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    I had a very positive experience with this place www.hansplace.com
    This is a refereal for London, UK

    Mike Comins was my GP and when I was severly depressed he refered me to their in house therapist Susie.
    She didn't judge me about my job, she asked what I did, I told her and then we moved onto more important issues.

    I would highly recommend her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletPhoenix View Post
    Once they know, it's all THEY want to talk about.
    That is not a good therapist as one should talk about what one wants as that is usually what is bothering one.

    Therapists have to find out about ones life and a job or lack of one is important. If one drives a nitroglycerin truck it might be stressful to that person but if the therapist finds that the job is not an issue it should not be brought up by the therapist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletPhoenix View Post
    I could tell you a few therapists strippers should avoid . . . haven't personally found any good ones yet.



    Added for clarity:

    Every therapist I've been to wants to know off the bat what I do for a living. I don't know if that's relevant to therapy, or they just want to know if I can pay, or what, but that's the case. Once they know, it's all THEY want to talk about. Even though my day to day issues have nothing to do with my job, and do not occur in that setting.
    lol i feel like if you go to a therapy session and the therapist insists on talking about only what they want to talk about, then they should be paying YOU for your time because you are providing entertainment. If i am paying them, they had better be helping me... not just talking about stripping because they want to hear about it. And perhaps they might be somewhat concerned, but spending a full half hr or hour demanding a stripping discussion against a patients wishes is not helpful.

    a good night with good customers and lotsa money is the best therapy for me these days.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    /minor threadjack

    Does anyone else think this is screwed up? My mother-in-law started seeing a therapist when she moved to the area. She talked my wife into seeing the same therapist. Not together; in individual sessions. And the therapists talks about them to each other? WTF?

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    Depending on what the therapist talks about, that could be a violation of patient privacy. They are supposed to protect the patients privacy, the only exceptions being if they percieve the patient to pose a future physical threat to themselves or others, or maybe if they had a subpoena by court (Im not sure about this last one. am sure about hte first two though). If the therapist just talks about them to eachother in the sense "oh i see how you feel about your daughter in law. Maybe you can handle this situation with your daughter in law like this..." then that is acceptable, but "well this situation with your daughter in law arised because of ___ which she told me last session." If the therapist discusses things discussed with in the session that is not allowed, but i think they can discuss eachother in general.

    Either way, that is weird. Sounds like trouble for you.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    I believe she is doing that. And it's my mother-in-law and wife, so it's a mother/daughter thing... I told my wife it was a conflict of interest, but she keeps going...

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    oh sorry i misread...i thought it was your mom and your wife.

    ya thats not good if privacy is being violated. However, sometimes family treatments can be good. I moved out of my house on compromise when i was 17--- one of the agreements was i had to see my moms shrink once a week so he could kind of keep tabs on me. my mother obviously came up in the sessions, since i moved out because of my mom, and we talked about her, but he didnt violate her privacy. He saw both of my parents together too-- they would see him as a couple or sometimes individually. It sometimes had benifits. So its not too uncommon for family members to see the same therapist. Just make sure their deep dark secrets arent being discussed iwth eachother.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    I know we gotta have at least one psychology major on SW? Whoever it is please show yourself
    Does it have to be a pink or can it be a blue? I've though about a career change and psychology has always fascinated me. How would dancers feel about a "Stripper-Positive Therapist" who is also a frequent customer (of other dancers, not the patients)? I wonder if there could be too much "positiveness"?

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    At some point in the next five years I will be a therapist and while I plan to specialize in sexuality, I view dancing so much as a job, not a lifestyle, that it somehow never occurred to me that offering counseling to other dancers might be covered by that. I suppose it would depend on the dancer. Huh. Guess I finally found a way to fit stripping onto a resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    Haha, blue counts but I wouldn't want to see my therapist at the club I worked at.
    Why not? I think as a good stripper-positive therapist, it would almost be essential for me to visit my patients at their work environment. Observing how you dance (e.g., fast, slow, with a smile or a stearn face, etc.), how much you drink, how you flirt, etc., would reveal a lot to me concerning whether dancing has a positive or negative effect on you.

