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    I've seen some dancers asking about MySpace pages, and here are a few things to consider:

    It is a great way to leave your schedule, pics, and anything else a customer might be interested in. And it leaves you in complete control of the information. It is one way to build interest.

    It's a way you can respond back (in your own comments section) in a very controlled way.

    You can decide your "status." Once dancer became instantly "married" when a guy got too interested. She was like, "check MySpace. I'm married!" Photos and everything. Cheeky girl.

    It lets guys see other guys being interested in you! This cuts back on any thoughts of exclusivity. When ten guys post in the comments section about how they love her, it's hard to maintain that particular delusion.

    !!!!!! Warnings !!!!!!

    First, if you have a "civilian" MySpace, chances are it will get out. Somehow, they always do.

    Your dancer MySpace is viewable. Those pictures are out there. This is risky if you are an undercover dancer. You can have your page "private," but that does diminish its usefulness, especially for those guys who don't want a dancer "friend" on their space!

    Big warning---> Sometimes other dancers will be your friend! That's cool. Sometimes, though, they use their civilian MySpace. Now every guy has that dancer's photo and real name. Be careful with this one.

    So to quick sum up: A useful tool for advertising and promotion (even when you switch clubs!) But use with caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy_Guy View Post
    First, if you have a "civilian" MySpace, chances are it will get out. Somehow, they always do.

    Your dancer MySpace is viewable. Those pictures are out there. This is risky if you are an undercover dancer. You can have your page "private," but that does diminish its usefulness, especially for those guys who don't want a dancer "friend" on their space!
    If you have a "civilian" myspace, then you shouldn't be using it to promote yourself as a dancer so I don't understand the warning. I have a personal myspace with a nickname on it instead of my real name. I keep it private and only allow my actual friends and family to join.

    I also have 6 different business myspace profiles for various characters which I portray in different aspects of the adult industry. They are completely open and viewable to everyone because that's the whole darn point, bringing in more customers.

    I don't understand what your point is. You do realize that a person can have more than one myspace, don't you?

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    I'm not sure which warning your are asking about, so I will elaborate.

    The first about Civilian pages getting out. I say that because, at least in the LA/OC area with a (un)healthy SC internet community, you can get listings of girls' MySpace pages. Many are not intended for general viewing. Those should definitely be put to private. Some girls don't think of this. But the warning is to let girls know that even their personal pages can get out. I know many girls who've had customers find those pages and harass those girls. (Another good reason to keep your email/real name to yourself.)

    The linking of one girl's personal to another girl's dancer page has also happened.

    You are obviously taking all the precautions you should. Not everyone does.

    This kind of problem usually occurs after the initial "total paranoia" stage of dancing wears off. You've been dancing for a while. Nothing bad has happened. Your secret's safe. You get a little careless.
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    Warning: If you are using your real name ON your civilian space, you shouldn't! Facebook and twitter also. Private profiles are still not as private as one would imagine!

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    I have used Myspace for years. I just got really active on Facebook when it eclipsed myspace as the most popular social networking tool.

    Never EVER use your real last name. Also don't have the same contacts on your real facebook and your stripper facebook
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    Quote Originally Posted by britneyireland View Post
    Never EVER use your real last name. Also don't have the same contacts on your real facebook and your stripper facebook
    Unfortunately, that isn't enough. You have to make sure that your contacts don't have any contacts that can be connected back at your real facebook, and that their contacts don't either, and so on. For example: the bouncer has a real facebook, this has a link to his buddy the DJ's real facebook, as well as to your stripper facebook, the DJ's best friend has a friend who is dating your best friend (links to real facebooks all the way). Your best friend has a link to your real facebook. A connection has been established . This applies to all the other social networking sites as well. It doesn't take a lot of time for someone with a fast internet connection and good pattern-matching skills to search six or seven layers out in your network.

    Two things that can help a great deal, both of them act to make sure that the link between your real facebook and your stripper facebook is much harder to establish:
    1) Don't use a real-life recognizable picture on your real FB. (This assumes that the stalkers are going to come from the stripper side of your life. If people from your real life are stalking your stripper persona, you have my sympathies (I also want the script rights.)

    2) In the same vein, make sure that any personal information on either of your facebook sites can't be easily correlated. If you have the same age, hometown, height, weight and favorite color on both sites, you're a lot easier target. It's like the picture, only easier in some ways.

    That being said, it's all a matter of risk, perceived risk, and risk management. Being online at all, even here, exposes you to some risk of discovery. Social networks increase that risk, sensible precautions decrease it. It's up to you to figure out where you're comfortable.

    I'm speaking from experience here. I've investigated social networks in the past, with the Secret Service involved. The techniques aren't rocket science. Any reasonably smart stalker will figure them out on his own. The other ones will just wait outside the club and follow you home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy View Post
    That being said, it's all a matter of risk, perceived risk, and risk management. Being online at all, even here, exposes you to some risk of discovery. Social networks increase that risk, sensible precautions decrease it. It's up to you to figure out where you're comfortable.

    I'm speaking from experience here. I've investigated social networks in the past, with the Secret Service involved. The techniques aren't rocket science. Any reasonably smart stalker will figure them out on his own. The other ones will just wait outside the club and follow you home.
    It's sorta like car thieves. Most precautions deter the curious / opportunity thieves. A true pro cannot be reliably stopped.

