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    A could be a variety of reasons:
    1. Not very many dancers working in the club, so long stage sets allow the girls not on stage to do lap dances.
    2. Most of the girls may have paid to not take the stage, leaving only 5-6 dancers available to do stage performances.
    3. The dancers are only allowed a single stage performance a night and spend the rest of their shift doing lap dances.

    Those are the only reasons I've encountered for long stage performances. Also, Feature Dancers do long stage sets, but that is a single dancer working that evening, whereas the rest of the dancers would do the usual length performance.

    You may try some different clubs in your area to see if the stage rotation isn't shorter at other businesses.


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    omg dude, go to some different clubs. i've worked at clubs when i'm on stage with 2 other girls for 10mins. all clubs aren't the same. and if you hate it so much, try cam girls or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    omg dude, go to some different clubs. i've worked at clubs when i'm on stage with 2 other girls for 10mins. all clubs aren't the same. and if you hate it so much, try cam girls or something.
    I've been to almost all of them at some time. The ests are this long at most of them. Or there are big breaks between sets - same result.

    I don't hate the club just over this, but it is a big minus. I'm there to see girls and shows, and I don't want to just see five drag on. I don't want to hang out there for a long time either. I do have a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    A could be a variety of reasons:
    1. Not very many dancers working in the club, so long stage sets allow the girls not on stage to do lap dances.
    2. Most of the girls may have paid to not take the stage, leaving only 5-6 dancers available to do stage performances.
    3. The dancers are only allowed a single stage performance a night and spend the rest of their shift doing lap dances.

    Those are the only reasons I've encountered for long stage performances. Also, Feature Dancers do long stage sets, but that is a single dancer working that evening, whereas the rest of the dancers would do the usual length performance.

    You may try some different clubs in your area to see if the stage rotation isn't shorter at other businesses.
    1. Happens when there are 20 or 30 dancers on.
    2. Possibly. But I've sat for three hours (never again) through just the girls who do go on, and maybe not even all of them. They could rotate faster than that.
    3. Possibly, but I've seen girls go on more than once at least at some clubs.

    It's the same at most clubs. At one club there are ten dancers on stage at one time. But I don't always go there.
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    Default Re: Why are stage sets so long?

    well we need to make money and that doesn't usually come from stage sets.
    and there's no way you've been to almost all of them, what about the clubs i just mentioned that i worked at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    well we need to make money and that doesn't usually come from stage sets.
    and there's no way you've been to almost all of them, what about the clubs i just mentioned that i worked at?
    If you don't usually make money from stage sets, why do long ones? Or do you mean that's a reason why many girls don't go on - hence the breaks and the long sets for those who do? Short ones wouldn't take too much of the dancers' time and would also make them each more noticed (and appealling if their dances are good).

    I meant all the clubs in my town. I wouldn't fly to New York just because the stage shows are too long here. There are about ten clubs here and I've been to all of them. Most of them have this stage show arrangement.
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    Hopper, are you in Canada? That sounds like the way they do it in Western Canada. That's not the norm for the US and Eastern Canada. Aus and Europe further differs as well.

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    ^I'm not in Canada or the US.
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    Default Re: Why are stage sets so long?

    Looks like you're just gonna have to deal with it dude. Bummer.

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    Is it really that big of a bummer?

    All the stage sets around here are 9-12 minutes long. I like it. Other people seem to as well, I've never heard anyone else complain about it before. Is it really necessary to see every girl's stage set before deciding who you would like to get a dance from anyway?
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    ^Not of global proportions, but worth discussing; though that won't change it. Obviously it suits the clubs in some way. I should ask about it when I'm next at a club. I thought perhaps it was the same in clubs dancers here work at, since most clubs near me have long sets.

    I don't need to see every girl dance before choosing one. But I do like to see them all dance, or at least see all the ones I like dance. I like watching them dance and I like to see as many as I can. And - I don't get why it suits the dancers to have long sets.

    Sometimes I have not liked the girl until I see her on stage. It's odd, but clothes can complement or detract even from great-looking girls. My first LD was like that. I saw the girl pass by me on the floor a number of times and she looked average. When she got on stage and stripped, she looked gorgeous. She was a dance student, so her moves (and figure) were very good. It was like her dress (colour, cut) didn't suit her or hid her too well or something. Or maybe I just didn't get a good look at her because of the lighting or the crowd etc.

    That's one example - it has often been the case with other strippers since. Clothes do make a big difference in one's appearance. When I have seen girls naked in other situations it is the same - they can look much nicer naked than clothed, depending on the clothes. Girls here would know about this - women generally spend lots of time buying clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    Looks like you're just gonna have to deal with it dude. Bummer.
    Fortunately, there IS a life outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    ^Not of global proportions, but worth discussing; though that won't change it. Obviously it suits the clubs in some way. I should ask about it when I'm next at a club. I thought perhaps it was the same in clubs dancers here work at, since most clubs near me have long sets.

    I don't need to see every girl dance before choosing one. But I do like to see them all dance, or at least see all the ones I like dance. I like watching them dance and I like to see as many as I can. And - I don't get why it suits the dancers to have long sets.

    Sometimes I have not liked the girl until I see her on stage. It's odd, but clothes can complement or detract even from great-looking girls. My first LD was like that. I saw the girl pass by me on the floor a number of times and she looked average. When she got on stage and stripped, she looked gorgeous. She was a dance student, so her moves (and figure) were very good. It was like her dress (colour, cut) didn't suit her or hid her too well or something. Or maybe I just didn't get a good look at her because of the lighting or the crowd etc.