    Also, I like SCs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Why not? I think as a good stripper-positive therapist, it would almost be essential for me to visit my patients at their work environment. Observing how you dance (e.g., fast, slow, with a smile or a stearn face, etc.), how much you drink, how you flirt, etc., would reveal a lot to me concerning whether dancing has a positive or negative effect on you.

    Also, I like SCs...

    I think this is a little ridiculous. What therapist follows any of their clients around in their daily life? Anyone could be hiding things from their therapist, a secretary could just as easily be hiding how much she drinks from her therapist. I really doubt you'd be able to tell whether dancing is a positive or a negative in someone's life based on whether they like to dance fast or slow, or how often they smile. In some clubs stage just doesn't matter that much and girls just save their energy for other things. There plenty of reasons girls might not smile or be high energy at work and it doesn't mean that dancing is bad for them.

    I think most therapists would agree it would actually be wildly inappropriate to go watch their clients stripping. There needs to be boundaries in that relationship, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post

    What would you say about someone that will have 1 or two lemon drops on shift (bought by a customer, not herself), smiles always, and is energetic on stage but at the same time doesn't like doing anything to raunchy such as spreading legs or jiggling butt?
    Lets take a moment to be clear on the fact that Jack is not a therapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    I think this is a little ridiculous. What therapist follows any of their clients around in their daily life? Anyone could be hiding things from their therapist, a secretary could just as easily be hiding how much she drinks from her therapist.
    Okay, I was being half-facetious... But, half-serious, too... I think a therapist would learn a lot from following their clients around... This could be a new form of therapy that consists of 3/4 listening to the patient, and 1/4 following them around surreptitiously. You know what they say - actions speak louder than words. Anyone can tell you they either love or hate their job, but watching them perform it would reveal a lot more than what they say when they are in the therapist's office.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    I really doubt you'd be able to tell whether dancing is a positive or a negative in someone's life based on whether they like to dance fast or slow, or how often they smile. In some clubs stage just doesn't matter that much and girls just save their energy for other things. There plenty of reasons girls might not smile or be high energy at work and it doesn't mean that dancing is bad for them.
    Body language reveals a lot of things that people try to conceal. A good reader of body language will spot the incongruity in a person's demeanor and body language that reveals insincerity and deceit. So you can read a person's genuine responses to what's happening around them, and see through all that person's bullshit. Is she comfortable and confident? Or is she dreading every second and drinking herself to oblivion just to get through the night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    Okay, I can see where you are coming from. I would assume the girls who always have to drink before they get on with work are the ones who are effected in a negative way by the job.

    What would you say about someone that will have 1 or two lemon drops on shift (bought by a customer, not herself), smiles always, and is energetic on stage but at the same time doesn't like doing anything to raunchy such as spreading legs or jiggling butt?
    When you go to a restaurant, mall, bar or anywhere else where people work, can you tell who are the people that: (1) actually enjoy their work, (2) neither hate it nor love it, and (3) dread every second of it? It's not hard to form an opinion on this. It might be a little trickier with dancers because they are also actresses, but you could probably observe them between dances when they are in between "acts".

    I don't think anyone likes every aspect of their job. Even people who love their job usually loathe at least one part of it. So not liking the "raunchy stuff such as spreading legs or jiggling butt" is probably not conclusive in determining whether it is positive or negative for you.

    A little drinking is probably okay... A lot of drinking would be negative for all the obvious reasons.

    I would look at the big picture... How you relate to customers and other dancers; whether your body language indicates moderate or strong incongruity (e.g., a little bit of fakeness is normal but too much fakeness shows insecurity and tension). There are very subtle body language cues that indicate whether you are comfortable and confident or insecure and tense... Obviously, being comfortable and confident in your job would tend to show that it is mostly positive, even if you don't enjoy certain aspects of it...