    An overly curious PL can be deterred by most precautions. The whacked stalker, well, that's a different post.
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    I guess I'm just shocked that some people actually need to be told this. Apparently, I give people WAY too much credit.

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    I have two separate accounts. Neither lists my legal name, nor do they share any of the same contacts... I'm very paranoid about that. Pretty much the only one on my civilian page are family members and friends from when I was in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I have two separate accounts. Neither lists my legal name, nor do they share any of the same contacts... I'm very paranoid about that. Pretty much the only one on my civilian page are family members and friends from when I was in school.
    Thank you, Kylea, i also personally got concerned with FB after hearing couple of friends' stories who shut down their profiles. The recent article in NYT just confirmed the FB's exodus, as well.

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    Things fall apart; the center cannot hold. Facebook, the online social grid, could not command loyalty forever. If you ask around, as I did, you’ll find quitters. One person shut down her account because she disliked how nosy it made her. Another thought the scene had turned desperate. A third feared stalkers. A fourth believed his privacy was compromised. A fifth disappeared without a word.

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    The exodus is not evident from the site’s overall numbers. According to comScore, Facebook attracted 87.7 million unique visitors in the United States in July. But while people are still joining Facebook and compulsively visiting the site, a small but noticeable group are fleeing — some of them ostentatiously.

    Leif Harmsen, once a Facebook user, now crusades against it. Having dismissed his mother’s snap judgment of the site (“Facebook is the devil”), Harmsen now passionately agrees. He says, not entirely in jest, that he considers it a repressive regime akin to North Korea, and sells T-shirts with the words “Shut Your Facebook.” What especially galls him is the commercialization and corporate regulation of personal and social life. As Facebook endeavors to be the Web’s headquarters — to compete with Google, in other words, and to make money from the information it gathers — it’s inevitable that some people would come to view it as Big Brother.

    “The more dependent we allow ourselves to become to something like Facebook — and Facebook does everything in its power to make you more dependent — the more Facebook can and does abuse us,” Harmsen explained by indignant e-mail. “It is not ‘your’ Facebook profile. It is Facebook’s profile about you.”

    The disillusionment with Facebook has come in waves. An early faction lost faith in 2008, when Facebook’s beloved Scrabble application, Scrabulous, was pulled amid copyright issues. It was suddenly clear that Facebook was not just a social club but also an expanding force on the Web, beholden to corporate interests. A later group, Harmsen’s crowd, grew frustrated last winter when Facebook seemed to claim perpetual ownership of users’ contributions to the site. (Facebook later adjusted its membership contract, but it continues to integrate advertising, intellectual property and social life.) A third wave of dissenters appears to be bored with it, obscurely sore or just somehow creeped out.

    My friend Alex joined four years ago at the suggestion of “the coolest guy on the planet,” she told me in an e-mail message. For a while, they cultivated a cool-planet online gang. But then Scrabulous was shut down, someone told her she was too old for Facebook, her teenage stepson seemed to be losing his life to it and she found the whole site crawling with mercenaries trying to sell books and movies. “If I am going to waste my time on the Internet,” she concluded, “it will be playing in online backgammon tournaments.”

    Another friend, who didn’t want his name used, found that Facebook undermined his whole notion of online friendship. “It’s easy to think of your circle of ‘Friends’ as a coherent circle, clear and moated, when in fact the splay of overlap/network makes drip/action painting a better (visual) analogy.” Something happened to this drip painting that he won’t discuss. He said, “Postings that seem private can scatter and slip unpredictably into a sort of semipublic status.”

    That friend was not the only Facebook dissenter who was reticent about specifics. Many seem to have just lost their appetite for it: they just stopped wanting to look at other people’s photos and résumés and updates, or have their own subject to scrutiny. Some ex-users seemed shaken, even heartbroken, by their breakups with Facebook. “I primarily left Facebook because I was wasting so much time on it,” my friend Caroline Harting told me by e-mail. “I felt fairly detached from my Facebook buddies because I rarely directly contacted them.” Instead, she felt as if she stalked them, spending hours a day looking at their pages without actually saying hello.

    But then came the truly weird part: “Facebook was stalking me,” Harting wrote. One day, on another Web site, she responded to an invitation to rate a movie she saw. The next time she logged on to Facebook, there was a message acknowledging that she had made the rating. “I didn’t appreciate being monitored so closely,” she wrote. She quit.

    Julie Klam, a writer and prolific and eloquent Facebook updater, said in her own e-mail message, “I have noticed the exodus, and I kind of feel like it’s kids getting tired of a new toy.” Klam, who still posts updates to Facebook but now prefers Twitter for professional networking, added, “Facebook is good for finding people, but by now the novelty of that has worn off, and everyone’s been found.” As of a few months ago, she told me, Facebook “felt dead.”

    Is Facebook doomed to someday become an online ghost town, run by zombie users who never update their pages and packs of marketers picking at the corpses of social circles they once hoped to exploit? Sad, if so. Though maybe fated, like the demise of a college clique.

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    ^^^ I have friends that when you google their real names all their info comes up including where they live and their personal myspace pages. That stuff scares the living daylights out of me... so I never sign up for anything with my legal name.
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