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    Hey ladies;

    I have been to a pyschotherapist; she said I am not manic depressive, but rather have bouts of mania and hellllllllllla anger issues. Essentially, I am mentally normal aside from being perpetually pissed off. I have never been depressed or anxious just... angry.

    How do you guys deal with it? Anyone else have anger issues/ intolerance? Any suggestions are welcome. Muay Thai is helping for sure, but it is not eradicating the problem. I have been trying to meditate etc but it also isn't working. My walls cant afford anymoe dents.
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    Never would have guessed...

    How long have you been meditating? That is not something that will help immediately but is more of a long term/lifetime solution. Also, how long/often? And how calm does your mind get when you do?

    Unfortunately, I don't have any good answers. I definitely have had to do some drywall repairs in my time. I still have some anger issues, but I've calmed down. The only thing I can attribute to is age/time. Removing yourself from a situation that is making you angry can help (both leaving a room where something is pissing you off in the immediate, and making life changes like your move that should help in the long run).

    You have also said you don't exercise. The muy thai is a start, but doing things to get rid of the tension that may be causing the anger, and just generally using any energy being directed to anger right now for a more positive activity, may help.

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    Also, read the bible.

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    I suggest the Idoits guide to bi polar. you can get it from amazon for like 10 bucks. It has a lot of helpfully info. Meditition is very key to learning to chill. When I am having a day like that, I just let who ever (personaly - mom, friends, bf) that I am having a bad day so they will not bitch or do anything else to piss me off. I dont tell customers, I usually cant go to work mad. Meditate, eat health, try eating things with anti-ox. Blube berrys, Dark chocolate, they are supposed to release the "happy" chemical in your brain. Take a shower, as if your starting the day over. Count to ten, and if you have to count to ten again. Sometimes counting to a higher number you wont be able to focus, then get even mader you cant even count to 50. take deep breaths- focus on feeling the air going through your whole body. Look at calming pictures, like the beach, or if you prefer the fall, leaves. call a friend and talk to them, someone that knows how Bi polar works. If they dont understand then they wont be able to help you. excerice REGULARLY!! studies show if you dont excerices regularly, just here and there it can actully lead to depression. What someting funny on youtube, studies say laughing for 2 mins can relax someone for 30 mins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmurphy252 View Post
    Also, read the bible.
    I just laughed so hard I thought I was going to fall over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I just laughed so hard I thought I was going to fall over!
    Me too

    To be honest Mediocrity from reading your posts you remind me a lot of myself--we share the same opinions on things. I've got the same anger issues...have been debating going to the doctor about it but ugh..I just don't wanna go. I prefer to work it out myself as I'm a little wary of psych meds. Not that they're not a good thing for some people.

    Do people ever tell you to calm down a lot, and it just makes it worse?

    That particularly drives me nuts. But yeah meditation does help me sometimes, and making it a point to do what I need to do for myself so I'm not walking around feeling slighted.
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    [QUOTE=BlueJeanBaby;1831452]

    Do people ever tell you to calm down a lot, and it just makes it worse?

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    lmfao...HELL YEAH!

    My PsyD told me something similar: I have a "mood disorder" but it's not bipolar or major depression...I just run constantly irritable. Not angry per se, just always irritated, or when I am not irritated (a rare occurance indeed), the slightest thing can still set me off.

    My husband said that he's known and knows a lot of women, but he's never met someone with a trigger as sensitive as mine. He's "never seen anything quite like it".

    I meditate for a minimum of 10 min/day, trying to up it to 30. I exercise everyday. I eat as healthy as possible. I try deep breathing and separating myself from the trigger. I walk with my dogs alone for a while. I listen to music and read. I self-talk, telling myself I am being irrational. I shower to "cleanse" myself of the anger-going out when the wind is really blowing helps too.

    Honestly, those are all the things that I have tried. I go through ALL of them to calm down. I don't try just one-I do them ALL on a regular basis.

