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    In the past few years I have noticed that in the general strip club environment dancers form cliques. I have decided that its a natural tendency for that to happen. I have also noticed that the main money makers never join any of the cliques and when they do there money goes way down. I really mean that they are the top moneymakers and then all of a sudden due to friendships they make maybe a quarter of what they used to make. Or perhaps, in some cases they are never part of a clique but spread their friendships throughout each clique to obtain an overall friendship throughout the club. Then the pressure of each clique does overwhelm them at times and they end up being the queen bee of the club or the narc at the club which leads to interdancer turmoil but since thay are at the top they don't fear their jobs. If your are one of the top-earners at your club, are you part of a clique or do you remain independent?

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    I am not a top earner at all the clubs I work at, but I am at one of my clubs. I remain independent of all cliques.

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    I wouldn't say I'm a top earner, but I'm definitely more of an independent person. I was never part of them when I was in high school and see no reason to start joining them now.

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    My clubs small, but what you're saying about the top earners spreading the love around is very accurate. These girls are professional hard working and don't drag co-workers into their drama. I definitely look up to them as role models and ever since then I've noticed my $$$ going up too. Then there are the cliquish drama ego queens that everyone assumes makes top $. I think their needy attitude has got to hurt their money, because none of the other dancers want to help out someone who's always selfish.

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    Cliques=drama (in my experience) and drama doesnt make you money!

    I avoid drama and bitchiness at all costs (I have very few friends from work, (3 girls) and the only reason we are friendly is we are similar OTC) and never talk money with the others (unless its a bad night all round, in which case Ill say "yeah Ive been slow too, lousy tippers" even if Ive had a good night)
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    I'm polite to everyone, but keep to myself. Wouldn't want to dilute my money making potential by getting caught up in and/or associated with other poeple's b.s. & I'd be damned if some other girl tried to ride MY coat tails to make $$$ off of MY hustle. Money outta my pocket? No way.

    If anything, the girls think I'm doing them a FAVOR when I dump a $20-40 custy in their lap (everyone's happy when their making $$$ right?!) - when what I'm REALLY doing is getting rid of the girls (aka "Klingons") & the low-spending custies - so that I can tend to the big spenders. Fucken sweet.

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    This is an incredibly true fact and happens 100% of the time at my club. I'm a top earner and all though I'm "friends" with a "clique" of girls I'm certainly not a part of it. I see new girls come and get mixed up with the cliques and all they ever do is sit in the back and complain about the money when really, it's good money, they are just either drinking or sitting in the DR all night. They get caught up in gossip and wasting time on a regular basis instead of being alone on the floor all night making money. I've worked with some of the same girls for many many years and I have no clue what thier stage name or real name is...so.....

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    ^^ Esp. if any of the girls are having a "crisis" (endless supply of those, right?!) & needs to vent, they expect YOU to sit in the DR to console them RATHER than work. If you don't, now YOU'RE an asshole. No thanx.

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    ^^ esp. If any of the girls are having a "crisis" (endless supply of those, right?!) & needs to vent, they expect you to sit in the dr to console them rather than work. if you don't, now you're an asshole. no thanx.

    In the words of tony montana: "fuck that! I don't need that shit in my life."
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    I wouldn't call myself a "top earner," but I do think it would be fair to say I'm in the Top 5 at work, as far as customer popularity and audience reactions. Our club isn't as cliquey as high school was, but there does seem to be the "popular" crowd. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people there would include me in that crowd, but the truth is that I don't really enjoy being around them; all they do is sit at the bar and horse around and criticize dancers they don't like, etc. If the club is dead, I will go sit with them for lack of anything else to do, but they certainly don't make much money doing that. I'd prefer to have a clique, or even just a buddy, to hustle with and promote. When I started at my club, there was a lot of that going on; lots of two-girl shows on stage and in the back, girls would bring customers up to the stage when a friend was on, etc. Now, I never really see that happening anymore. I don't know what happened. Kind of disappointing, actually.

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    This is completely accurate at my club. I'm probably the top earner in general (based on the fact that I have the most dances at the end of the night and that I'm charging double for my dances) and 95% of the girls at my club hate me for it. There is this one clique in particular that talk non stop shit about me and my best friend (who also happens to be a top earner) saying that we are dirty whores and that we are giving $10 dances (our dance price is $20, but I end up charging $30 or $40). It's absolutely hilarious to me that they have nothing better to do than sit in the corner of the club talking and laughing at us while we pick up guys to go to the VIP room. Not only that but they complain that because there are "dirty girls" and girl that "undercharge" they aren't able to make money. They also complain about being in debt and being broke yet I've never seen them get off their ass and actually ask customers for dances.

