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    I apologize in advance for this post, it's sure to be rambling and full of my own fears.

    I am literally terrified, not of dying, but after death. This only started a week or two ago, and I'm not sure why it's come on like this; I used to think about it and get freaked out, but it would occur to me once in a long while. Now, it's all I think about, and I'm having complete panic attacks. I can't sleep, I cry constantly, and I'm continuously in a state of terror.

    I grew up slightly religious and went to Catholic school, but my parents were non-practicing. While I certainly wasn't devout, deep down I think I still believed in God and an afterlife, and a soul.

    Then my best friend died 2 years ago, and as I walked up to his body in the coffin, it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew there was nothing after we die.

    And it scares the hell out of me. I desperately want so very badly to believe in SOMETHING after we die, but the cynical part of my brain makes it impossible.

    It's makes me so very jealous of others...like the religious fanaticals, who might be "crazy" in my book, but I know that due to their faith, they never lie awake like I do crying in terror. Part of me wishes my parents had raised me very religious, because then I'd be so sure of my faith, and wouldn't be so scared.

    Heck, I'm jealous of my dog, because she doesn't have the capacity to even ponder this concept, and instead is happy to have in her life food and a soft bed and lots of petting.

    So I guess what it comes down to is a few questions for everyone:

    1. Does anyone else think like this? I've tried to talk about this to a few people (including a therapist, because this is seriously ruining my life) and they all stare at me like I'm insane.

    2. If you do, how do you deal with it? People always say "there's nothing you can do, just live your life" but that's much easier said than done when you're terrified.

    3. Does anyone have stories of an afterlife? I know it's crazy to ask for "proof", but I'm desperate for any hope. I watch "Ghost Hunters" and other shows fanatically now, for some hope of any afterlife.

    So personal stories of your experiences, if a loved one has reached out you after they died, would be appreciated.

    Thanks for reading. I'm sorry this is such a crazy post, I literally haven't slept in days.

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    hm. well. i used to worry a bit about the fact that i would not exist after i died, but then someone reminded me that i didn't remember the feel of nonexistence before i was born, and that it would be similar to that. like empty, dreamless sleep, which is not bad at all.

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    ^lol, I think that scares me even more, but thanks for trying

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    I agree. I'm not really sure if I believe in an afterlife. But at the same time I'm thinking well who cares! You will be dead, so you won't know anyways. All the more reason to actually live your life! You only get one life!

    But then again I truly believe in ghosts. I have had dead relatives come to me in my dreams and I swear it was really them, not my imagination. But I think they are all actually here on earth still. Not in heaven, but just here hanging out and we just choose not to see them.

    My grandmother died suddenly and she actually had a dream 2 weeks before she died in which all her dead relatives were standing at the entrance way to a house all wearing white and asking her to come inside. Creepy huh? She wasn't sick at all and they died suddenly of a stroke 2 weeks later.

    It's normal to fear death, but try not to dwell on it sweetie. Enjoy life and think of those who never get to have a life anywhere close to ours (babies who die, those in poverty). Everyday is a blessing in our worlds. Life is good!

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    oh, no no no, i wasn't trying to scare you!

    *sighs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    I apologize in advance for this post, it's sure to be rambling and full of my own fears.

    I am literally terrified, not of dying, but after death. This only started a week or two ago, and I'm not sure why it's come on like this; I used to think about it and get freaked out, but it would occur to me once in a long while. Now, it's all I think about, and I'm having complete panic attacks. I can't sleep, I cry constantly, and I'm continuously in a state of terror.

    I grew up slightly religious and went to Catholic school, but my parents were non-practicing. While I certainly wasn't devout, deep down I think I still believed in God and an afterlife, and a soul.

    Then my best friend died 2 years ago, and as I walked up to his body in the coffin, it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew there was nothing after we die.

    And it scares the hell out of me. I desperately want so very badly to believe in SOMETHING after we die, but the cynical part of my brain makes it impossible.

    It's makes me so very jealous of others...like the religious fanaticals, who might be "crazy" in my book, but I know that due to their faith, they never lie awake like I do crying in terror. Part of me wishes my parents had raised me very religious, because then I'd be so sure of my faith, and wouldn't be so scared.

    Heck, I'm jealous of my dog, because she doesn't have the capacity to even ponder this concept, and instead is happy to have in her life food and a soft bed and lots of petting.