    Next on my list is meds. I really don't want to go there though...
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    I'm going to say almost just the opposite of these girls. Meditating is good, but if you need to get the anger out than you need to get the anger out. Have you considered something like kick boxing?
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    Aromatherapy and yoga. Yoga has helped me a lot. I also find that exercise helps as well. It clears my head and calms me down by making me focus my energy elsewhere. I also have several tats dedicated to reminding me to relax and breathe (of course actually getting tattoed or pierced makes me feel better too but I dont really recommend those). And...(yes Im gonna say it) sex. My aggression, my anger, my frustration it all gets funneled into passion (as corny as it sounds).

    And when absolutely nothing works. I take a xanax. It's out of your system in 6hrs and the only thing it does is take the edge off so you can get back to your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I'm going to say almost just the opposite of these girls. Meditating is good, but if you need to get the anger out than you need to get the anger out. Have you considered something like kick boxing?
    I'm getting into Muay Thai kickboxing and indoor rock climbing as soon as I get back to Austin, which is, ironically, in six hours.

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    Excersise, but instead of yoga I'd try something like kickboxing which was suggested or a hip-hop dance. I have extreme anxiety and am constantly thinking and stressing or freaking myself out to the point that it interferes with life. Although I have gone the whole klonopin route, and actually have been taking them since I was 12! But tolerance is a bitch. The reason I say don't do yoga or pilates is because I've tried this for seriously like 3 years to reduce anxiety, but each time I end up thinking too much when I'm supposed to "turn off my mind" so you may get angry or annoyed with the atmosphere, it is a bit extreme.

    Also maybe try like thrill-seeking type activities. Maybe if you do something a little scary and get your adrenaline up like that the anger can turn into a self-preservation instinct (I mean don't put yourself in real danger, but like maybe bungee-jumping or learning to fly a small plane or a motorcycle could be a good risk) and would probably make you more effective at the task than someone with a less easily stimulated personality.

    It may be helpful to have one friend who doesn't mind listening to you vent your annoyances. Some people actually find it interesting, perhaps one of your friends does and you can call them up instead of taking it out on the wall.

    Sometimes I try to think of annoying things as hilarious instead. If that's not angry enough you can think how they are hilarious and stupid and how probably someone else thinks so and may get a kick out of it. I've done this at work sometimes and several ongoing jokes have started as something that was so aggravating at the time. But ended up being retrospectivaly funny. Though now if someone's mean I sometimes have to control myself to not start laughing because I'm already thinking how so-and-so is going to get a kick out of what this person said.

    I know sometimes it's just satisfying to punch something though. Something you know will break. Because punching a pillow is kinda lame and not very satisfying. Though I don't get the desire to punch things I do know that when told to take deep breaths its almost worse then just letting my anxiety run it's course. So I'm thinking go punch a pillow would have a similar effect.

    I'd say go to a shooting range....but maybe not, I mean how angry are you LOL.
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    Try to get into yoga or something of the like.

    in the past I dealt with stress via smoking - but considering that I don't want to die of lung cancer - I'm working on quitting and just doing yoga and burning incense.

    I may wind up buying a punching bag soon though - I hear you on the anger and rage - I have a TON!

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    i'm ressurrecting this thread. lately i've been in super bitch mode and super angry and aggressive. i'm looking into muay thai to get my aggression out cause i'm walking around with constant feeling of wanting to punch someone in the face. it's getting bad to the point where im scared if i go into work i'll end up punching someone.

    medio, have you continued with muay thai? right now i just want to beat the shit out of something, or someone but i'd rather not get arrested for assault.

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    I have serious anger issues and weightlifting is my best friend. Cardio type exercise just seems to get me even more wound up but lifting helps me focus on what I'm doing and I use my anger to power my lifts. By the end of the workout, I feel much better.

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    No, because I was hurting myself, as per attached photos. Going to far too quickly. The only thing that helps me is sex, getting tattooed and indoor rock climbing, which I have been slacking on. I punched the stupid wall last night at work in the bathroom after I met a stupid guy.

