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    I've noticed a pattern over the years, and this is something I have found difficult to overcome.

    Some customers get possessive and will block me from selling dances to their friends. It's usually the ones who want the girlfriend experience or who point-blank ask me out. Invariably, if their friends express interest in me after I've danced for these guys, the assholes will mutter something I can't hear or make a gesture to discourage the friends away from me. Basically they cock-block their friends from me.

    Even more annoying, they will go on and buy dances with other girls that same night after they've finished with me. I don't care if a guy wants to spread his money around, that's fine. But it annoys the ever-loving shit out of me that they do this while blocking me from selling dances to their friends.

    I know it's some sort of male ego, territorial bullshit going on, but it's retarded. I have never been able to get around this, except on rare occasions when the friend was more of an alpha type and I was able to laugh off the cock-blocking with him to get the sale.

    Any insight from the guys here? A way to get around this stupidity?? Or is it pointless? I used to go ahead and ask for the dance anyway, but it never worked so now I just walk away as soon as I see the cock-blocking thing, unless the friend is clearly not going for it (rare).

    Input appreciated.

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    Default Re: Possessive customers??

    Well...

    I always go alone. This is one of the reasons.

    A lot of girls don't approach groups of men. This is one of the reasons.

    Insight? Some men are idiots and, even worse, they are delusional. What can I tell ya? They get into this whole "don't dance with my girlfriend" vibe even though you are not their girlfriend. Honestly, it seems to me that most guys who cultivate regular dancer relationships usually come in alone...The ones who don't are obviously too stupid to know how to do it right so the drama doesn't really surprise me.
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    There is no way around stupidity. The reasons for this behavior are several, but for all of them you are better off moving along.

    It might be just a "territory" thing. You're "his."

    It could be a psychological thing: He doesn't want to think about you with someone he knows (does he only do this with guys he knows?)

    Or the obvious, he's getting attached.

    Again, the reason is not important as you can't change it. You never will. So move on and don't look back. He'll probably come crawling back at some point. If you choose to take him back (don't) make him agree to a guaranteed number of dances when he's in.
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    Default Re: Possessive customers??

    I'm a lone wolf in the club too.

    I can't really relate to the posessiveness thing either. I want my favourite to do well always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    I'm a lone wolf in the club too.

    I can't really relate to the posessiveness thing either. I want my favourite to do well always.
    Exactly. I think it's the height of arrogance for a guy to assume that his money, no matter how much he spends, is all a dancer needs to earn that day. I get treated very well by my ATF. We pretty much spend the afternoon together when I go in. There are reasons for my great ROI however. I stay away from the club on her busiest days and don't get all pouty and needy when a regular comes in and she needs to go earn some money.
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    It's not just with regulars, but with random guys I just met that night, who tried to ask me out during the course of dances or who like the "girlfriend experience". It never happens with the standard customers who just want some entertainment and a hot dance...always the ones who need a little extra emotional type stuff thrown in.

    I normally do walk away but it is very annoying and I'd love to avoid losing all those sales. It's like the guy is literally taking money from my pocket. Very frustrating!

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    I get this every once in a while, but not from guys in groups. Guys on their own who get mad when I dance with other guys. I want to tell them, monogamy does not exist in the SC!

    I had one psycho my first week... he was a cheapie and only wanted to do 2-4-1s. I kept trying to sell single songs but he wasn't interested. One of the 2-4-1s another customer grabbed me, and the next 2-4-1 another customer did as well. He came up all pissy afterwards complaining about how he couldn't get me during the 2-4-1s... but still wouldn't buy a single song!

    He stayed for a while and started talking to me about how lame the other guys at the club were, especially the ones I was dancing for... then I got called on stage and he told me not to go up because he didn't want me to dance for other men! I told him to sit by the tip rail and then I could focus on him, but of course he didn't. He stood at the back of the club for a song, fuming, before storming out a few seconds into my 2nd song.

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    ...so "breakup" with him right in front of his friends. Bust his ego, tell him you want to dance for his hot friend, go sit in his friends lap and then ignore him.
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    ^He came alone (I can guess why)...

    It didn't really bother me, it was more amusing than anything else.

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    Default Re: Possessive customers??

    All they're doing is cock-blocking. This is a regular occurrence among a group of guys in strip clubs. They try and shoo you away from their friends. They're idiots.

    The sad thing is one guy tried to argue with me!

    I just turn their game around on them and get the dance any way.




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    ^How do you turn it around on them? I am rarely successful with that.

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    Default Re: Possessive customers??

    I guess you posted the question in CC because you wanted male feedback.

    I don't think there is anything terribly unexpected though. Fantasy works because people believe in varying degrees from not much at all to the extreme of actually believing it. In real life many males are quite possessive of females they are attracted too (and perhaps it's even a trait that works on some level or it wouldn't keep re-occurring as a human pattern), so yea, I'd say it's as simple as yes they are really feeling emotions of possessiveness.

    When it comes to the realm of fantasy involving human relationships it is a bit of a dangerous line being walked because not everyone is fully cognizant of where the reality/fantasy lines really exist. I'd be careful because possessive males can also be violent sometimes and unexpectedly. You could probably bank off them under the right conditions but could end up with a stalker type as the negative.
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    How about using a "wing" to distract the would-be-cock-blocker. Another dancer shows up to distract him, while you move on to his friends.