    On the other hand, the dancer that acts happy and smiles all the time, but whose body language indicates tension, insecurity and apprehension for most of the night (she is drinking too much or running out to smoke every five minutes) -- this is a negative reaction to her work, granted, there may be other factors, such as this is her first day, she just had a big fight with her BF, she just found out she is pregnant, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    This could be a new form of therapy that consists of 3/4 listening to the patient, and 1/4 following them around surreptitiously.
    Who is going to pay for this? This isn't the Seattle Police Department. An office visit with a Psychologist is at least $225 an hour; a Psychiatrist twice that. Insurance companies are notorious for not wanting to pay for mental health; good luck getting anyone to pay you to stalk a stripper.

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    When thinking about a degree I could use post stripping and porn, I actually decided on psychology because if I don't have real world experience with sex and relationships than no one does. You can all look me up in 7 years lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Who is going to pay for this? This isn't the Seattle Police Department. An office visit with a Psychologist is at least $225 an hour; a Psychiatrist twice that. Insurance companies are notorious for not wanting to pay for mental health; good luck getting anyone to pay you to stalk a stripper.
    Since I plan on spending time at the SC anyway, I can give a good rate for my patient workplace visit.

    The most efficient way to provide this kind of therapy (which includes workplace observation) would be to retain a part-time in-house therapist. She (or he) would come to the SC once or twice a week to meet the dancers, talk to them about their issues and watch them work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Since I plan on spending time at the SC anyway, I can give a good rate for my patient workplace visit.
    Yeah, that's not creepy or questionable at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    Yeah, that's not creepy or questionable at all.
    I was kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy_Guy View Post
    Not to be too much of a trouble-maker, but searching for a therapist who only tells you what you want to hear????

    Just because something is legal doesn't mean squat. It may still be bad for you.
    It's not the part about being told what one wants or doesn't want to hear, it is being told that your only source of income is an issue. Some of us feel more well adjusted in the stripping industry than we would working in a non-sex related job. Being closed minded about the fact that not everyone is trying to achieve sainthood is a communication problem-- most especially with a therapist.


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    My first therapist was terrible. She had so many fucking issues. I went there to try and deal with rape and abuse issues from a past relationship, and she refused to really address those at all. Instead, she harped on my pre-marital sex and told me that because I'd slept with my then-boyfriend on our second date, he would never respect me and he'd look at me like a whore. The relationship lasted about a year-and-a-half, and we still get along great.

    My next therapist was fantastic. That was after I was a stripper, and she had no problems with it whatsoever. So if anyone lives in the Albany-Saratoga area of NY, let me know, and I'll give you her info.

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    I am a former psychiatric nurse. I can't prescribe medication but I can do therapy and I know of who to and not to go to especially in the Nevada area.

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    Bruce Reed, Mphs Tn I wasn't still dancing when I went, but I revealed to him that I would probably return to that line of work. We had one bump. He asked me if I had ever been arrested for prostitution and I said,"Hell no! Was I supposed to be? I told you I was a dancer not a hooker." Bruce said,"You're right. I was making an assumption based on where you do your job and it was not fair." He told me most of his dancer clients he had were also former whores. He also said that it wasn't right to assume he knew the answer to questions he asked because a job is a job and nothing more. He's fabulous I think. I appreciated his honesty about that.
    Thank Goodness I smartened up! The old me is dead and gone.

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    This thread is surprising to me. Apparently I am naive. However, I am a psychology student and have had wonderful experiences in therapy.

    My therapist is a very conservative Jew and is active in her religious community as a "Jewish feminist" if you will. However, in our sessions she never judges me for what I do but communicates her unconditional positive regard for me. As a huminist therapist, this is part of her approach in building a relationship of trust with me.

    If anyone in the Philadelphia area needs a reccomendation I know of several good therapists.

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    I'm shocked. My therapist is actually openly coaxing me into returning to stripping. The support group leader did the same thing. If anyone is in the DC area I can recommend someone.

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