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    Last night one of the managers(he was security last night though) came up to me and asked me if I'd give him the $5 for the dance I did. To which I replied, "what dance?"

    He told me that the door guy watched me walk out of the LD room, when I hadn't been back there at all. So he let me go and I thought that was the end of it. I was a little annoyed at his insistance, but whatever, I was gonna let it go. But then the house mom was told over the radio that they wanted me back out on the floor. So the manager takes me over to the door guy and proceeds to ask me again if I'd been back there. I told him again that I hadn't, and he says, "but he saw you come out of there." I told him again that I didn't and then he said to me, "But why would he lie?"

    I don't know, why the hell would I lie?????

    So I looked at the door guy and asked him if he'd seen me come out of there, and he told me he was "pretty sure it was me"

    So I said, fine, go back and check the tape. Problem solved.

    I know I didn't go back there at all, but they had me so mad that I started actually second guessing myself, lol. I thought I was losing my mind.

    So 10/15 mins goes by, and I walk up to the manager, and ask him if he'd checked the tapes yet. He told me no, but they'd get to it in a few. I walk over the the office and talk to the GM, tell him what's up. And he checks the tapes.........and what does he find?

    That I hadn't gone near that damn couch room at all.

    He and I walk back to other manager and he tells him what he found out and all this guy could do was sit there with a dumb look on his face and say, "what?"

    I wanted an apology for the simple fact that when he said the words, "Why would he lie?" I pretty much took that as a round about way of calling me a liar without actually having to say the words. At least that is how I see it.

    He's the biggest douche bag in my eyes now, and if I ever manage to get an apology from him, I'm gonna tell his to stick it straight up his ass. I don't lie, I don't BS, I don't do any of that.

    So if you've managed to get to the end of my post, was I wrong to want an apology right then and there?

    Last night was a crap night for me, which I know added to my annoyance...but still.

    Sorry this was so long.

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    What the fuck is up with this club where all these dumbasses can stop doing real work to obsess over a possible $5???
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    No you're not wrong... but... you're not gonna get one either. Most of these guys are dicks. Be ther better person and let it go. It's not worth your time or energy.
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    Was he running a scam? I've seen bouncers try to scam dancers out of more money, especially if the girls seemed drunk or were busy and/or distracted. I've also seen cases where the VIP host writes down extra dances that girls didn't give in an attempt to get more money for themselves and the club.

    Watch that guy closely from now on. Spread the word to the other dancers to really pay attention to how many dances they are selling when he is on shift.


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    i had a club manager try to say i made mass money in a v.i.p. one day then told other people i fought with him over it and i really hadn't even made the stupid house fee yet because i didn't get automatically paid to be in the v.i.p. room they buy it from the club then you just kinda wonder in. well they (the customers) just ended up being duetches and i shouldn't of stayed in there as long as i did.

    but yea, apparently i can't go back to that club now because of it. fuckin a

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    No you're not wrong... but... you're not gonna get one either. Most of these guys are dicks. Be ther better person and let it go. It's not worth your time or energy.
    sadly, i agree. i think you fighting it might end up making your life a bit more difficult, but in the long run it will also prevent you from being screwed over.

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    A manager apologizing to a dancer? It'll never happen ... no matter how much you deserve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa G View Post
    A manager apologizing to a dancer? It'll never happen ... no matter how much you deserve one.
    Thats not true! I made the most a-hole manager at my one club get down on his knees and apologize to me once!

    I'd demand an apology from the manager and the door guy if I were you. But thats just me...

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    I don't know if it is worth the energy trying to get an apology. It's freaking ridiculous that they are trying to get every cent out of dancers - without us they can't charge $9's a beer or $1000's for a room and over priced champagne. They should have never pulled you off the floor or said anything while you were working; don't they understand an unhappy dancer makes less money? I made the mistake of letting a manager convince me I missed a stage set when I was positive I didn't. I wish I had been as on top of things as you were and applaud you for standing up for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKXXX View Post
    Thats not true! I made the most a-hole manager at my one club get down on his knees and apologize to me once!

    Good job!!

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    Default Re: Was I wrong to want an apology?

    You're not wrong to want an apology at all.

    I overheard this in another forum the other day:

    Women forgive and never forget. Men forget but never forgive.

    It all makes sense now. Not words to live by but I wouldn't expect an apology.




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    Thanx everyone. I'm just putting it behind me. That one manager is a douche anyway. I just know now where we stand.

    My GM and I talked for a minute about what happened on Saturday and what he said to me meant a lot more than an apology would from a security guy who's been managing for a month. So in my mind he's a douche with a title. I'll respect him because he's a manager, but I don't have to respect him as a person.

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    It truly makes me sad when I hear stories like this because the only clubs out there that I feel will last through these tough times are those that treat each other like family or at least a team. A team that has to work together for the common goal- keeping customers happy and the money flowing so that everyone in the business has a place to come and earn money to pay their bills.

    I don't think it is wrong to want an apology and I don't think that I am "dreaming" by thinking that clubs can be productive by ensuring trust with one another. And, I don't mean small clubs either. The best way to do business is to do it right. That includes paying attention to your hiring practices for employees and dancers. Something went wrong when they hired an untrusting manager who hires a dancer that he doesn't even trust and a doorman who barely trusts himself OR his own manager to pay attention to the lap dance room. Get where I am going?

    There is a break in each level in the chain of command and that shouldn't have been laid on your shoulders to defend yourself. Someone is in charge of the room and that someone should have collected your $5 as you walked out of the LD room. Since that didn't happen, that is their fault for not doing their own jobs!

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    I've run into thing similar to this before. It would be nice to have an apology... but don't expect it. Some people simply never learned how to say "I'm sorry".

    However, I do want to mention that I LOVE security cameras... I've told managers multiple times to check their tapes when they didn't believe me. The only thing that makes me mad is clubs that either don't have cameras or don't actually use their cameras.
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    ^^ or they are broken and they won't pay to fix them!

    OR just say they have them and use fake/mock cameras to keep the girls & custies in line... well that one isn't a totally horrible idea if the club won't/can't pay for the real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakita Kash View Post

    OR just say they have them and use fake/mock cameras to keep the girls & custies in line...
    That was my thought too. Overheard a story where a girl asked to see the video footage and they said "those cameras don't really work".

    Two things the clubs are too cheap to pay for real cameras like some businesses do to save a buck. Or they were lying to her so they would not have to go through the trouble of a) playing back the video, b) being proven wrong.




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