    Having friends at the club is fine. I have two good friends that I'd comfort if they were going through some serious drama because they are also my friends out side the club and I trust them. Being in a clique and "hanging out" during work hours is so immature and irresponsible.

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    Thanks for all the responses ladies. At my club we refer to the clique girls as stage fillers. Stage fillers are the girls who fill the stages and who can't make money so the top girls who don't get involved in the drama can sell vips! Please don't be a stage filler! But we do need those stage fillers so top girls can make money just understand the lowly place of the stage fillers. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oregonchick View Post
    Thanks for all the responses ladies. At my club we refer to the clique girls as stage fillers. Stage fillers are the girls who fill the stages and who can't make money so the top girls who don't get involved in the drama can sell vips! Please don't be a stage filler! But we do need those stage fillers so top girls can make money just understand the lowly place of the stage fillers. Lol.
    thata how I see it. I'm one of three top earners at my club. There's a clique at my club that hates me, and tries to hurt my $ by talking shit aboit me. It never works. In fact, it not only makes them look bad in front of the customer, but its like free publicity for me, because it makes the customer curious about me, and has sold me dances. Maybe I should be thanking them, lol.

    In answer to your question though, I have a couple of friends, but I'm not involved in a clique at all; especially since I quit drinking.

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    I have friends at work, but I'm not hanging out with a clique. We have a bunch of girls that hang out and basically just use each other. They hang out with the managers outside work and all that and they can totally have it. I got invited to hang out with them for a birthday party and me and my friend were like "yeah no thanks" and some of the girls couldn't imagine we would turn down a chance to go hang out with them. Basically it's 3 or 4 girls sucking up to one or two really manipulative girls. I think it's kind of pathetic myself. They're supposedly "top earners", but I make more than them plenty of nights, I just don't make a big deal out of it and the managers aren't all about me so new girls think that those cliquey girls are making a ton and they really aren't. Plus most of them are getting child support and alimony checks so it really doesn't matter to them if they make money or not and new girls don't know that either.

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    I usually kept to myself. I knew some of the other dancers from outside work but I really didn't hang with them because I wasn't as much of a party type or we didn't have shared interests. Now that I'm traveling I notice I tend to hang around other traveling dancers more. I still form friendships with the local dancers, but I see the traveling dancers a lot more often and stay in contact with them.

    When it comes to money or referring customers to other dancers I will admit that I will often refer them to a traveling dancer who I have rapport with first... but only because I know that they'll match what the customer is looking for. I still refer to local dancers, but not as often as I once did.
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    I usually keep to myself unless my personality clicks iwht a coworker then it is nice to have someone to talk to. My sense of humor is kind of offbeat and my lifestyle and background is very different from my coworkers at my current club, so i dont have much in common with them and usually dont really form friendships. I have made friends with a couple of girls since i started dancing, but not too many.

    As far as cliques and money, at my club it used to be hard to make money if you werent in the clique because the girls would kind of gang up and take the money customers who frequent the club. If you were an outsider it was difficult to accumulate many good regulars... I did well only because I was able to spot and hustle the traveling businessmen well enough to make up for not having many regulars. However, the ringleader was fired and things are changing now and the playing field is more even.
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    I'm not a top earner but I've never believed in being part of a clique for a number of reasons. When it comes to work, I'm polite to those who are polite to me but for the most part, I like keeping to myself so I don't have to become a part of anyone's drama. I'm there to make money not friends.

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    However, the ringleader was fired and things are changing now and the playing field is more even.
    Hmmm. Wonder what she was fired for?
    That's the worst though, when one of them actually has a brain cell and can network enough to money block the whole club. Good riddance.

    I don't get close to co-workers until I've been there about a year. Until then I don't know what kind of crazy they may bring! LOL I work alone for the most part and will bring in people I like if the custie asks for his friend. Otherwise it's best to keep a healthy distance. I find it's better to hustle alone so you don't have anyone else f-ing with your hustle style bringing extras or drugs or anything else into the picture.
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    I am definitely NOT the top earner but I'm in the group of high earners at my club, and I usually work independently. I much prefer working alone.. Many girls at my club work in two's, but that rarely works for me. The guys usually want one or the other and then someone gets the boot..

    I prefer to work by myself, but having good relationships with other dancers/waitresses is essential to making the big bucks.. You need them and they need you at times, so working together well is very important. When you have a customer who has a friend and they want you to bring a friend, it is important to have girls you are comfortable with to bring over. And if you tip the waitresses, and help them get tipped by the customers, they will bring you over if they have a big $ table.

    No matter what, it is important to be polite and professional to everyone in the club. You don't have to hurt others to make your money. Trying to help other girls if you can is a great quality.. And you will make more money overall if you are nice..Good karma
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