true). And that I'd never have time to do anything but answer my phone if I gave it to every random guy who asked! (say it with a sly wink and giggle and most guys laugh it off and dont ask again)

    If hes insistent and you think you may get more $$$ out of him that night,but not setting him up to be a reg....give him a number from here: http://www.rejectionhotline.com/ Pick one close to your area and memorize it!

    I used to give insistent guys the # for the local police station. The one time I saw a guy again and he called me out on it...I said that I thought maybe they could explain the concept of a woman saying No and meaning NO to him BEFORE he was arrested for harassment or worse.

    I've also given (and even charged for!) fake numbers,including giving 2 guys who were pestering me all night tirelessly each OTHERS number! Maybe they bonded over what a bitch I am and became lifelong douche-buddies! lol

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    HAHA That last one is so funny! I give out the radio station's loser line, and have even heard recordings on there for "Gia". I don't think they have that nationwide though!
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    To give # of police station is AWESOME! I would never come up with something like that.

    But as far as giving my phone number I never do it and I had regulars known me for long time and keeping on buying me dances regardless of fact that I refused to give them phone number. It really does not matter much. Guy who asks for phone number during the first dance don't likely buy bunch of dances anyway. I simply say that I never give phone number because of safety issues, nothing personal. If guy is persistent you can take HIS phone number and never call.

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    These are all really good tips thanks girls!!! The guys I was dealing with the other night seemed to have an answer for every possible scenario I gave them and none of them bought more than one dance from me which was annoying. I should memorize some of the fake ones but giving out any information at all is considered prostitution at my club so I'd have to see if I can give out fakes ones but I'm hesitant to give out anything at all in case they think I really was giving out my real one. I don't know why guys didn't understand I wasn't willing to risk my job to give their lame asses my phone number, guys are so dense sometimes....blegh.

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    They don't understand it because they're either so useless at life that they really truly believe that all strippers are in the club looking for a man, and that they are truly awesome enough to be that guy, or because they're used to getting numbers from strippers for dates, or OTC contact.

    My club has similar rules about exchanging info with customers, but girls still take and give out info. I just recently saw a girl who I know knows better give a customer her phone number during a smoke break. I pointed out the stupidity of this to her, and she was like, "but he's hot! I just want to have sex with him, there's no money involved and it won't be in the club!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslizzy View Post
    As far as the boyfriend thing goes, I have one, and I dislike lying about it (not that I won't, but I avoid it). When they ask, I'll say something like, "do you really want to hear about him while I'm naked on your lap RIGHT NOW? let's just enjoy this moment!" And then I do something a little extra sexy. It acknowledges that he exists, and brings the focus back to the dance and the fun they're having. If they push the issue, usually with a "how does he feel about this?" I reply with something like, "he's absolutely fine with it, or I wouldn't be here, now stop worrying and enjoy your dance." I say all of this with a smile, and a happy tone of voice, and they shut up and usually spend more.
    Me likey......

    I haven't heard those ones before

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    I am so tired of this, but in your case, I would give out the CLUBS phone number!!! Dancing is a business after all, the clubs will not allow us to give phone numbers to our good customers, (considered solicitation? WTF?) AND they do not give the clients a way to contact us via the club. I think being able to keep in touch with the good customers in your night is a GREAT THING! However these guys who are prying are just desperate for attention from any girl. If these guys are buying two dances and asking for numbers, they are not worth the effort even. If they only put in 25% they cannot expect 100% back! Ask your club if it is ok to give out emails. HOWEVER, I would use the CLUBS PHONE NUMBER. Say you can always call this number and see if I am here, or something along those lines.

    This is a business and there has got to be a way around this. I am curios to know if any clubs exist out there that have websites that allow the customer to email their fave dancer, and or give the girls extensions? i know the vegas clubs are packed but for the smaller clubs out there this would be a great way to keep in touch. I was watching that show about the bunny ranch and each bunny has her own personal extension and email address on their website. I dont knw why clubs do not do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    This is a business and there has got to be a way around this. I am curios to know if any clubs exist out there that have websites that allow the customer to email their fave dancer, and or give the girls extensions? i know the vegas clubs are packed but for the smaller clubs out there this would be a great way to keep in touch. I was watching that show about the bunny ranch and each bunny has her own personal extension and email address on their website. I dont knw why clubs do not do this.
    Not a bad idea! I don't think this would be feasible for some clubs, though. For a club that only has a small roster of "house" girls, this would be no good. And then you have clubs like mine, with websites that look as if they haven't been updated since the heyday of Geocities and Angelfire.

    Back to on-topic, though, I'm fairly sure that even in a club with no particular rule against email exchange, giving out email addresses still falls within the spirit of the "no contact info" rule.

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    If you give them a fake number, and they get burned, you might never get a dance from them again. Why bother giving a fake number to get another dance when it's burning the bridge for 6 months down the road when their buddy has a bachelor party?

    Another idea is to make a myspace/twitter/facebook account for your dancing and send them there. That way you can post your dance schedule and deflect their "get to know you/fishing for freebies" messages into having them come visit for a few dances at the club.

    If a custie is being an ass and making you feel like you have to squirm around and make up something to get out of it, why stick around? Just finish the song and find someone who knows how things work at the club.

