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    OK, this topic keeps showing up in other threads, so here it is by itself.

    Besides clearing out their savings account in cash and being incredibly good looking, how can a customer improve his experience in the club by something he does? What would a dancer suggest?

    I'm not looking for all of the negative things guys do, I'm looking for practical advice that would help some guys who might not know better, such as dressing up a little more and wearing a small amount of a good smelling cologne, smiling, and being respectful.

    What do some of your favorite clients do that works for you?

    Guys: what do you try to do?

    Go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    Besides clearing out their savings account in cash and being incredibly good looking, how can a customer improve his experience in the club by something he does? What would a dancer suggest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    Guys: what do you try to do?
    i think you pretty much listed all the hygienic things but forgot:
    -shower
    -shave (if you're not trying to grow or already have facial hair)
    -brush teeth
    -chew gum

    and above all else, like you mentioned:
    -BE RESPECTFUL

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    I have to ask, as long as he's not covered in dirt or reaking of BO, does anyone care if a customer "dresses up?" or if he wears cologne or not? It's an honest question, I personally don't care at all, but I'm wondering if other girls do? As long as they're clean, I really don't care if all the guys wear jeans and t shirts.

    I actually think listing those "negative things" would be more important if you want to tell guys how to behave in a SC. They're a lot more common than you would think, and so many guys really do just wander into a strip club with misconceptions that lead to such bad behavior. For instance, when it comes to the sex industry, people often get confused and think they are not just buying a service, but rather, buying access to the sex worker, and start asking all kinds of personal questions out of a misguided sense of entitlement.
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    Default Re: How to build a better customer

    Be clean
    Be respectful
    Spend generously

    Always remember that no matter how much you spend the lady can not live off of your business alone. She is at the club to work and when the time comes for her to move on to the next guy you need to accept that without turning into a whiny and needy spoiled brat....


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    I'm not sure dancers care about "better" customers all that much other than if their wallet gets better or rather, thicker. Beyond the really basic things such as not being really nasty smelling or obnoxious such that dispensing their service is just not worth it, I don't believe they spend the mental energy agonizing over how to build a better customer in terms of trying to tweak him. It's more like how does she get more customers or how does she get her existing customer base to spend more money recognizing she cannot really change them.

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    ^what he said - but there are exceptions.

    Having dated/lived with several dancers, I get to hear all about their nights. And they do talk about the nasty guys (by whichever definition applies, be in hygienic or action related), but they also - occasionally - talk about the good ones, the guys that looked good, spent respectfully, made good conversation, acted respectfully, made their day a little easier, and were respectful. Is there a common thread there..?

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    Just generally be a gentleman. If you notice that I've been on my feet all night..offer to buy me a drink before a dance, so I can sit a minute (I may decline if I need to keep hustling, but not normally). Don't waste my time chatting me up everytime I walk by your table if you can't spend money. Recognize it's a job and not a pickup bar....I'll make you feel like superman for a few hours if you don't act like a jerk.
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    Default Re: How to build a better customer

    I don't like your question because to me it sounds like you think its a leveled playing field....like the stripper and customer share the same goal to associate with good people.

    I completely respect the fact that the customer is paying me. Its not like we are on a date where he has to meet certain selective criteria I have of "good" men. Isn't that what's great about a dancer? You can come into the club as a shmoe and as long as you follow general rules about behaving appropriately and tipping well, the dancer will cater and serve you. Just as long as you respect her services deserve payment.

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    ^^ i agree. i think with me it is way more about how the customer behaves, treats me and spends than it is about his appearance and hygiene (or lack of).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    Besides clearing out their savings account in cash and being incredibly good looking, how can a customer improve his experience in the club by something he does?
    Go for it!
    It depends on what kind of experience he wants to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    I'm not sure dancers care about "better" customers all that much other than if their wallet gets better or rather, thicker. Beyond the really basic things such as not being really nasty smelling or obnoxious such that dispensing their service is just not worth it, I don't believe they spend the mental energy agonizing over how to build a better customer in terms of trying to tweak him. It's more like how does she get more customers or how does she get her existing customer base to spend more money recognizing she cannot really change them.

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    Maybe not how to 'tweak' customers as much as what are some things (Stated in the POSITIVE of course) that guys could do to make it easier to sell to him as opposed to the next guy?

