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    I wish there was an equivalent here!

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    I wish there was an equivalent here!
    Are you welcoming more competition?

    I mean it is a good thing for PLs but I do not see how it is a good thing for strippers.

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    ^ Ugh. NO. Obviously, I would be interested in working at one. We just don't have the culture for it like Japan does.

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    I worked at one but in Canada before.. But instead of being called hostesses, we were called PRs.. It was pretty easy work, just sit and drink with customers (almost 100% asian) and they would pay approx $125 per hour. Usually I just drank orange juice or 7up and pretend there's alcohol in there. you are literally moving frmo customer to customer, so you are only really sitting with them a total of maybe 15 to 20 minutes.. the actual pay was $25 an hour, but the tips were good..

    Some of the girls did extras.. I quit because the manager was a real piece of work, they ended up getting shut down shortly after.

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    It would be sweet, but I just don't picture American guys going for it.


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    there are some hostess clubs in la i hear, maybe some dancers should check em out (hearing sc's are so awful there) they often pay by hour plus tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    ^ Ugh. NO. Obviously, I would be interested in working at one. We just don't have the culture for it like Japan does.
    Yea, I suppose there might be some small pockets where it would work, but overall I don't see it being as successful in the USA as it currently is in Japan. And what is true in Japan today will not be true forever. They too will go through social changes that will result in business models that use to work slowly but surely failing. Just give them time. Things change.
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    There are hostess or 'buy-me-drinky' bars in Hawaii. The high-end ones are particular about who they hire (attractive, petite, big boobs) & what you wear (designer outfits, hair/makeup done) as they cater to wealthier Asian businessmen/tourists. It helps if you also speak Korean or Japanese, and you mostly sit there looking pretty, talking, laughing, drinking and singing karaoke all night long. Easy breezy. Damn good pay, too.

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    Um I've heard japanese business men love my look, Can I get a work permit to do this job?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    Yea, I suppose there might be some small pockets where it would work, but overall I don't see it being as successful in the USA as it currently is in Japan. And what is true in Japan today will not be true forever. They too will go through social changes that will result in business models that use to work slowly but surely failing. Just give them time. Things change.
    Well, things do change, but this business model seems to work for the Japanese. The hostess business is the bastard child of the geisha business. I'm sure this format will be around for a long time.

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    I would rather have a woman pour drinks for me, give me neck message, take my shoes off, etc than give me a lap dance. I am not comfortable with the idea of lap dancing. It is too weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    there are some hostess clubs in la i hear, maybe some dancers should check em out (hearing sc's are so awful there) they often pay by hour plus tips.

    The few hostess clubs here in LA have mostly latinas working them, and attract primarily latino patrons. Speaking spanish is almost a must.
    They are also located in some dicey parts of downtown.

    I tried one once and had a very unusual time. Definitely nothing like a stripclub at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    Um I've heard japanese business men love my look, Can I get a work permit to do this job?????
    It might not be all it's c5acked up to be. I read an article about a western woman who went to Tokyo on contract as a hostess. They made her work idiculously long hours, treated her badly, gave he5 5 vitually no days off, and she had to drink a TON of alcohol (they make money for the house by constantly pushing alcohol sales). She decided to cut out on her contract and went to stay at a friends house. She later found out they had sent goons to the airport to look for her and drag her back.

    I saw a documentary on male hosts. They had to excuse themselves to the bathroom several times a night and force themselves to throw up so they could keep drinking more and more.
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    I just read this article and it reminded me of this topic
    This paints such a depressing picture of it but I know it supposed to since she is dead

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...scort-bar.html

    This quote I feel is true for so many incidents that happen to 'sex industry' workers

    ''Lucie never considered herself to be a prostitute. And she wasn't. But her tragedy was that it didn't matter what she thought she was. It was what one customer in particular judged her to be - with truly terrifying consequences.''

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    I feel like some high-end clubs come close to what hostess bars are, although it's still not that similar.

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    the article indicates wages are already falling for hostesses because of the increased supply of applicants. some things are the same everywhere, it seems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoki View Post
    I feel like some high-end clubs come close to what hostess bars are, although it's still not that similar.
    I believe being a 'hostess' over there is basically prostitution/escorting they are just trying to mask it as something else.

    A 'dohan' over there is like a date with the client outside the club and this article says.. (I highly doubt nothing sexual ever happens on these dates)

    ''Louise told of the constant competition between hostesses to get the most dohans. Clubs demanded a minimum number of dohans per month, usually four, and offered a bonus for more than 12. ''




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...-Blackman.html

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    japan culturally has a woman for every role. this is a radical oversimplification, but it is reasonably accurate. there are women you marry, women you make out with and nothing more, women you chat with and drink champagne with and nothing more, women you have certain sexual acts with and nothing more, and so on. this is changing in modern japan for various reasons, but the sex and near-sex (such as hostessing) industry reflects the idea that there is a woman for every task, and it really should be a different woman per task.

    there were similar things in american society earlier in the 20th and 19th centuries, where you had 'dancing girls' who only danced with you and nothing more, but those were separate from actual prostitutes and wives.

    there is a strong argument that such splintering of female roles among multiple women as an expectation for men is not terribly great for female agency, but some argue that it can be great for female agency due to the lesser requirements placed on each women in her assigned role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    japan culturally has a woman for every role. this is a radical oversimplification, but it is reasonably accurate. there are women you marry, women you make out with and nothing more, women you chat with and drink champagne with and nothing more, women you have certain sexual acts with and nothing more, and so on. this is changing in modern japan for various reasons, but the sex and near-sex (such as hostessing) industry reflects the idea that there is a woman for every task, and it really should be a different woman per task.

    there were similar things in american society earlier in the 20th and 19th centuries, where you had 'dancing girls' who only danced with you and nothing more, but those were separate from actual prostitutes and wives.

    there is a strong argument that such splintering of female roles among multiple women as an expectation for men is not terribly great for female agency, but some argue that it can be great for female agency due to the lesser requirements placed on each women in her assigned role.
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