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    Arrow Creating/maintaining regulars and contacting them in a recession

    You all have at least a couple of regulars (or you are one, guys). How has this changed for the recession? To me it seems entertainers here in Dallas with the most regulars are not having as much trouble making money right now. Hustlers seem to be hurting the most, and some of them refuse to have/keep regulars.

    For girls: How do you keep/manage a regular?

    For guys: How can an entertainer 'keep' you? What about her (besides just looks) makes you want to keep seeing her? Does she call you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    ... To me it seems entertainers here in Dallas with the most regulars are not having as much trouble making money right now. Hustlers seem to be hurting the most, and some of them refuse to have/keep regulars. ...
    IMHO these statements seem a bit over simplified. The need for regs. can vary greatly depending on the club, the shift, the dancer, etc. In general regulars tend to require time and attention. A dancer who refuses to have regulars that works day shifts is likely to be in a far different situation than a dancer who works Fri & Sat nights.

    While having regulars can have it's positive aspects they can also have their negatives. Over time, maintaining regs. often results in diminishing returns. Also, there's the risk of regs. becoming too attached and evolving into a stalker issue or worse.
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    I guess what I am looking for is more about how a dancer gets to trading phone numbers or using social networking to 'keep' the guy. What are some tactics? We all know they will take your business card and never call you, but that isn't a very effective tactic for creating repeat business!

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    I always say I'll take their business card... I add the information to my list of customers and can e-mail them when I'm in their area. Alternatively I use Myspace a lot as well.
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    I maintain regulars with no OTC contact merely by keeping a regular schedule. Sure, I rarely know exactly when they're coming in, but that's ok. They tend to come in early in the day and there is an ocassional conflict, but generally I can suss it out so that I still make my money and no ones' feelings are hurt.

    I will never offer a phone number, and very very very rarely an email. If my regulars want to see me or talk to me they HAVE to enter "fantasy land" aka come into the club. Bella does not exist outside of fantasy land, lol. Despite this hands-off approach, rarely does a shift go by without at least one popping up, and yes they have really helped keep me afloat through this recession.




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    I'm new to the club scene in the last 9 months. So I wasn't entirely sure what to expect from it. For me , I met my ATF about 6 months ago. She is a totally down to earth girl that is stunningly beautiful. She is super hot and sensual in the VIP, and she is a no extas girl, which I wholeheartedly applaud, and I do not push the limits (mine, hers, or the houses) We actually became quite close after just our second VIP. First one was .5 hr, second one was 1.5 hr. After the second we exchanged emails and phone #'s. Both she and I have been going through some difficult times in our respective lives. We often call or email each other to bounce ideas off one another, or just for a listening ear, we do casual lunch or dinner every month or so. She never pressures me to "come in and see me" -rather I'm usually asking her for her schedule. So what keeps me... is the fact that she trusts me, that we can talk about anything -not just surface stuff and small talk, and she doesn't treat me like an atm.
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    "down to earth girl that is stunningly beautiful' if i ever found one like that i might even have an ATF, meanwhile it just move from one dancer to the other all the time. lots of fun anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    For guys: How can an entertainer 'keep' you? What about her (besides just looks) makes you want to keep seeing her? Does she call you?
    Swapping body fluids works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Swapping body fluids works for me.
    LOL. This sounds nothing like a sex act.

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    Why would the strategy be any different? Assuming relaxing her limits is not an option, she's just got to work harder and more often.
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    A BBBJ is always a good incentive, irregardless of the current economic situation.

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    Default Re: Creating/maintaining regulars and contacting them in a recession

    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post

    For guys: How can an entertainer 'keep' you? What about her (besides just looks) makes you want to keep seeing her? Does she call you?
    If she is a fav, or my ATF, that will last as long as she is a dancer. Nothing beyond what originally attracted me to her will help her to "keep" me.

    That being said, there are a ton of favs that I may only see once or twice a year since I visit a lot of different clubs. My ATF is the one gal that I go out of my way to see regularly. She is my ATF because she fits my preferred body type (that was the initial attraction), has a great personality, is as generous with her time as I am with my cash and keeps me laughing. We are OTC friends and that does involve phone calls, emails and texts but she never calls and asks me to come in to see her at the club. I know her basic schedule and If I feel like paying her a visit I text her to confirm that she will be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bella du jour View Post
    I maintain regulars with no OTC contact merely by keeping a regular schedule. Sure, I rarely know exactly when they're coming in, but that's ok. They tend to come in early in the day and there is an occasional conflict, but generally I can suss it out so that I still make my money and no ones' feelings are hurt.

