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    Does anyone ever think maybe being a stripper earn bad karma points?

    Dancing for married men? Yes, he came in here looking for it anyway, but are we helping him sin? Maybe not helping, but letting him "fall".
    The bible mentions a responsibilty for actions, and knowledge of things. Other religions do as well.

    What about leading guy on to get his dough? YES, I know lots of guys go in there knowing the deal, and people should be responsible for their actions. But many guys come in believing there's a possibility of a date or whatever. Many of us prey on it and string him along to keep getting paid.

    Any more examples?

    No flaming here. This is an honest question for those who might have useful input or an opinion.

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    DISCLAIMER: I am not now, nor ever would, make a judgement call about what one does for a living (unless like murder for hire or something). If what I say comes across like that, I apoligize in advance, it is NOT my intention.

    Well, I for one am glad you brought this up. I've kinda had thoughts along the lines you mentioned, in the past. I really don't know what to say/think about it, though. I really don't like what I do now, (although presently not dancing, in the adult industry). It does bother me, & I'm sending out resumes for 'regular' jobs, but. You know how things are. I also don't like what else I'm doing, which is telemarketing, I just got hired on, & damn it sucks in so many ways. This (telemarketing) co. claims they don't 'lie' to people, but please I beg to differ.
    And, really when I think about it, don't all (or at least many) 'regular' businesses operate in similar ways?


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    I get you. There's a difference in highlighting your good attributes (any business) and quite another to manipulate and lie.

    I just feel that maybe we WILL be held accountable for our actions. Whether it be through judgement day, spiritual karma, or the "positivity and negativity" of the universe.

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    There are times when men get really into me, to the point where I know they will emotionally suffer for it. Like, you can see them falling completely in love with you. Those moments make me feel really bad. Stringing them along for their money - not so much. Adults have free will, and have the responsibility of using it properly. But unexpected emotional consequences prick at my conscience a bit.

    Not being Christian, the married man dilemma doesn't come off as a bad deed I have committed. My fiance and I go to strip clubs together. I think there are married couples where wives realize its just a form of "man time" that isn't directly challenging the relationship. Now, if I man is being a douche, talking about how he is married but wants extras on the side (well any man that wants extras is a douche) thats different. I don't want to associate with people that disgusting whether it adds to my paycheck or not

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    I don't believe my karma will be affected by my job. Any man old enough to gain admission into a stripclub knows the game. They know it will be full or nude or nearly nude women who's job it is to separate them from their money.

    You can't know the rules of the game, play the game then pitch a fit when you 'lose' the game.

    That is just how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelight View Post
    Dancing for married men? Yes, he came in here looking for it anyway, but are we helping him sin? Maybe not helping, but letting him "fall".
    I don't believe in sin. Marriage is a man made law and has nothing to do with the universe.

    What about leading guy on to get his dough?
    Maybe. I try to be as ethical and honest as possible not that, that makes things any better. Again, money is man made. It's not a universal law.

    If a persons intentions are wrong then I think that person may be worried about karma.

    You're there to make a living and if you do it honestly and ethically great. Same if you're a customer and just want some entertainment and even if it gets wild as long as it's mutual, to me no harm done.

    If a guy goes in to rip you off because he hates women or a dancer is there as 'revenge' to the male species...it comes back twofold.

    Just my thoughts.

    PleasureVictim: "You can't know the rules of the game, play the game then pitch a fit when you 'lose' the game."

    Good call. No sour grapes in this world.




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    I felt my very short stint (as in, one day) as a telemarketer and my year and a half working as a sales rep in college were more demoralizing and full of negative karmic energy than dancing has been. Coached to 'say anything' for a sale so as to make the store's sales look better selling useless add-ons and, with the telemarketing, discovering the shady,' illegal' tactics they used to sell toner to unsuspecting companies (cringe) made me feel more like I was contributing to 'the bad side' of business than my personal interactions in strip clubs.

    I never promise what I won't deliver, con people out of money, nor sell them things they don't really need. Relatively speaking, men don't need to have their libidos aroused by strange women yet it is an implied 'want' when they enter into a strip club. I will not tell them x amount of money gets them a, b, or c if it is not within club rules or my own personal standards.