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    Go to www.k7.net
    get free number and set up your free voicemail. If you don't mind using a Seattle area code

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslizzy View Post
    Not a bad idea! I don't think this would be feasible for some clubs, though. For a club that only has a small roster of "house" girls, this would be no good. And then you have clubs like mine, with websites that look as if they haven't been updated since the heyday of Geocities and Angelfire.

    Back to on-topic, though, I'm fairly sure that even in a club with no particular rule against email exchange, giving out email addresses still falls within the spirit of the "no contact info" rule.
    Great idea yes? Will it happen no, but clubs should. It will keep people coming back and spending money at the club. Hard issue.

    I really do not want to keep in touch with more then half the guys I come across, but for the guys who spend big bucks and sugar daddys who "care about you" in clubs I would def keep in touch with them somehow. Your best bet is to give them your clubs phone number. Even with no personal extension they can cll and see if you are working. If a $20 customer expects it to go further then this from one dance, he has too high of expectations and it is best you move on. Guys like these wll ask every girl for their phone number that night, for various reasons, but it is not worth the effort or risk on your part. Maybe this dude is playing Paris's version of the reject game lolo, seeng how many dancers reject his pleas for his number lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    If you give them a fake number, and they get burned, you might never get a dance from them again. Why bother giving a fake number to get another dance when it's burning the bridge for 6 months down the road when their buddy has a bachelor party?

    Another idea is to make a myspace/twitter/facebook account for your dancing and send them there. That way you can post your dance schedule and deflect their "get to know you/fishing for freebies" messages into having them come visit for a few dances at the club.

    If a custie is being an ass and making you feel like you have to squirm around and make up something to get out of it, why stick around? Just finish the song and find someone who knows how things work at the club.
    Great idea but the other poster was right, giving out emails and even myspace pages and the like breaks her clubs rules of no contact outside of the club Are there any ways around this is the question?

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    laservoicemail.com I think is better, call (206) 376-1000, automated systems get's your free number and voicemail hooked up.

    k7 is set up online and recieves faxes. laser voicemail is simpler

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    (Quote)If hes insistent and you think you may get more $$$ out of him that night,but not setting him up to be a reg....give him a number from here: Pick one close to your area and memorize it!

    I used to give insistent guys the # for the local police station. The one time I saw a guy again and he called me out on it...I said that I thought maybe they could explain the concept of a woman saying No and meaning NO to him BEFORE he was arrested for harassment or worse.

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitterStar View Post
    (Quote)If hes insistent and you think you may get more $$$ out of him that night,but not setting him up to be a reg....give him a number from here: http://www.rejectionhotline.com/ Pick one close to your area and memorize it!

    I used to give insistent guys the # for the local police station. The one time I saw a guy again and he called me out on it...I said that I thought maybe they could explain the concept of a woman saying No and meaning NO to him BEFORE he was arrested for harassment or worse.

    haha
    OMG yes be careful even with these fake numbers, if you are caught at club giving fake number they can still have a problem with you trying to give out personal info and you may get fired. On top of it, I was in a similar situation once, I gave a good custy a fake number, he called it right then and there and got ultimately pissed off when it didnt lead to my voicemail lol. Live n learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Great idea but the other poster was right, giving out emails and even myspace pages and the like breaks her clubs rules of no contact outside of the club Are there any ways around this is the question?
    I guess just turning around and giving him the foot away-butt treatment for the rest of the dance, then moving on. Just seems like a waste to let someone who doesn't respect boundaries get you down and ruin your mojo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Great idea but the other poster was right, giving out emails and even myspace pages and the like breaks her clubs rules of no contact outside of the club Are there any ways around this is the question?
    Any way around it? Not without breaking the club's rules, I would imagine. Either you're giving out contact info, be it fake or real (good point to whoever pointed out that you can still get in trouble for giving out a fake #) or you aren't.

    *shrug* My club has super strict rules against info sharing, to the point where nobody (not custies OR dancers) is even allowed to have a cellphone that can be seen on the floor. So, my work email address is very easy to memorize, and any guy who wants to keep track of when I'm at what club had better be able to recite it back to me after I tell it to them. Is this breaking the rules? Yes. I stay out of trouble by being discreet, counting on my customers' discretion, and my manager's trust that I'm not a skank. I'm also emphatically not making dates for OTC, or doing anything else that would get me in trouble, so I'm not too concerned about it.
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    I hear ya. These rules really do make it difficult for the clean dancers who just want to have a business and in-club relationship with their customers. I have broken this rule myself, I would say make a website with your stage name, and tell custys to google it when they get home. From there they can start sending emails back and fourth, and keep in touch that way. Use your best judgement. If a customer spends $100 on up, he is worthwhile and worth keeping in touch. Online you can hustle him bac into the club to see you, sending cute emails. " I miss you come in to see me tonight, etc" However these $20 desperate guys are again not worth the effort or risk to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    . I was watching that show about the bunny ranch and each bunny has her own personal extension and email address on their website. I dont knw why clubs do not do this.
    Good idea in theory,but would only work for small clubs with an established group of dancers. Otherwise it would be way too much for most clubs to keep up with since dancers are always coming and going. Someone would have to be hired to do nothing but update this stuff every time a new girl is hired,or a dancer leaves...not to mention having to figure out which dancers are gone for good and which are just taking some time off.

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