    I will never offer a phone number, and very very very rarely an email. If my regulars want to see me or talk to me they HAVE to enter "fantasy land" aka come into the club. Bella does not exist outside of fantasy land, lol. Despite this hands-off approach, rarely does a shift go by without at least one popping up, and yes they have really helped keep me afloat through this recession.
    Thanks AGAIN Bella! Your advice has been spot-on in lots of my threads. So you don't keep contact much at all?

    As far as some of you 'dudes' in this thread. Come on. Raise your level of conversation, please. I guarantee you if you're more respectful and have some nonsexual input on these boards you'll start to get respect and maybe some of these entertainers will even let you come see them sometime.

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    I think i am pretty easy to figure out and most get me right away....it is rather they choose put in the effort or not. My biggest problem is my time. Most of them know that i work everyday of the week and unless i am in the area it probably isnt going to happen.

    I use to have more time on my hands but its been close to two years since i have had a vacation. Not only that when you start to get more than two that you really like it gets even harder. It does guarantee that when i am in that area they will be visited. And since i have no life besides work, when i do decide to take the weekend off---going to see one of them is relaxing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    I guarantee you if you're more respectful and have some nonsexual input on these boards you'll start to get respect and maybe some of these entertainers will even let you come see them sometime.
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    You're asking a lot of the male population. Too much.
    Come on! Give us some credit. Some of us deserve a chance. You're going to let a few bad apples ruin the whole bushel?

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    Come on! Give us some credit. Some of us deserve a chance. You're going to let a few bad apples ruin the whole bushel?
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    I guess what I am looking for is more about how a dancer gets to trading phone numbers or using social networking to 'keep' the guy.
    I don't do any of this, and quite frankly I don't recommend other dancers "network" with their customers OTC either. It's a dangerous world full of crazy ppl. Why on earth would I want to give someone I don't know (regardless of how good a customer he is) and open line into my life. No thank you! Work and home are seperate and I will keep them that way.
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    I don't do any of this, and quite frankly I don't recommend other dancers "network" with their customers OTC either. It's a dangerous world full of crazy ppl. Why on earth would I want to give someone I don't know (regardless of how good a customer he is) and open line into my life. No thank you! Work and home are seperate and I will keep them that way.
    I agree and would add that OTC networking also quite often leads to the end of the ITC gravy train.

    I have mentioned often here that some of my best real-life friends are dancers or ex-dancers. That being said, I should also mention that there are several favs that I have known for many years and have absolutely no contact with between visits.
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    How does this relate to regulars?? Did Smith walk in and start getting dances? That makes me think of an entirely new thread----dealing with celebrities....
    Especially Vinnie Paul and ClubHouse...

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    I normally don't put any OTC effort into maintaining regulars. For years I wouldn't do it at all. In the last couple years I'll do it for guys who are especially nice, generous and whose company I genuinely enjoy, AND I feel aren't too needy / potentially crazy. I will only text once in a while though, no calling, no dates, no emailing. I value my personal time and I need to keep work and personal separate for my own sanity.

    Otherwise, if a guy likes me and wants to see me again, he can come see me in the club. I'll be happy to greet him and entertain him, get to know his likes, converse on a more friendly level, but I'm not willing to put out anymore mileage for a regular than anyone else.

    I am inflexible on this because I learned years ago that regulars are generally not worth the extra effort: diminishing returns, increased expectations, decreased willingness to spend, potential stalker/psycho issues.

    I had a bad experience with one who I never once contacted OTC at ALL; he would just come see me in the club. He finally started with the girlfriend stuff and other weirdness until he creeped me out so much I was afraid he might start following me home from work. I got frustrated and went on a worktrip and came home to find my apartment broken into, nothing stolen but all my underwear and stripper gear strewn around everywhere and a huge mess. I moved immediately and didn't go back to that club for 6 months, and thankfully that ended the weirdness.

    I already had a no-OTC policy and wasn't interested in making a conscious effort to cultivate and maintain regulars beyond a little in-club friendliness, because they always start expecting more for less. That psycho experience solidified this attitude for me.

    Basically, when a good customer is local or a frequent traveler and indicates he might want to see me again, I will tell him my usual schedule and that I'd be happy if he came back to see me. If he shows up, I am friendly, remember things we talked about before and ask or comment about it, remember moves he liked and do them, light his cigarettes if he smokes, stuff like that.

    If I see a random guy I've danced for before, I will stop and offer some friendliness and see if he's interested in my company again. If not I wish him a good night, "maybe see ya later" and move along. If yes I will begin making an effort to remember his preferences, things we talked about last time, etc. I have great recall for such details so they are usually impressed. This is probably my biggest clincher for getting repeat business, since I don't do OTC contact.

    In general, I am a friendly girl, smile and giggle a lot, usually in a good mood at work, crack jokes and get guys laughing, do lots of eye contact and very sensual dances. This works for me to generate immediate repeat dances, and I guess it works to draw some of them back another time.

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