    I seriously want to murder these asshole for how they treat us.

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    yeah sex helps me, but i'm not getting enough of lately and i'm having trouble meeting a good fwb. last time i worked i probably cussed out half the customers at work and the bouncers let me beat on them but now my hands/wrists are killing me...i feel breaking shit but last time i did that i broke a chair and put a hole in the wall. i was so close to punching this dumb dancer last time i worked for giving me a dirty look. she's got the dumb barbie look and thinks she's the shit...she seriously almost got a beat-down. i'm on meds but theyre not at therapeutic levels yet so i'm like a walking time-bomb, everytime i drive i'm screaming at the top of my lungs and punching the steering wheel. i'm even typing all angry style and chain smoking.

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    Originally Posted by vmurphy252
    Also, read the bible.
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    I just laughed so hard I thought I was going to fall over!
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    Me too

    Why dismiss someone's point of view in such an offhand and immature fashion? I'm very surprised that the Poster didn't come back on your comments - but then - she most likely has more tolerance and accepts your comments for what they are.

    I'm a Christian - and I read the Bible. It teaches me to take me out of myself and to consider others. It teaches me that we are all equal as beings and that I have no contol over others. It teaches me to accept that's the way people are. It teaches me that anger is a futile, unpleasant and destructive emotion - as it not only hurts others - but it also damages myself.

    It teaches me how to love myself and others. It teaches me how to respect others as I would wish to be respected myself. It gives me self-respect and self-esteem. In other words - it gives me standards and morals.

    I do not have to rely upon money, shoes, handbags, cars, jewellery, holidays - or a man taking me to bed - to feel valued and loved.

    It also teaches me Tolerance, Compassion and Love. Things that this modern World seems to have abandoned in its rabid pursuit of greed, materialism and self-satisfaction.

    Above all - it teaches me to look to myself FIRST - for the cause of a problem. Not blaming, or laughing at, other people out of hand.

    Prayer - IS meditation, whichever way you look at it.

    I will openly admit that the Christian Faith is NOT the only way. But please note - I have not 'pooh-poohed' offhand, anyone else's opinions here - unlike you.

    If you find all this laughable and feel the need to try and belittle other people's views - then I can only sympathise with you.

    However. Have you talked to your Doctor to establish if there may be an underlying medical reason for all this anger?.
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    A killer workout to get some of the aggresion and energy out.
    Aromatherapy, tea, and candles to relax.. And good, clean food!

    I am a very angry person too, but I have no reason! I know my life is wonderful and I love it, but yet I am angry and emotional all the time and have been for most of my life.. I try and control it, but still... it got to be too much. So I finally went to the doc about it.

    So I am newly diagnosed bipolar and have just started meds for it to get the emotions more stable... it is so frustrating going up and down all the time.. happy, sad, happy, angry..

    If it is getting uncontrollable, I would talk to your doc. I finally got tired of trying to fix it on my own. I don't want to be an angry person. I accept the fact that maybe I just need a little assistance. So I've begun therapy and meds. I just want to be sane and happy!!
    Good luck figuring it all out!!

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    yeah i'm bipolar as well and currently starting a new med for my mania (my last set of meds turned me into a zombie) so it's not at therapeutic levels yet...i'm actually having to take time off from school because of anger issues and allowing myself to manage my stress levels better, it sucks but it's something i need to do...it's becoming very hard to manage in school while still trying to bottle it all up and then freaking out at inappropriate times. i'm planning on speaking with my psychologist again about this but i already know the answer, exercise in some form will be beneficial, considering meds are not the only answer in controlling times when i feel manic

    i'm not going to turn this into a debate about religion, but your comment, pussyinboots, about the fact that that's probably why she's angry in the first place is making my head spin into aggression...not everyone is religious or finds that reading and prayer can be calming...when you experience true aggression and anger, sitting down to read something is nearly impossible. good for you that you find that being a christian helps you but i'm agnostic and personally hate organized religion...but i'll be nice and say your in put is appreciated...i resurrected the thread not for medio to be analyzed but to merely ask if muay thai has helped her and what other forms of exercise help...maybe i should've just started a new topic about forms of exercise that help aggression out.

