Hello,
I was wondering from the customers if being a good dancer on stage is a make or break factor of you wanting to buy a LD?
Hello,
I was wondering from the customers if being a good dancer on stage is a make or break factor of you wanting to buy a LD?


Assuming I'm not waiting for my ATF, I think the dancer's stage performance is a major factor in my choice. Pole tricks don't do much for me, but smiling and being responsive does. I like a little banter back and forth with the dancer. What is most fun for me is if we both feel we've got a connection without saying anything. If this is happening, I will give her a significant tip. She responds with a sexy, sassy move. Then I tip more, then she does something sexy again. Without saying a word, she has shown me she is serious about entertaining me, and I have shown I'm serious about paying for it. There is no promise of extras; no talk of OTC. She has stayed within her boundaries while showing me she really enjoys dancing for me. I've shown her she has my interest more than any other dancer working that night, and I will make it worth her while.
Then it's off to lap dance land for a memorable time. If that works, there is a good chance I will be back.![]()
I'm a simple man and don't get caught up in analyzing pole skills and so forth. If I see a gal on stage who is attractive and appears friendly and welcoming, I am inclined to go up to the stage and tip her. If my stage side visit confirms my more distant judgment, an LD is likely. Pole work on it's own doesn't motivate me one way or the other. IMO a dancer can be very hot and a good investment in the CR without necessarily having pole skills.
FBR
Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.




...I'm aware of the distaste many dancers have for stage (when you could be on the floor or when nobody is in the club yet). If you look like you have a bad attitude on stage then i might think you probably have a baditude lapping.
"Peter, did you take Stewie to a strip-club? He smells like sweat and fear." - Lois and Stewie (Family Guy) ... "Through early morning fog I see, Visions of the things to be, The pains that are withheld for me, I realize and I can see..."





It's not a make or break factor for me. If you are hot (to me) I'd probably get a dance anyways. But, if you've got a good polished stage show, you'd get guys like me, and also the pickier guys that decide to get a dance based on your show. Makes sense to work on a good presentation to appeal to as many dudes as possible.
Whatever you do on stage, even if it's very simple, do it well.
I want to thank everyone that posted. I am new to dancing and don't do the fancy pole or floor moves. I do smile and try to have as much fun as possible while on stage. I did learn that I lack the connection with the audience and tippers.
All the posts are very helpful.
Geez, I need to get more advice from the customers, lol.





The single most important thing you can do on stage to attract my attention is smile. If you look like you are having a good time up there and you fit my basic preferences in dancers I will go up to the stage and tip you. If we exchange a few pleasantries and you seem interesting I will invite you to sit. At that point I have already decided that I am probably going to buy a dance.
Pole tricks or coordinated movements of any sort on stage don't really do much to pique my interest in buying a dance.
Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.
My fellow dancers give great advice. My fellow customers on SW give great advice that I haven't been taking advantage of. It is a nice benefit to get feedback from paying customers.
Thanks!!
Stage dancing does not influence my PD purchases.
If you need any other customer advice you may want to post some pics on the blue side. School girl outfits are a plus.



A solid, polished stage presence with sensual undertones is what will generally help you get LD's. Pole tricks and such *might* help you get a few more dollars in stage tips. There's usually one or two girls in a club known for exceptional pole work who will make 2x-3x times average on stage, with mixed results in the LD department. Mostly, though, the pole work is to keep YOU entertainedThe girls who do pole tricks are usually the ones who look forward to going on stage.
-SG
Love & Peace (& Doughnuts)





I don't think you can look at customers as having a single set of motivations. Different customers come into SC's with different intentions, and hence look for slightly different things in a stage show.
Thus, a customer who wants to feel he can make a 'connection' with a dancer will look for lots of eye contact, etc - something to show that the dancer has registered him as an individual , rather than a face in the crowd.
Similarly a customer who is after mileage will probably look for raunchy stage shows - on the basis that "raunch on stage = raunch in LD".
Which brings us neatly into body language. About 70% of what we communicate about ourselves comes from body language - and we instinctively react to other people's body language. A lot of guys who come into SC's will look for the answers to two questions in a dancers body language (although in many cases this will happen at the subconscious level).
1) Does she like me?
2) Is she attracted to me?
We communicate both by smiles and eye contact, the difference between the two being the length of eye contact. 'Liking' tends to be at regular intervals, but only a few seconds at a time. 'Attracted' tends to be regular but 6 - 8 seconds at a time - the so called 'smoldering glance'.
So your smiles and eye contact are answering the unspoken questions many customers have. In my experience the better earning dancers tend to radiate (1) and are good at mimicking (2).
And digressing slightly, the better earning dancers tend to have an actual (or instinctive) command of how to use body language to maximize their earnings. A simple example of this is distance when talking to a customer. We tend to have a distance we are comfortable talking to people from. Broadly this equates to:
1) Close friends: 6" or less
2) Casual friends: 6" - 18"
3) Strangers: >18"
So dancers can create a feeling of intimacy by asking the LD question while standing within 6" of a customer.
(Body language is one of my hobby horses - been interested in it for 30 years).
Phil.
Wow. This is an eye-opening thread. Thanks a million to the OP.




...the stage show would have more interest if i was 21 and just starting to go to strip clubs. I still appreciate a routine but it has less impact as the years go by. I'll watch and note little things about the way she dances. Such as "backass dancing" where she is so engrossed in herself she dances her set backwards/sideways so she can watch herself in the mirrors. Or i'll try to spot a dancers "signature dance move". Something she always does that nobody else does. For example, one girl will high step it around the pole, one girl will pucker her lips and clap, etc... Admit it girls everyone has one!!! It's a hoot to ask dancers what they think others dancers "signature move" is. However, one of the most amazing stage moves i've seen was when a dancer in heels & g-string did a running no hands front flip and landed it perfectly. She got a big tip.
"Peter, did you take Stewie to a strip-club? He smells like sweat and fear." - Lois and Stewie (Family Guy) ... "Through early morning fog I see, Visions of the things to be, The pains that are withheld for me, I realize and I can see..."





I can't thank everybody enough for all their posts! I have felt like my stage performance has been the biggest block to being a successful stripper/entertainer. I work at an optional nude byob club. I recently started this thread in the dancer section about stage etiquette and tippers.
I would love to hear any feedback that the wise customers on this thread would like to share about this topic because it also relates to this thread.
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=136030
The stage show seems to be a major contribution to the atmosphere of the club. It entertains the bulk of the customers. I make my own observations but I really want to see the big picture as well as the details. I realize that this is common sense to the experienced but not as obvious for me as a newbie. I really have the passion to be the best entertainer I can be and provide the best possible quality service to my paying customers. Knowledge is power and I appreciate all the shared wisdom!
Last edited by taylormadison; 10-18-2009 at 10:40 AM. Reason: forgot optional




For me, stage dancing isn't necessarily a selling point, but it can certainly "seal the deal" if a dancer I've been eye balling out on the floor proceeds to do a hot, sensuous stage dance (especially if there is sexy eye contact with me when I tip her on stage). She'll bank off me big time!![]()

I always need to see a dancer on stage before deciding to get a lap dance with her. This is for a couple reasons, such as inspecting the body, and more importantly seeing what the dancer does for a dollar, a very good indicator of what type of lap dancer she is.





Oh jeez.










To the OP....
Back in the days when guys could post in the dancer sections I put up a post with some advice for new dancers:
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=87522
Might be worth exhuming it.....
Phil.
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