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    Are there any risks associated with camming, that someone new may not realize? I already dance and am looking for extra income. Is it as anonymous as dancing? What should we watch out for? Forgive my naivete, I'm have zero experience with camming.

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    I would like to know that also.

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    Most contracts give the cam company dual ownership of anything you do wile on camera. They can do whatever they want with your work. You could wind up on a DVD with no compensation.

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    Plus I wanted to check out one of the sites the other day and with out any type of membership could see the faces of the girls who were on there. I know one of them allows you to block certain geographical regions from seeing you but not sure which one, that's a better q for someone else.
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    I am pretty interested in this too, I'd love to be able to stay home a little more and still make decent scrill. Plus I am an exhibitionist so I would be totally comfortable, but I would definitely block out my city!! lol.

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    Well imlive let you block out certain places. and to ensure your safety you could join sites that are private chat only. but these days the way I see if someone finds out about it. it is because they are psychically on the website themselves.

    I have been camming for a long time as most of you know, and I haven't had any issues with it. I found being in a strip club more open to personal violations.
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    Ok here it goes. On the top websites you can block any areas of your choice from viewing you. On certain websites they will only promote your content/use it outside of the site with your permission only. I wouldn't put it is as drastic as earl makes it sound, I have been camming 5 years and have never had any content of mine show up where it shouldnt.

    Pls keep in mind there is a risk with any adult work on film or cam ending up in the wrong hands, however ANY IMAGE or video you put online anywhere also carries that risk. It is a risk you must be willing to take. You cannot live in fear and wonder where your images may be. You have more of a risk getting your images/videos/content stolen from your myspace and used without your consent as you do on a camsite.

    The first thing you must do is educate yourself. Read thoroughly over any contracts, and if you dont like something do not sign up. All of the top websites make iteasy for you to find out what you are signig up for. And if you think something is fishy on a site, ask the girls here. As a whole we know which sites are scams and which are not.

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    Any experience with iFriends anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    You have more of a risk getting your images/videos/content stolen from your myspace and used without your consent as you do on a camsite.
    They would not be a video of a sex show and the owner can have them removed. Cam sites used to post the contract and they all gave dual ownership of your videos to the cam company. If they made a DVD they would be in the right and nothing can be done.
    I would like to see a copy of contracts that have to be signed as they are no longer easy to find.

    Read the contract and you will know the risks.

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    Just remember that your customers could be recording your cam show and that could end up anywhere. I've been camming for a cpl years now and havent had a problem.But I also shoot porn,so the idea of my image being out there doesnt bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    They would not be a video of a sex show and the owner can have them removed. Cam sites used to post the contract and they all gave dual ownership of your videos to the cam company. If they made a DVD they would be in the right and nothing can be done.
    I would like to see a copy of contracts that have to be signed as they are no longer easy to find.

    Read the contract and you will know the risks.
    Hey Earl~
    Alot of sites are no longer using paper contracts, I do not know if this even makes for a VALID contract via U.S. Law BUT.....
    If you are intrested in looking up the contracts you can basically go to any website and read the Terms of Use when signing up to become a model. You do not need to go thru the whole sign up process to read these, but you will have to go to the model sign up area to view any contracts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Hey Earl~
    Alot of sites are no longer using paper contracts, I do not know if this even makes for a VALID contract via U.S. Law BUT.....
    If you are intrested in looking up the contracts you can basically go to any website and read the Terms of Use when signing up to become a model. You do not need to go thru the whole sign up process to read these, but you will have to go to the model sign up area to view any contracts!
    I signed a contract for insurance electronically so they are legal. I will try again to pull up a contract as I did in the past but I have gone as far as possible with out actually signing up and no longer see the contract.

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    Isn't one of the camming sites owned by Reality Kings? Or did we already discuss that?
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    I just thought I would add, that yes, alot of sites have this in their agreement. Unfortunately after you are long gone from any site your content can still be out there. BUT this is a risk you take uploading ANY content to ANY website. It will be out there forever. If you are not comfortable with this then camming may not be for you. I forgot to mention that these sites are not based in usa, so us laws would have nothing to do with it.

    BUT we do have choices, If you are not comfortable with full nudity, you can join alot of webcam sites as a NON-NUDE model. And/or you can work on an INDEPENDENAT CAMSITE in which you broadcast your cam and the CONTENT IS YOURS! If you are intrested in INDEPENDENT sites pls PM me I know of a few LEGIT LISTINGS. Unfortunately if you go independent you and you alone are responsible for getting your own traffic, the smaller sites will only bring so many custies to the table.