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    PIB, in that comment vmurphy was teasing me, because he knows I am a devout atheist. I wasn't trying to demean anyone else's beliefs- but that comment was a direct joke towards me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    PIB, in that comment vmurphy was teasing me, because he knows I am a devout atheist. I wasn't trying to demean anyone else's beliefs- but that comment was a direct joke towards me.
    OK. If it was a personal joke, then I readily apologise for getting the 'wrong end of the stick'. I did try to check 'vmurphy's' gender on the Profile - but it's gone. So my assumption that 'he' is a 'she' was also wrong - and so I admit the error.

    However - I stand by my comments about what my Faith gives me - and how it helps me.
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    I've been living with bipolar disorder since I was eleven and am now almost 30. I don't usually get manic but I have mixed state episodes where I get aaaaaangry. My doctors and I finally got it under control with medication about six years ago so thank god it's been a while since I've felt that way but man, do I ever remember it. I still get pissier than the average person but it hasn't been really bad in a while.

    Medication was my only real choice so obviously I can't recommend any supplements but the other things that really help me keep it under control are eating well, keeping to a consistent sleep pattern (even if it's consistently going to bed at 9am and getting up at 5pm), and working out at least four days a week, one of those days preferably including yoga. Having a healthy body helps me have a healthy brain and helps my meds to do their job.

    When I work out I usually work out hard, too, lifting heavy weights, running fast and hard, doing tabata intervals with my kettlebell, stuff like that. The workouts allow me to channel my rage. It's like I can hold it in now when I get pissed off because I know that I will be able to let it all out later. As long as I have that outlet I don't lose control.

    What's weird is my boyfriend has even worse anger management issues than I do but we never take it out on each other. He manages his through working out, playing with my cats, and screaming creatively at other drivers (traffic in Orlando is really, really bad lately so he fits right in with everyone else on the road).

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    yeah i have mixed mania as well and get ANGRY!! (according to doctors i've been bipolar since i was about 12, but was only diagnosed about a year ago...apparently it's much more difficult to diagnose it in teens) i'm in the process of changing meds, so i'm at an all time angry crazy mess right now until they're at therapeutic levels but i've always been told exercise is somewhat necessary in helping lead a healthy lifestyle. which is why i'm curious about muay thai, even on meds i still have a temper...and i dont want to rely on anti-anxiety meds forever to calm me down...i just feel like punching shit, but in a healthy environment would be beneficial...and also not get me arrested or breaking expensive things. haha.

    where's angelking? isn't he into mma or something of the likes? i'd like to learn more about, i know there aren't a lot of women involved. i'm actually going to check out a gym today...i need to start some sort consistent exercise to supplement my medications.

    eta: PIB, sorry if i came across as offensive in regards to your suggestion about religion. it just hit a nerve (my sister is a born-again and is always trying to get me to convert) like i said, i've been in a crazy, aggressive mood lately, so please take everything i say with a grain of salt as i'm currently working on being a nicer person.
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    ^ No apology necessary babe - but accepted with thanks anyway.

    I'm genuinely sorry to read about your problems. I agree, exercise is a great way of venting off anger and frustration - and meditation (of whatever kind suits you) - is a wonderful way of settling your spirit as a whole. I'm a GREAT believer that we are all nice people underneath really - it's just that sometimes, we can lose contact with our good parts.
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    yeah, it's taken me awhile just to recognize that i need to work on myself as a whole to be a better person but it's a process. i don't want to go through life being aggressive and mean and push away people, i've already done so but i'm lucky to have amazing friends who put up with all my bs...i always end up apologizing because in retrospect i see what i've done...but i want to get past that behavior, so it doesn't it happen in the first place. hurting people creates extreme guilt which in turns creates more anger inside. i meditate and i need to go back to meditating and find some form of exercise that allows me to get my aggression out in a healthy manner.

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