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    Duh Don't go to strip clubs....

    If you're gonna bitch about the recession!

    I am so sick of hearing customers coming into the club bitching about the fkn recession....

    Here is a tip....


    Don't go out if you can't afford it! That's like going out to eat but can't afford to buy dessert & tip the waitress. We work for tips also, you know.

    We know everyone is hurting, so are we! I am also sick of hearing how we're recession proof & how "it looks busy in here tonight".... as if ppl are spending. NO! That doesn't mean ppl are spending. They're just sitting there, taking up space & wasting our time.

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    But how else can I import to you the fact that the dollar I give you is really equivalent to a twenty of just a few years ago and I'm expecting you to provide stripper attention like it is a $20. Cuz it was...once; before I lost my retirement, then my job and now I'm upside down in my house. Don't I deserve a dance for my dollar (really $20)? Can I at least get a hug and a kleenex?

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    I prefer to accentuate the positive, wherever I go.

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    OMG, a guy came into my club, and was drinking a scotch on the rocks and smoking a cigar. We chatted for a few songs, and when I asked if he was ready for a dance, he said, "I really can't afford a 20$ dance right now. I literally don't have that much money to spend right now." So frustrating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    OMG, a guy came into my club, and was drinking a scotch on the rocks and smoking a cigar. We chatted for a few songs, and when I asked if he was ready for a dance, he said, "I really can't afford a 20$ dance right now. I literally don't have that much money to spend right now." So frustrating!

    Tell me about it! I had one cry about the recession over a fucking 20 dollar dance. Are you kidding me?!! Then he says he was gonna leave and felt like an ass when he saw me a few minutes later while chugging down his beer. lol. Freaking cheap assholes taking up space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    I prefer to accentuate the positive, wherever I go.
    One of the more awesome viewpoints! It'd be nice if we saw more of this and less of the doom and gloom shit. We can't help it if the economy has tanked. We haven't done a thing to cause it and history says it will correct itself.
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    OMG, a guy came into my club, and was drinking a scotch on the rocks and smoking a cigar. We chatted for a few songs, and when I asked if he was ready for a dance, he said, "I really can't afford a 20$ dance right now. I literally don't have that much money to spend right now." So frustrating!
    This would make me want to smack the piss out of them. WTF are they doing in a SC?!?! I really hate having to hear guys whine about having no money in the club...Really if you don't have that much cash, limit your visits so you can actually spend and not waste our time when you DO come in.
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    I had two today. I worked on the first one and pulled a few dances, then a few more, then got him into a room but it was loooong haaaard work. He was mean to the other girls, loudly calling them names but I had to hang tough and be cheery because I could smell money. The second I got a nice meal and tip from but could not get more because he insisted on extras.

    We've got to push past their bitchin' and remember that a lot of time if you work on them gently and make them feel you are utterly enamored with them you can get them to an ATM if necessary. The first dude was crying poor from a bad day at the tables but damn if he didn't 'magically' find 2 hundreds in his pocket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Ernie View Post
    But how else can I import to you the fact that the dollar I give you is really equivalent to a twenty of just a few years ago and I'm expecting you to provide stripper attention like it is a $20. Cuz it was...once; before I lost my retirement, then my job and now I'm upside down in my house. Don't I deserve a dance for my dollar (really $20)? Can I at least get a hug and a kleenex?
    That's my approach these days. I gotta keep reminding myself how precious your money is! It's the only way I can slow down and be even more jovial and flirty. I probably take twice as much time with customers this year as compared to last. Last year I'd say charge it and get whisked to a room pretty quickly. NOW I butter and flatter and laugh and joke then finally start suggesting a dance/room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    If you're gonna bitch about the recession!

    I am so sick of hearing customers coming into the club bitching about the fkn recession....

    Here is a tip....


    Don't go out if you can't afford it! That's like going out to eat but can't afford to buy dessert & tip the waitress. We work for tips also, you know.