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    Default Re: Possessive customers??

    What Jack0177057 said the wing is one way to distract but if it's too obvious it could back fire. I'm writing about some other tactics that work when there is no wing available.




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    I theorize that the stripper-customer relationship goes a little deeper for men than a standard business relationship men have since there are hormones involved based on a simulated sex/fantasy relationship that is developed.

    For guys, I would say a relationship with a stripper is a cross between a business relationship and a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship and for most men this takes a little getting used to. The guys on this forum are for the most part well adjusted to these relationships and know how to handle relationships with strippers so they of course will be understanding.

    However, based on my theory that the regular customer-stripper relationship is a cross between a business relationship and a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship (from the man's point of view), it then becomes obvious why some men become confused and exhibit possesive behaviors of a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

    This leads me to my advice that what you need to do then is to "break-up" with him (your customer) to prevent this behavior from occuring in the future. The "break-up" is analogous to breaking off business relationship with a client. This will allow you to obtain more business and allow the man to further examine and understand that his relationship with the stripper is not a boyfriend-girlfriend type.

    However, I also think strippers get confused as well since some of them actually have more feelings for some customers than others. For example, if a stripper meets someone she would actually want to date, I think this puts her in a very awkward position in trying to maintain a business relationship.

    Finally, when male customers do find other attractive dancers they tend to more or less "break-up" with old regulars and the feelings are quite strange indeed especially when you go back to the club and see your old "business partner" sitting there in the corner while you mingle with the new blood in the club. It kind of feels like your in the same room with an old girlfriend (but not quite).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    What Jack0177057 said the wing is one way to distract but if it's too obvious it could back fire. I'm writing about some other tactics that work when there is no wing available.
    No "wing" available in a SC?

    The only way I could see it backfire is if the "wing" is way hotter and better looking than the OP... and ends up hustling everyone,... and the OP gets pushed to the side. The wing should be someone that can be trusted to get the job done... charm and distract the cockblocker.

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    i had the broke crew of an NBA b-baller try to block him from talking to me or giving me $ . i said hello the the crew just to say be nice and they acted too cool for school. Then i walked the fuck away and sat alone.

    The the nba'er that they were waiting for spotted me before them, came to talk to me and gave me a wad of twenties while glancing over his shoulder at his boys. He also had the bartender ask me (who was sitting alone) what i wanted to drink everytime he and his possey ordered a round.

    They were totally calling him away from me. The baller was soooo nice. His crew were such jackasses. If hed came alone hed have had a great time. He alone was funny and cute.

    The sweetest revenge was after i got of stage (i sold a champagne room from stage) and walk right passed them up into VIP and they we literally going "ohhhh look at that shes on her way to vip".

    i recommend you do your thing right infront of them. The group will probably start to again want what others are getting. Especially if you replace one group w/ another or just blatantly make $ in front of them.

    On a funny note i saw the "crew" minus the NBA friend on saturday as i was coming down from VIP they looked very bitter and were like "there that one goes again". They looked not happy.

    I dont get assholes, why be jealous of strippers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    No "wing" available in a SC?
    It happens but then I have never relied on a wing. I just agreed that a wing is good idea for dancers who are unsure how to handle major cock-blockers.

    Also just because a girl is hotter doesn't mean she possess the skill to get the dance.

    To me it could backfire because like I said it's all to obvious they are basically getting played. And who else would be the one to bring it up? The initial cock-blocker.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cadencetyme View Post
    i had the broke crew of an NBA b-baller try to block him from talking to me or giving me $ . i said hello the the crew just to say be nice and they acted too cool for school. Then i walked the fuck away and sat alone.

    The the nba'er that they were waiting for spotted me before them, came to talk to me and gave me a wad of twenties while glancing over his shoulder at his boys. He also had the bartender ask me (who was sitting alone) what i wanted to drink everytime he and his possey ordered a round.

    They were totally calling him away from me. The baller was soooo nice. His crew were such jackasses. If hed came alone hed have had a great time. He alone was funny and cute.

    The sweetest revenge was after i got of stage (i sold a champagne room from stage) and walk right passed them up into VIP and they we literally going "ohhhh look at that shes on her way to vip".

    i recommend you do your thing right infront of them. The group will probably start to again want what others are getting. Especially if you replace one group w/ another or just blatantly make $ in front of them.

    On a funny note i saw the "crew" minus the NBA friend on saturday as i was coming down from VIP they looked very bitter and were like "there that one goes again". They looked not happy.

    I dont get assholes, why be jealous of strippers?
    I totally forgot about this thread before. This is pretty much what I do, just move on and hustle elsewhere. I haven't found anything else that works, except when my guy is receptive to making it a private joke between me and him about his friend just being jealous. I feel like I'm pretty good at reading that, and will use it when I can, otherwise I just walk away and do my thing.

    I just feel like it's something I could improve if I can figure out how to deal with the cock-blockers better. I don't know how to deal with them when my guy doesn't have a strong enough personality to play along.

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