    So I guess what it comes down to is a few questions for everyone:

    1. Does anyone else think like this? I've tried to talk about this to a few people (including a therapist, because this is seriously ruining my life) and they all stare at me like I'm insane.

    2. If you do, how do you deal with it? People always say "there's nothing you can do, just live your life" but that's much easier said than done when you're terrified.

    3. Does anyone have stories of an afterlife? I know it's crazy to ask for "proof", but I'm desperate for any hope. I watch "Ghost Hunters" and other shows fanatically now, for some hope of any afterlife.

    So personal stories of your experiences, if a loved one has reached out you after they died, would be appreciated.

    Thanks for reading. I'm sorry this is such a crazy post, I literally haven't slept in days.

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    Neither I (nor indeed anyone in my immediate family) believe in life after death. I personally probably have 70 - 80 years to have fun, then life will end. I am comfortable with that.

    My parents have opted for woodland burials. They will be buried out on the countryside, and an oak tree planted on top of their grave. Their bodies will decay, and in doing so, will provide nutrients for the tree. So the atoms that were once my parents will become part of a tree. Life after death in a way - as an oak will outlast generation after generation of us humans.

    The Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius put it rather well in his "Meditations":

    "I travel the roads of nature until the hour I shall lie down and be at rest; yielding my last breath back into the air from which I have drawn it daily, and sinking down upon the earth from which my father drew the seed, my mother the blood and my nurse the milk of my being - the earth which for so many years has furnished my daily meat and drink, and, although so grievously abused, still suffers me to tread its surface".

    We come and we go. I had no choice in the moment of my appearance - and I will have little choice in the moment of my disappearance. All we can do is have the most fulfilling life we can, and by the time we die try and ensure that the good we have done far outweighs any pain we have caused.

    I do not fear death - although I would like to live as long as life is fulfilling. But sometime in the future I will be old and worn out - and I will not wake from sleep. I will not know anything about it, for I shall simply close my eyes, never to know I shall not re-awake.

    What will live after me?

    I shall still exist in the memories of the people who knew me. And as I have touched several lives, and done (I hope) some good, I shall be remembered kindly after I am gone.

    We sleep when we are tired. When I am very tired, I shall sleep forever.

    As the poet Sarah Williams put it:

    "Though my soul may set in darkness, it will rise in perfect light;
    I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    I apologize in advance for this post, it's sure to be rambling and full of my own fears.

    I am literally terrified, not of dying, but after death. This only started a week or two ago, and I'm not sure why it's come on like this; I used to think about it and get freaked out, but it would occur to me once in a long while. Now, it's all I think about, and I'm having complete panic attacks. I can't sleep, I cry constantly, and I'm continuously in a state of terror.

    I grew up slightly religious and went to Catholic school, but my parents were non-practicing. While I certainly wasn't devout, deep down I think I still believed in God and an afterlife, and a soul.

    Then my best friend died 2 years ago, and as I walked up to his body in the coffin, it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew there was nothing after we die.

    And it scares the hell out of me. I desperately want so very badly to believe in SOMETHING after we die, but the cynical part of my brain makes it impossible.

    It's makes me so very jealous of others...like the religious fanaticals, who might be "crazy" in my book, but I know that due to their faith, they never lie awake like I do crying in terror. Part of me wishes my parents had raised me very religious, because then I'd be so sure of my faith, and wouldn't be so scared.

    Heck, I'm jealous of my dog, because she doesn't have the capacity to even ponder this concept, and instead is happy to have in her life food and a soft bed and lots of petting.

    So I guess what it comes down to is a few questions for everyone:

    1. Does anyone else think like this? I've tried to talk about this to a few people (including a therapist, because this is seriously ruining my life) and they all stare at me like I'm insane.

    2. If you do, how do you deal with it? People always say "there's nothing you can do, just live your life" but that's much easier said than done when you're terrified.

    3. Does anyone have stories of an afterlife? I know it's crazy to ask for "proof", but I'm desperate for any hope. I watch "Ghost Hunters" and other shows fanatically now, for some hope of any afterlife.

    So personal stories of your experiences, if a loved one has reached out you after they died, would be appreciated.