    We know everyone is hurting, so are we! I am also sick of hearing how we're recession proof & how "it looks busy in here tonight".... as if ppl are spending. NO! That doesn't mean ppl are spending. They're just sitting there, taking up space & wasting our time.
    I know you are blowing off steam so I'll point out the obvious only because it might help your bottom line.

    The club and how it advertises itself and its word of mouth is what brings customers through the door. Dancers have little impact on that so you have to work with what you have.

    To maximize profit potential that means having a happy face and being upbeat DESPITE the fact that you are dealing with customers who are leaner in the purse than they have been before, and or if they are tempted to talk about it.

    It is what it is. Good hustle means working with that and making as much as you can in spite of it.

    While I am pretty sure soaking a guy whose playing with the rent money is not ethical I'd say that as long as you avoid taking advantage of damaged goods "Optimist" has the right idea about how to exist in this economic climate.
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    while we're on the subject, I'm also sick of house moms and other dancers talking up other cities or clubs where supposedly all the money went, like "If you go out West you'll find gold and strike it rich!" I call BS, there's no hidden place where some dancers are secretly making thousands every night. The house mom last night was insistent that if I work NASCAR in some city coming up soon, I will make 6K a night. She has "seen it with her own eyes!" and she was dead serious, 6K. Come on now!
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    Ya every club has been hit hard everywhere. While I can't stand the complainers, I also can't stand the guys who act like money isn't an issue to them even in this down economy, yet they won't spend shit. Like I had two guys spend around $200 on bottle service and talk about how great their jobs are and blah blah blah, yet they couldn't be bothered for dances. If you aren't going to spend money on the girls, just stay home, PLEASE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    I know you are blowing off steam so I'll point out the obvious only because it might help your bottom line.

    The club and how it advertises itself and its word of mouth is what brings customers through the door. Dancers have little impact on that so you have to work with what you have.

    To maximize profit potential that means having a happy face and being upbeat DESPITE the fact that you are dealing with customers who are leaner in the purse than they have been before, and or if they are tempted to talk about it.

    It is what it is. Good hustle means working with that and making as much as you can in spite of it.

    While I am pretty sure soaking a guy whose playing with the rent money is not ethical I'd say that as long as you avoid taking advantage of damaged goods "Optimist" has the right idea about how to exist in this economic climate.
    I always have a happy face/vibe in the club, no matter how i'm feeling. I'm just ranting here bc obviously, i can't say shit in the club. It's not fair that some of these guys come in, letting us know they have money & don't give us shit. It's like waving food at a starving person.

    If someone comes playing with rent money, honestly... that's not my fault he walked in there with it. Not my problem. Again, if he can't afford it then don't come in. Simple.

    I've had a few men already ripping me off last week(2 guys...who have no business being in there in the first place). That has NEVER happened to me before. This one guy bought 3 dances from me, paid me for 2 then ran out before I had a chance to say anything. Although, it wasn't much money to me... but the principle of it... was a REAL DICK move!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSimone View Post
    Ya every club has been hit hard everywhere. While I can't stand the complainers, I also can't stand the guys who act like money isn't an issue to them even in this down economy, yet they won't spend shit. Like I had two guys spend around $200 on bottle service and talk about how great their jobs are and blah blah blah, yet they couldn't be bothered for dances. If you aren't going to spend money on the girls, just stay home, PLEASE...
    Yeah I dealt with those too. So frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    If someone comes playing with rent money, honestly... that's not my fault he walked in there with it. Not my problem. Again, if he can't afford it then don't come in. Simple.
    Amen. I don't know why this has to be explained to some guys on this site over and over again. If you do not have money to go to a SC, do not go to an SC. Anyone who goes to a SC with his rent money has no one to blame but himself. Sales people are there to sell things, not help you manage your personal finances. It really shouldn't be hard to figure out.