    I am often too honest in not leading people on and would rather them peg me as being 'too liberated and 'wild' to want to pursue a real relationship with and that when Iwant their money, I want it simply because I want it and they can give it to me because they think I'mpretty, a good dancer, a charismatic personality, etc but it is only in the limits of my ability to connect pleasantly with them and not because they are coerced into giving me money for a service I never intended to provide to them in the first place.

    With the aforementioned college jobs, once the sale was made, it was out of my hands if they discovered they didnt really need all those accesories for their cell phone, direct tv, etc or that they were being swindled into accepting an order they never signed up for in the first place!


    But I can't be upset with myself or my club for expecting to be compensated for a service they are providing for men who came in of their own volition whether they run across a 'shark' or 'r.o.b.' or not. It all comes down to how each individual runs their own business. It is not my job to find out whether or not they are married and whether their wife is ok with them being there or not any more than it is a bartender's responsibility to make sure a patron is an alcoholic or not before serving them a drink. They'll deal with their own karma if they have it coming to them!
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    Default Re: Karma and this job...

    none of the customers are ever forced in there, like the other ladies said.

    i think it would be bad karma if i was cutthroat or something like that, such as spreading rumors to custies about my coworkers. i think it would be bad karma if i promised extras and didnt do them. and as london put it, i cant feel bad if a custy is mad i didnt do something i told him i wouldnt from the start. it's bad karma on his part to try and push someone around- call a hooker instead!

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    We all have to be responsible for providing for ourselves, so as not to be a burden on society. I believe every action has a reaction, and I try to apply much of the money I make towards good things (i.e. travel expenses for pilgrimages to further spiritual advancement, charity work, etc.) It gives me peace of mind & that's most important to me.

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    Nope not a chance in hell. All strippers go to heaven. We're in VIP.
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    Strippers are therapeutic for these "married men". If anything, we're doing GOOD.
    But then again, I have gone back and forth on it, whether or not to feel bad.... In the end I don't feel bad I feel great! I made enough money in two months to pay cash for my new boobies!

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    I used to really worry about this a lot ! But I don't think we have bad karma now. Some men feel a strong Want/NEED to go oogle titties. Why not let them pay for it?
    If there weren't strip clubs, I'm convinced more adultery / lying/ sneaking around would happen and then womens feeling get hurt ( when the guy just wants to use you for sex/see you naked or whatever ). Club provide an outlet for that sexual energy without hurting anyone. Or ..... maybe that's just what I tell myself.

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    the dilemma i face with this job is that as a buddhist it is not "right living". i couldn't give two shits about the married men or any men. i'm more concerned that what i'm doing is not helping society, its only promoting superficiality. i would like to get implants but i know its not what's important. spending that money on a trip to thailand to volunteer would do everyone a lot more good. not against anyone who has implants at all, i spend most of my money fighting off acne, getting expensive facial treatments every week. so i'm not saying i'm better than anyone, just that sometimes i wish i could get out of the business to focus on what's really important and not just looks, but its fucking HARD! $$$ =

    on another note though, i keep my stripper karma high. i always help out other girls if possible and help customers find the perfect girl for them if its not me. i find it comes back around, but even if not, makes me feel good anyway.

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    No way. It's a business transaction. Basic sales. Now as far as what it does to each individual involved, that's got everything to do with their own personal journey. I stopped dancing because I began to feel bruised deep within. But I have a very sensitive "energy field" (don't really know how else to call it) and so I just wasn't prepared with enough armor. I know better now and am shining up my shields, getting ready to give it another go.

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    This is all stemmed from reading the bible. Been reading it for about a year. I threw in the karma and stuff who people who don't read it.
    As time passes and you gather more knowledge, there's a certain responsibility that comes with it. To turn a blind-eye to what you already know is wrong is like turning your back on Him. But, hello, that i why christians don't strip, lol.