    Thanks for reading. I'm sorry this is such a crazy post, I literally haven't slept in days.
    Im sorry you feel this way. I don't know if my story will help you see it differently or not but I will share bc I think it would be really sad for you to continue to go through life feeling as though there is nothing waiting for you. This isn't all there is. I've had many many encounters that let me know there's more than this life. On my 16th birthday my grandmother passed away. We were so close that I kind of felt it was like her last little way to connect with me. Anyway, several months later, and right before I was about to find myself in some serious trouble she "stopped in" one night. It was very late and I was coming up to bed and walked into my room and she was sitting on my bed. She was there to warn me and to try to help me move away from the direction I was headed. Since she had been very sick before she died what she looked like at the end of her life was the memory I had of her until this night. She looked radiant. Not a ghostly glowing thing but I mean so completely happy and healthy. Wherever she was, she was truly at peace. That's the image I have of her now.

    There is no reason to be terrified of death or dying. You're not disappearing into oblivion. You do no cease to exist. You simply move from one plane of existence to another. There's lots of reading you can do on this subject. If you're interested Im happy to provide you with the titles of some good ones. Don't lose sleep over this. If you spend too much time worrying about dying you won't spend any time living. And that's what's truly important. Live. Death is inevitable and unavoidable. Worry about life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    I apologize in advance for this post, it's sure to be rambling and full of my own fears.

    I am literally terrified, not of dying, but after death. This only started a week or two ago, and I'm not sure why it's come on like this; I used to think about it and get freaked out, but it would occur to me once in a long while. Now, it's all I think about, and I'm having complete panic attacks. I can't sleep, I cry constantly, and I'm continuously in a state of terror.

    I grew up slightly religious and went to Catholic school, but my parents were non-practicing. While I certainly wasn't devout, deep down I think I still believed in God and an afterlife, and a soul.

    Then my best friend died 2 years ago, and as I walked up to his body in the coffin, it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew there was nothing after we die.

    And it scares the hell out of me. I desperately want so very badly to believe in SOMETHING after we die, but the cynical part of my brain makes it impossible.

    It's makes me so very jealous of others...like the religious fanaticals, who might be "crazy" in my book, but I know that due to their faith, they never lie awake like I do crying in terror. Part of me wishes my parents had raised me very religious, because then I'd be so sure of my faith, and wouldn't be so scared.

    Heck, I'm jealous of my dog, because she doesn't have the capacity to even ponder this concept, and instead is happy to have in her life food and a soft bed and lots of petting.

    So I guess what it comes down to is a few questions for everyone:

    1. Does anyone else think like this? I've tried to talk about this to a few people (including a therapist, because this is seriously ruining my life) and they all stare at me like I'm insane.

    2. If you do, how do you deal with it? People always say "there's nothing you can do, just live your life" but that's much easier said than done when you're terrified.

    3. Does anyone have stories of an afterlife? I know it's crazy to ask for "proof", but I'm desperate for any hope. I watch "Ghost Hunters" and other shows fanatically now, for some hope of any afterlife.

    So personal stories of your experiences, if a loved one has reached out you after they died, would be appreciated.

    Thanks for reading. I'm sorry this is such a crazy post, I literally haven't slept in days.
    Your fear/terror, and all of your physical symptoms are a direct result of your belief in these scary thoughts. Without the thoughts about dying, and that there is no afterlife, you would be fine...happy even, like your dog.

    We all have thoughts bombarding us...thousands of them a day. It's what our minds do - they think thoughts. We make the mistake of thinking that the voice in our heads is actually our true selves talking to us and guiding us with wisdom. Don't be fooled. If your scary thoughts are making you feel bad, it follows that ignoring them will return you to a state of peace. Having pleasant, positive thoughts makes us all feel good and sleep well.

    When you find yourself thinking scary things and feeling the anxiety and fear that is your body's response to those thoughts, you need to first notice that it is happening...like noticing a child chattering away...then do something neutral to distract you. Reading, or meditating while noticing your breathing can help.

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    It's normal to fear death, but try not to dwell on it sweetie. Enjoy life and think of those who never get to have a life anywhere close to ours (babies who die, those in poverty). Everyday is a blessing in our worlds. Life is good!
    I would add, it is normal for people everywhere to experience fearful and painful thoughts. It is the prime cause of suffering in the world. Learning to manage this is the single most important skill you can learn in your life in my opinion. I recommend reading on this subject, discussing it with others, and researching any source for insight. I promise it will help.