    Then again, I also don't know why some guys feel the need to lecture us on the most basic and obvious information as if they've hit upon some special secret ("being positive helps you make money!"...duh), but I'm just glad that most of the regulars in CC know a little better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    Amen. I don't know why this has to be explained to some guys on this site over and over again. If you do not have money to go to a SC, do not go to an SC.
    You are absolutely correct every one should stay home and spend quality time with his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    Anyone who goes to a SC with his rent money has no one to blame but himself. Sales people are there to sell things, not help you manage your personal finances. It really shouldn't be hard to figure out.
    True enough, but here's the thing. A lot of dancers (dare I say all?) rely on guys, even the ones with money, not thinking too clearly. You want the ones with little cash to smarten up and stay away and the ones with the cash to keep thinking whatever it is that they are thinking that keeps them coming in. It would be nice for you, but you can't have it both ways. There have always been guys in the clubs who couldn't afford to be there and there will always be those guys. The problem is there are less guys with significant disposable income inclined to spend it in a strip club nowadays. When these guys find it necessary to trim their spending, the SC is the first place to cut.
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    The irony is that the only way we're gonna improve the economy is to spend spend spend. So guys, spend your money on lapdances because i will take that money and go shopping with it thus boosting the retail sector and securing the jobs of people who work in it.

    What goes around comes around.

    But yes, i agree. Strip clubs are not your local bar. They are places you go to when you want to and intend on throwing down some cash. The guys who have the most fun are the ones who spend! You get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    I always have a happy face/vibe in the club, no matter how i'm feeling. I'm just ranting here bc obviously, i can't say shit in the club.
    I figured as much, which is why I said I knew you were just blowing off steam. Just don't let it carry over and effect your "game face".

    It's not fair that some of these guys come in, letting us know they have money & don't give us shit. It's like waving food at a starving person.
    Probably not, but people do it all the time. The best revenge is to get what you need regardless.

    If someone comes playing with rent money, honestly... that's not my fault he walked in there with it. Not my problem. Again, if he can't afford it then don't come in. Simple.
    Hmmm. You have to remember that each and every coin has two sides. If you want to let that side stand than you have to be willing to let this statement stand as well: "Yeah, its OK to try and get over on a dancer if you can. Touch parts she doesn't want touched, [even more germane] take advantage if she's had too much to drink that night. After all she came into the club knowing what was what and its all good."

    Now, I don't think the above is right and I don't think you do either. Sauce for the goose and all... If you want fairness you have to be willing to give it and that means if you *know* someone's on the edge you don't push a little just to see if s/he falls just because you can.

    I've had a few men already ripping me off last week(2 guys...who have no business being in there in the first place). That has NEVER happened to me before. This one guy bought 3 dances from me, paid me for 2 then ran out before I had a chance to say anything. Although, it wasn't much money to me... but the principle of it... was a REAL DICK move!
    Yes it was, and never was one person being a dick a good excuse for someone else to be one. Its the old two wrongs rule.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    Amen. I don't know why this has to be explained to some guys on this site over and over again.
    Again, if you are a little over the edge one night does that mean its OK for some customer to take advantage and get you to do something YOU wouldn't ordinarily do? Is it OK if you are a little drunk to take you into the VIP and take advantage of your intoxicated state?