    That's one example - it has often been the case with other strippers since. Clothes do make a big difference in one's appearance. When I have seen girls naked in other situations it is the same - they can look much nicer naked than clothed, depending on the clothes. Girls here would know about this - women generally spend lots of time buying clothes.
    I can understand that. I see your point a little better now, it is nice to be able to see the dancers a little better during the stage set before you buy a dance. I guess I was just confused because guys at my club usually complain when a girl picks short songs for her set. I guess they feel they're not getting enough of a show for their stage tips.
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    Understandable. My way, they wouldn't have so long to wait for the dancers next stage show. Depends how long they are there. Maybe they want more interaction on stage. They can go for an LD if they want to see more - isn't that the main purpose of stage shows? Vyanka complained in her recent thread that guys don't spend enough. Speaking for myself theres nothing to see on stage in ten minutes that I can't see in five - if they undress a bit faster.

    Anyway, it's a choice between seeing fewer girls for longer or more girls for less time.
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    I've always danced 3 song sets at all my clubs... Generally it's 1st song- dance, 2nd song-topless, 3rd song- remove bottoms (if its a nude club).. I think 3 songs is perfect.. Your advertising and it's enough time for guys to see you and make their way over to tip.
    The songs have to be a certain amount of time for the lapdances.. So they can't shorten the time on them.

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    Like hockey says, I'm stuck with it. I just wanted to know why they are like that and I thought dancers would know the reason for it. It's hard to imagine the girls liking being up there for so long. Ten or fifteen minutes is a long time to keep it going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    Like hockey says, I'm stuck with it. I just wanted to know why they are like that and I thought dancers would know the reason for it. It's hard to imagine the girls liking being up there for so long. Ten or fifteen minutes is a long time to keep it going.
    This could also be a situation of "We've always done it this way." People are resistant to change. I worked at a club that went from being stage only to having lap dances and a VIP room. When the club was stage only, all the dancers had a timed rotation because there was only one stage, and that was the only way the girls could make money. Each girl needed to be on stage for 15 minutes, reguardless of how many songs played. Each girl also had exactly 9 stage sets during her shift. That way no one could complain that someone else was favored with more time to make money over anyone else.

    When lap dances and the VIP area were added, the stage rotation time stayed the same, but didn't make any sense any longer. It stuck for several years because "That's how we've always done it." This club has since lightened up on the timed sets, but still has a very strict rotation on stage for the girls even though it doesn't really make sense anymore.


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    look, most dancers would rather go on stage once or twice a night for 10 minutes then 5 or 6 times a night for 5 minutes. that's annoying and cuts into our LD time. and like i said, we're not going to rip our clothes of and get naked for you immediately. its just not going to happen.

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    ^Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    Like hockey says, I'm stuck with it. I just wanted to know why they are like that and I thought dancers would know the reason for it. It's hard to imagine the girls liking being up there for so long. Ten or fifteen minutes is a long time to keep it going.
    I've worked at 3 song clubs and 30 min on 30 min off go-go in NJ (2-3 girls on each stage at all times). 3 song sets seem pretty reasonable to me.

    No likey 30 min sets though, I DO get tired. Especially early in the night when other girls would be late, so my manager would pay me to do 3 back to back or 1:30 on stage. Now if those guys bitched they were sick of me, I'd have totally understood. It seems kind of ridiculous to bitch about a 12 min set to me though.
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    ^I'm not complaining about the length of sets as such, but how many dancers I get to see in a reasonable time. I'm there to see some girls, perhaps have one or two LDs, and then leave. SCs are not places to socialise. They are for dancers to make money. I'm a waste of space if I sit around most of the night scoping for girls I like and there's not much else for me to do there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    look, most dancers would rather go on stage once or twice a night for 10 minutes then 5 or 6 times a night for 5 minutes. that's annoying and cuts into our LD time. and like i said, we're not going to rip our clothes of and get naked for you immediately. its just not going to happen.
    Okay, that's a reason it doesn't suit dancers. Though I would think that dancers could somehow work in five minute sets about every 90 minutes or 2 hours with LDs. The stage schedule doesn't have to be rigid. Do most dancers get enough LDs, or long enough LDs, that they don't need to go on stage that often?

    I don't expect dancers to strip immediately all at the same time, I just don't want it to take three hours. Actually, in one club I've been to there are ten girls on at one time - so it practically is happenning at that club. But I don't just go to that one. I don't like everything else about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    This could also be a situation of "We've always done it this way." People are resistant to change. I worked at a club that went from being stage only to having lap dances and a VIP room. When the club was stage only, all the dancers had a timed rotation because there was only one stage, and that was the only way the girls could make money. Each girl needed to be on stage for 15 minutes, reguardless of how many songs played. Each girl also had exactly 9 stage sets during her shift. That way no one could complain that someone else was favored with more time to make money over anyone else.

    When lap dances and the VIP area were added, the stage rotation time stayed the same, but didn't make any sense any longer. It stuck for several years because "That's how we've always done it." This club has since lightened up on the timed sets, but still has a very strict rotation on stage for the girls even though it doesn't really make sense anymore.
    Maybe so. All clubs were once stage-only. But that was a long time ago. However, I would expect that if the girls going on stage more times per night increased earnings and profits that the profit motive would over-ride tradition.
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    Another reason I like to check out dancers on stage is that I have made mistakes in the past. The clothes (even stripper clothes) hide unattractive features as well as attractive ones..
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