    Was just wondering if anyone else had similar thoughts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelight View Post
    This is all stems from reading the bible. Been reading it for about a year. As time passes and you gather more knowledge, there's a certain responsibility that comes with it. To turn a blind-eye to what you already know is wrong is like turning your back on Him. So, it's a process.
    Please remember that in giving us free will he gave us the ability to CHOOSE what we want to do and be in our lives. It doesn't mean that everything you do is right or wrong. It means that he has faith in you to determine right and wrong for yourself. Respect yourself. Respect the people around you (even when they have no respect for themselves or you). Respect the sanctity of life (yours and others). Live your life in the way you want while remembering and respecting your creator. Nothing about stripping is inherently evil. When all is said and done, it's your character you will be judged by, not whether or not you took your clothes off or took money from married men. If they are sinning by being there, they will answer for that. Not you.
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    Wow interesting topic and I'm glad you brought it up. I think about this all the time. Going back and forth about it. But, as it has been put out there already, many jobs operate in a deceitful manner and I feel are worse than what we do. Not trying to legitimize it by saying that, I am simply saying that business is business and just because we are naked for men, doesn't make us BAD. How you live your life and the way you treat people is going to affect your karma more than dancing for a guy who came in on his own free will. If you treat people well, with respect and love, that is all that matters.
    I agree exactly with what london said. Other jobs I've worked in sales have made me feel more like a con artist that ANY thing else in my life. Stripping, I am straight up, honest, and try to never lie, cheat, or steal, to make my money. Yes, there are times I am not perfect and I might say more than I should, but in the end I try my best to live a positive life and not hurt anyone I come in contact with. At work, I am ALWAYS trying to be as nice and caring as I can, as is my personality to make sure no one has hurt feelings. I try to be fair and sensitive to these men, not some manipulative bitch that is only out for their wallets. I try to help as many people as I can, and when opportunities arise for me to show compassion, I take it. We ARE in an opportunity to help people. Especially since people sometimes come to us when they are down and out, we are given the chance to uplift them. it is not usually what people think it is. Some of the best moments Ive had in the club is when I've had the opportunity to help someone.

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    I think that there are opportunities to help people in strip clubs, same as there are everywhere. Sometimes, although rarely, a customer does just need a friend (or the appearance of one), or just some human contact. Also, you can set a good example for new girls. I think the good and the bad can even out.

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    Nope, no way. It's the way you conduct yourself that decides whether you have good or bad Karma, not the title of your occupation.
    It is possible to be ethical and hold good values as a dancer. You can still make money by being a good decent person and not 'leading people on to get their dough'.
    Well I can anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    the dilemma i face with this job is that as a buddhist it is not "right living". i couldn't give two shits about the married men or any men. i'm more concerned that what i'm doing is not helping society, its only promoting superficiality. i would like to get implants but i know its not what's important. spending that money on a trip to thailand to volunteer would do everyone a lot more good. not against anyone who has implants at all, i spend most of my money fighting off acne, getting expensive facial treatments every week. so i'm not saying i'm better than anyone, just that sometimes i wish i could get out of the business to focus on what's really important and not just looks, but its fucking HARD! $$$ =

    on another note though, i keep my stripper karma high. i always help out other girls if possible and help customers find the perfect girl for them if its not me. i find it comes back around, but even if not, makes me feel good anyway.
    Just curious, if you weren't stripping would you have been able to go to Thialand and do your good work?
    I know in my case I wouldn't have been able to afford a large farming property which I am now converting into a native animal refuge.
    I don't believe in god but for those who do perhaps that is an example of 'god moving in mysterious ways'?

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    I voted yes ... can't really offer any logical reason, just 10+ years worth of wierd personal experiences.

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    Nope. God knows how much I need that money right now.

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    I don't believe in karma. Well, actually, I've never fully researched the religious concept completely. I should say, I don't believe in the simplified idea of karma that people usually mean. It doesn't seem to me that people really do get what they deserve so often in this world.

    I will say that there have been moments when I've found myself in a morally sticky situation at work. Like someone else said- when you see someone really getting too wrapped up in the fantasy, and you know there's likely going to be a hard let down, that's a difficult situation. I don't always know how to handle that exactly, and I don't feel too good about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I voted yes ... can't really offer any logical reason, just 10+ years worth of wierd personal experiences.
    Wow really? What is one of your weird personal experiences.

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    i lol at karma

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