    Its simple logic. The equation has to be equivalent on either side of the "=" sign or it just doesn't add up.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    ^^^ There's quite a difference between suggesting that someone who doesn't have money to burn refrain from going to expensive establishments, and suggesting that it's somehow ok to sexually assault someone. As a sales person, it IS my job to try to sell dances,and this should be expected. If I go to a furniture store, I can expect someone will try to sell me furniture. If I go to a car dealership, I can expect someone will try to sell me a car. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that in a strip club, someone is going to try to sell you a dance. It is not my job to be the recipient of whatever sexual abuse someone wants to throw my way. I'm not sure what you're trying to say. An analogous situation seems to be if I went to an expensive restaurant, got pissed that I couldn't reasonably afford anything, and instead of leaving decided to spend my rent money on a lavish dinner anyway, then verbally abuse the waitress to make myself feel better. Doesn't sound reasonable to me. A woman who's raped in a vip room clearly is a victim. A guy who walked into a strip club and spent money he shouldn't have of his own free will...not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    ^^^ There's quite a difference between suggesting that someone who doesn't have money to burn refrain from going to expensive establishments, and suggesting that it's somehow ok to sexually assault someone.
    But that wasn't the two things being compared. I'm not talking about sexual assault. In both cases we have someone VOLUNTARILY doing more than they normally would if they were 100%.

    What *I* said is that there is little different between taking advantage of someone you know is a bit off their game when you know they are spending far more than they should or when you know they are giving up more of the "goods" than they should.

    Same-same and if you can't see that than there is a bit of a parity disconnect that would suggest we have totally different ways of viewing the world.

    I'll point out that YOU would prefer I have mine, because mine will keep me from taking advantage of you while yours will not prevent you from taking advantage of me.
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    What sound reasonable person would WANT to take advantage of someone 'off their game'. That is some effed up shit right there.

    Seriously. Arent you forgetting something? We're ordinary women doing a job most women wouldnt dare do. To even look at us is a frickin' priviledge. God, if i was the sort of no self esteemed loser who came into a club solely to take advantage of women who, lets face it, are just there to make money to pay their rent, eat, and live like ANY other person who works i'd kill myself. Thats some serious scum of the earth talk right there.

    I don't give a crap how much the dances are or how little cash you have. It does NOT give you the right to sexually harrass or assault someone. Bloody hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    But that wasn't the two things being compared. I'm not talking about sexual assault. In both cases we have someone VOLUNTARILY doing more than they normally would if they were 100%.

    What *I* said is that there is little different between taking advantage of someone you know is a bit off their game when you know they are spending far more than they should or when you know they are giving up more of the "goods" than they should.

    Same-same and if you can't see that than there is a bit of a parity disconnect that would suggest we have totally different ways of viewing the world.

    I'll point out that YOU would prefer I have mine, because mine will keep me from taking advantage of you while yours will not prevent you from taking advantage of me.
    Ah, I see. Well in that case...I still don't understand. I've had my fair share of drunk nights at work, as have most other girls I've worked with. Nevertheless, It's never caused me to start giving handjobs or let people stick their fingers in me. I don't see the other drunk girls doing that either (and yes,I'm sure, you can't hide that stuff in my club, it's all very out in the open). I can think of 1 or 2 girls who've worked at my club who would get drunk and let stuff like that happen, and they were rightly fired. Just as I would say a guy who makes such stupid mistakes like handing over the rent money should stay out of the clubs, I would also say a girl who can't help but have a few drinks and start making bad choices should also stay out of the club.
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    I wind up getting drunk most nights at my club (eh, yeah) and i have never let anyone go further than they're allowed to. It amuses me greatly when guys spend up to a $100 on drinks for me throughout the night thinking that when i'm drunk i'll be really lax and let them do what they want. The truth is the opposite. I wont even let a guy TOUCH me when i'm drunk (we allow controlled touching in the club around the waist, but it's up to the individual girl.) So the joke is on them.

    There is really no incentive for girls 'go further' with a guy. In any economy. At my club there was a chick who offered $10 handjobs. I still made more than her with my $20 and $50 clean dances. And she was fired. The only reason why she did it because she could barely speak english and she was desperate for the cash.

    So really, what kind of man would get off on taking advantage of a chick in that position? It's disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    What sound reasonable person would WANT to take advantage of someone 'off their game'. That is some effed up shit right there.
    Oh say a dancer getting a guy all hot a bothered and not telling him he is on his 8th song until it is time to come up with $200 instead of asking for $25 after each song.

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