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    Just because a rainbow disapears, it doesn't mean they cease to exist.
    I suggest you read sylvia browns book prophesy, I found it amaising that, in part, the way I saw things were exactly put to words in her description of life after death.
    For some people, seeing is believing, perhaps if you were to try to see whats going on outside of your body, you might find more comfort. However, if your prone to freak outs, this is far more freaky deep than ceasing to exist...Try on the thought of never ceasing to exist. Whew, thats a biggie.

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    My daughter sees spirits on a regular basis. They annoy the crap out of her actually. I also know her abilities are not in her mind. She saw on of her uncles on night. We found out he died that evening a few days later. She also had one bugging her for several weeks. We got her to chat to him and found out enough information that with a ton of research we eventually were able to track down his grave. He was no-body special and not anyone that could have been looked up quickly.
    If that isn't enough for you and you want some scientific proof- try physics and the fact that energy doesn't cease to exist, it just changes form. Also look at quantum physics and the chaos theory (I think it's the chaos theory, I'm not smart enough to get my head around quantum physics) where on the sub-atomic level things seem to disappear, and appear from no-where.
    Plus the fact that we have a miserly five senses to detect what is going on in the world around us, who knows what else is there but we don't have the equipment to be aware of it- look at migrating birds, bats with their sonars, sea creatures in the crushing depths of the ocean, insects that know exactly which plants have pollen ready to go.......
    I believe there is something beyond our lif as we know it, exactly what it is we won't discover until death.

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    Have you thought about death as a normal and natural process that happens to everything in the universe? The feeling of isolation at the thought of no afterlife is what got me down, but now I just look at it as a mystery to be explored, when I'm ready.

    No one can tell you what it is like to die and stay dead. There are folks with near death experiences and those that actually died and came back to life, but no one really knows what it is like and what happens next.

    Frankly, I'd be glad for oblivion in death. I don't think about or wish for an afterlife, but if there happens to be one, I guess I'll deal with that when I get there. It will be as natural and traumatic as birth, and that is how it should be.

    I'm nearly 40, and have had glimpses of that deep fatigue that I imagine the very old feel. Just glimpses, mind you, but enough to know that when it is time to pass on you won't feel terror but relief that you can cast off this world, maybe even for nothing but oblivion or for the afterlife--whatever that means.


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    I'm not a believer in anything after, just as I have no memory of anything before, and just as if poke my computer with a wire and short it the patterns of information stop. I do believe in organized patterns that are intelligent (us, our brains) but once the organization is gone, like our bodies, I think the raw material is left over but not the awareness we think of as us. The raw energy remains but it was the patterns which make it interesting. The patterns collapse and are replaced by other patterns that are interesting in their own right. Much like after snow flakes melt, their unique and interesting shape is gone, but the water molecule remains, the energy redistributed in other forms.

    I view us much like I view grapes on a vine. The vine goes on, other grapes come into being, and they too ripen and eventually wither away. But fundamentally life goes on. It is hard to explain my next PoV but essentially in a way, by being born, being us, we have a unique awareness that also blinds us to the Universe' experience as a whole. Put another way, in a way, before I was born, everyone else alive (from single cell creatures to other humans) are part of the universe' awareness of itself, and while I wasn't aware of it as I, the Universe was still aware in a strange sense (and will be after I'm gone).

    And I don't mean I think when we die that we are aware of everyone else retaining our unique sense of self, but I do mean the Universe remains aware through the experiences and eyes of all others now and those that come after. My unique experience as me will have left a mark on the Universe but I view it as positive that I pass on for someone/something else to view it all a new from a new perspective. I suppose that can seem depressing to some but I don't think I'm all that special that I matter so much. However it does make me happy that humans will go on, intelligence will go on, new people will enjoy the amazing wonder of being born, youth, falling in love, discovery. And some of them may leave behind amazing inventions, things that the Universe has never seen before.

    And I think it is healthy to ponder our mortality, as long as it doesn't become crippling so. In the end it still comes down to survival and making choices moment to moment.
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    Mr. Clemens was once asked whether he feared death. He said that he did not, in view of the fact that he had been dead for billions and billions of years before he was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.

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