    For example, two guys walk into the club and one is wearing a golf shirt and slacks, nice shoes and smells good...the other is wearing flip flops and shorts and smells a little ripe.

    Which one are most dancers going to gravitate toward?

    If guys get some of these tips from dancers, they might clean up their act a little and get more attention and/or options in the ladies that approach him. That's good for everyone.

    I'm not saying dancers can wave a wand and change a customer who is already there. I'm saying guys may read this and approach the club differently and more successfully for having read all of this...

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    Default Re: How to build a better customer

    "How can I be a good customer?"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=112359

    "What makes a good customer?"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=52830

    "Rules for cutomers"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=36352

    "What makes a great customer?"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=71568

    "Let's have a GOOD customer thread"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=115661

    "What makes good customer (ie how to brighten a dancer's day)"
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=41316
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    We can always count on you verf. Maybe instead of a search button we could have a verf button?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    Besides clearing out their savings account in cash and being incredibly good looking, how can a customer improve his experience in the club by something he does?
    I will spend money.

    Firstly, it's my belief that customers should refrain from visiting a club if they do not intend on buying dances or tipping stages that night. Not only do you waste the dancers' time, you're potentially costing them money they could have been earning from another customer who would have been willing to spend on them.

    I will spend money.

    I've always found my own club experience is better when the dancers are happy. I attempt to encourage this in a variety of ways.

    I will spend money.

    Obviously, everyone will say the number one thing a customer can do is spend money. More specifically though, I think the key is in how a customer spends money. IMO, it should be both generously AND frequently.

    I will spend money.

    Taking the focus off dancers for a brief moment, if you want to improve your club experience I think it's vitally important to tip the wait staff generously. Not only will they serve you faster and be more attentive to your needs, they will be much friendlier and project a positive vibe which is especially beneficial when a dancer joins you at your table. A dancer can obtain some hints about what kind of customer you could potentially be from the interaction between you and the waitress. If you've established a level of comfort with your waitress that allows her to laugh and joke with you, odds are you are a pretty good customer to her. In effect, you've been pre-screened by the waitress. If you tip the waitress generously, odds are you'll be generous to the dancer. If the waitress asks if you'd like to buy the dancer a drink and you readily accept or if you take the initiative and offer to buy a drink for the dancer on your own, odds are you'll be willing to spend more money on the dancer. I strongly believe it's important for customers to have ATF waitresses and to do their best to ensure they sit in their sections to reap the benefits.

    I will spend money.

    If you're sitting close to the stage, stage tipping should be a must by rule. You're receiving entertainment value from the stage show so it's only fair the dancer performing receives compensation for it. When stage tipping, tips should be offered freely and without strings. There's no need to make a dancer "work for it" as she's already on stage working for you.

    I will spend money.

    Buy dances! If you've allowed a dancer to sit with you for a while, you'd better be prepared to at least tip for her time if you're not going to buy dances. When it comes to buying dances, I have a self imposed rule of a two dance minimum per dancer. I believe single dance buyers are viewed as an annoyance by most dancers and so it's extremely rare that I'll stop after one dance. When I have, it's only because she's caused me some sort of unbearable extreme discomfort. Of course some guys may think I'm crazy for spending any additional money on a dance I'm not really into but I believe it still positively contributes to my club experience. Firstly, girls talk and I don't want to be identified as a one-and-done customer who then gets passed over by other dancers who's company I would have otherwise enjoyed. Or even if they don't talk, dancers are pretty observant and can see your spending habits. On the other hand, if you make frequent trips to the private dance area for extended periods of time, dancers will see that too and generally are more enthusiastic when approaching. I go into the club expecting to spend money anyway and burning the cost of a dance two or three times over the course of a night is something I'm prepared to do. I have a lot more fun when I don't have to constantly worry about stretching my dollars.

    I will spend money.

    Leave the club when you've exhausted your strip club budget. It goes back to the first point I made about not wasting the dancers' time and prevents you from being labeled a time waster.

    I will spend money.

    Always tip for dances as generously as one can afford. And when it comes to buying a block of dances (or time) where I'm getting a volume discount on dances, my personal rule is to always pay the equivalent of full price dances as a bare minimum. For example, if I'm getting a two-for-one dance, I'll pay her for the two dances. Or if I'm paying $300 for an hour (when single dances are $20/ea for approx 3 mins each), I'd give her $500 ($400 worth of full price dances plus an extra $100 tip which works out to only 20% if you think about it in those terms).