    And finally one last thing, unfortunately most people believe that if you shoot any videos in porn you make royalties. Most of the time, especially newbies DO NOT!!! The only way you will make royalties is if you are in a contract, and work with one of the TOP agencies!!! If you shoot a porn video, like camming it can be distributed. The owners of the video can do whatever they want with the content, and you won't make a dime. You will only most likely be paid for the shoot and that is it: a one-time deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    I just thought I would add, that yes, alot of sites have this in their agreement. Unfortunately after you are long gone from any site your content can still be out there. BUT this is a risk you take uploading ANY content to ANY website. It will be out there forever.
    If I put something on the web and if it winds up on a DVD or used for advertising I can sue and have it removed and get compensation.

    With this contract one gives the cam site the right to use it, even alter it, in any way they chose and make money and the performer can do nothing about it. The cam site can operate without this clause it is exploitative IMHO.

    I admit I am not a performer or owner I just read the fine print. This information used to be easily available it no longer is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    If I put something on the web and if it winds up on a DVD or used for advertising I can sue and have it removed and get compensation.

    With this contract one gives the cam site the right to use it, even alter it, in any way they chose and make money and the performer can do nothing about it. The cam site can operate without this clause it is exploitative IMHO.

    I admit I am not a performer or owner I just read the fine print. This information used to be easily available it no longer is.
    You are correct about that, but it is up to the individual to make the choice and either sign up or not, so I wouldn't call it exploitation! If you are not reading the fine print, ignorance is bliss I suppose! But if you are you know what you are signing up for!

    However, suing myspace/individuals because your content was stolen and used without your consent is easier said then done. Most sites webcam or not in general have some kind of clause so they do not need to take responsibility for this. You upload content to any site and you are taking a risk. Good luck fighting a legal battle of this nature. I am not sure but if you are uploading any content of yours on your own free will to sites like myspace, I dont believe this means your content is copywrighted, either. I believe the only way you could persue legal action in a situation like this is if your content is copywrighted, for example popular solo girl sites, the content is copywrighted and if that content is stolen the owner of the website can persue legal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    However, suing myspace/individuals because your content was stolen and used without your consent is easier said then done.
    I'm talking about someone being able to use the video commercially and make money not posting on YouTube. I don't have an openion as to what one should do I just posted the part of the contract I find interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post

    I admit I am not a performer or owner I just read the fine print. This information used to be easily available it no longer is.
    Earl the pearl isn't a performer? NO, that cant be! You post on the pink side so much I thought you had a Pu$$Y! AWWW no webcam performances from sw's shining pearl for me tonight LOL!!!! Why'd you have to ruin my night Earl?

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    I havent seen a DVD released by a cam company yet.... doenst mean it wont happen but it's not likely - especially with the big sites. They have soooooo much content and DVDs arent selling anymore they would spend too much time filtering through thousands/tens of thousands of hours just to find those performances that are worth putting out on DVD.

    But as I tell every performer I represent, if you are afraid of being seen doing something you are embarrassed over dont do it on the internet in front of a camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    But as I tell every performer I represent, if you are afraid of being seen doing something you are embarrassed over dont do it on the internet in front of a camera.
    yep! 100% agree!

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    I was thinking about this last night, I dont even think cam sites have the proper documents to make DVD's out of your content, At least here in USA. In order to do this in the USA the camsites would need SIGNED releases and 2257 documents. Electronic signatures just won't do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    I was thinking about this last night, I dont even think cam sites have the proper documents to make DVD's out of your content, At least here in USA. In order to do this in the USA the camsites would need SIGNED releases and 2257 documents. Electronic signatures just won't do.
    Not necessarily true. They would be smarter to have one signed but electronic signature is valid. Here is a link to the US ESIGN Act of 2000.

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...ubl229.106.pdf

    As for 2257, for what I know most cam companies require copies of 2257 docs and IDs.

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    TY Michael for the clairification!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Earl the pearl isn't a performer? NO, that cant be! You post on the pink side so much I thought you had a Pu$$Y! AWWW no webcam performances from sw's shining pearl for me tonight LOL!!!! Why'd you have to ruin my night Earl?
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    Heh, I don't know about many other risks, but I was attending my first munch this weekend and I guy thought he'd seen me before. wtf? Billions of dudes on the Internet and I wind up sitting next to one at the local pizza joint? Lol, I've only been at this a few months...maybe I should look into blocking options. He kept pestering me and I tried to explain that if he were to find his way into my chat room, that it was NOT ok to out me as far as my real life location. He told me that he went to an address the first PSO he ever spoke to gave him only to be disappointed that she wasn't actually there when he arrived.

    I don't know what some people are thinking when they do stuff like this...
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