    I will spend money.

    I will never negotiate the price of a dance. I will never ask a dancer for change. I will never get so many dances from a girl that I can no longer afford to provide a good tip. I will never negotiate for contact. I will never request extras. I will never tell a dancer how to do her job. I will never request OTC. I will never ask for personal details. I will never offer backhanded compliments. I will never say anything bad about another dancer to her. I will never complain to her about her dances. I will never complain about the club or staff to her. I will never play mind games. I will never eat stage side (I've never understood this behavior as I think it's plain rude). I will never monopolize a dancer's time without spending money.

    I will spend money.

    I will be open to her approach. I will be comfortable with her comfort level. If all she's comfortable offering is an airdance, I will be content with that. I will let her take the lead. I will be as honest and modest as possible. I will respect her boundaries. I will try to keep the mood light and positive. I will pay attention to her as she speaks. I will always be polite. I will always thank her for her time.

    I will spend money.

    I will take a shower and wash my hair before going to the club. I will wear clothes that are freshly washed. Unless I've intentionally grown out facial hair, I will ensure I'm clean shaven. I will brush my teeth prior to going to the club and will carry some sort of breath freshening aids with me (e.g., mints, gum, breath strips, etc.). I will avoid food and beverages the day of a strip club visit that would contribute to bad breath (e.g., garlic, beer, etc.). With regards to cologne, I choose not to wear any and find it unnecessary particularly after just showering.

    I will spend money.

    Where lap dance clubs are concerned, I'll avoid wearing belts and button down shirts or shirts with zippers. While they may look good, I find the buttons/zippers can catch on a dancers clothes and are a source of discomfort for many dancers. On the other hand, I've received many compliments/thanks for wearing soft and smooth clothes. Other positive reinforcement I've received is compliments for smooth, soft skin (face, neck, arms, hands). Sorry to get all metro but moisturizing will always be appreciated. I also ensure my nails are maintained. Oh, and lip balm is a good idea too (no, not for kissing) as the sight of chapped lips is unsightly. Basically, just look presentable and ensure you're not the source of any unpleasant odors (which includes overpowering cologne).

    I will spend money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post

    For example, two guys walk into the club and one is wearing a golf shirt and slacks, nice shoes and smells good...the other is wearing flip flops and shorts and smells a little ripe.

    Which one are most dancers going to gravitate toward?

    For me, the only difference is the smell. So, let's assume the guy in the flip flops manages to take a shower before coming in. I would be just as likely to approach him as the guy in a golf shirt. I haven't noticed this to make a difference to other dancers in my club either. More likely, I will keep my eye on both and approach the one who seems more interested in me (and who shows more signs of being interested in spending). I haven't found that guys who dress slightly better are likely to spend more.
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    I will spend money....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    For example, two guys walk into the club and one is wearing a golf shirt and slacks, nice shoes and smells good...the other is wearing flip flops and shorts and smells a little ripe.

    Which one are most dancers going to gravitate toward?

    If guys get some of these tips from dancers, they might clean up their act a little and get more attention and/or options in the ladies that approach him. That's good for everyone.
    Honestly it's a strip club not a self-improvement seminar. If a guy is too stupid, or insensitive, to understand that showering is common courtesy I doubt he's going to get any help from dancers. In most cases they will hold their breath and take his money and then move on. If he is really stinking up the joint he is probably going to get ignored by a few ladies as well.

    In any event, being a good customer is common sense. Understand common courtesy and a lady's need to earn and you will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan28 View Post
    For example, two guys walk into the club and one is wearing a golf shirt and slacks, nice shoes and smells good...the other is wearing flip flops and shorts and smells a little ripe.

    Which one are most dancers going to gravitate toward?
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    Wear sweatpants.

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    what's a "postive" way of saying don't blow on us?
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    what's a "postive" way of saying don't blow on us?
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    Please keep your hands directly over your mouth and nose at all times

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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
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    Please keep your hands directly over your mouth and nose at all times

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    Unless you're reaching for your wallet, of course.
    Pssh. They won't be needing that. I'll keep it safe for them.
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    you ladies crack me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    what's a "postive" way of saying don't blow on us?
    Well there's always the retaliation avenue. You could blow something back...

    Maybe a better tack would be saying "Is there a breeze in here?" then tell the story about a guy blowing on you one time and you accidentally impaled his head with your stiletto...

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