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    Default Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be?

    I've seen a couple of documentaries about human trafficking, and they both mentioned how the women often ended up in strip clubs. Not to say that all women working in the club are being forced to do so, but it seems that it is a common way for women to be forced to make money for a pimp or trafficker. Many of the women in the documentaries spoke about how they felt helpless and didn't have anywhere to turn. It seemed like they weren't aware of the social services available to them specifically for their situation.

    Is there any information in the dressing room at the club about sexual/domestic abuse hotlines such as fliers, posters, etc? All businesses have to display posters about employee rights for things like minimum wage. I was thinking it would be very beneficial for sexually oriented businesses to have similar posters for sexual abuse services.

    In the documentaries, the traffickers controlled all aspects of the women's lives. By having this information in the dressing room, it would at least let the women know there are people who would help them.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    ummmmmm. why would clubs allowing illegal immigrants to work put up flyers for social services??? seriously dude. do you think that these women are working in any clubs the we work in? i actually am offended that you think its such a common occurrence and that many strippers aren't in control of themselves. i would be really offended if my club posted a sexual abuse hotline in my dressing room! to me it would be saying "you girls must have been abused at some point to be doing this job, and if you haven't yet, just wait!". the only thing we have up in my dressing room is information on the best plastic surgeons, extensions, and apartments.
    i understand its a serious issue and i'm not condoning it or saying it doesn't happen, i just don't think strip clubs are in any way responsible for or need to be associated with human trafficking.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    I hope I didn't insinuate that this is a common thing at the club. I'm sure it's an extreme rarity. However, there have been recent posts here about women who knew of dancers who had pimps. And not all the women in the shows were immigrants. Some were runaways picked up off the street.

    For many of these women, their lives consisted of living with the pimp, working the street or the club, and then back to the pimp's house. They had no other access to the outside world. I was thinking the dressing room may the the only place the pimp wouldn't be able to control access. But I see your point about not wanting to associate the club with that kind of activity.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    You are still missing the point. Why would a club thats exploiting those girls want them to find help?

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    God, calm the fuck down. It's an honest question that deserves an honest answer. And yes, it's a very fucking good idea. Not all cubs are sleazy, at least mine isn't, and yes it does have fliers. In the dressing room and in the public bathrooms.

    The reason it's a good idea is because many girls DO have history of sexual abuse/molestation/whatever, whether they are being pimped out or not, or are illegal immigrants or not, it's just a very beneficial thing to have. I know a good handful of girls ON THESE FORUMS have spoken up about their experiences.

    My club has fliers and it sure as hell isn't hurting for more girls (although more are always welcome) so it's not like they're chasing girls away by posting them. More the opposite- the place gets a great reputation for how it treats the girls and more girls come as a result.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    I've never seen anything like that posted in the dressing rooms of clubs I've worked at. Usually there are signs listing fines and house fees, and the minimum wage rules are posted in the kitchen or manager's office.

    One club I worked at had an ad from Planned Parenthood about getting tested for STDs and to use condoms, but that is as close as it gets.

    There are no laws requiring American strip clubs to post "stripper rights" laws anywhere in the building.


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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    Quote Originally Posted by NickT View Post
    I hope I didn't insinuate that this is a common thing at the club. I'm sure it's an extreme rarity. However, there have been recent posts here about women who knew of dancers who had pimps. And not all the women in the shows were immigrants. Some were runaways picked up off the street.

    For many of these women, their lives consisted of living with the pimp, working the street or the club, and then back to the pimp's house. They had no other access to the outside world. I was thinking the dressing room may the the only place the pimp wouldn't be able to control access. But I see your point about not wanting to associate the club with that kind of activity.
    sorry if i was a little rash in my post before. i guess i get easily offended when it comes to generalizations of SC's or strippers (not that you were doing that, but i'm just sensitive to it). i definitely don't know everything and can sometimes live in my own bubble, so perhaps i'm ignorant to girls in other clubs really needing help. i've read the posts about girls with pimps and was shocked too. things are sooo different from state to state and club to club, it constantly blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    I've never seen anything like that posted in the dressing rooms of clubs I've worked at. Usually there are signs listing fines and house fees, and the minimum wage rules are posted in the kitchen or manager's office.

    One club I worked at had an ad from Planned Parenthood about getting tested for STDs and to use condoms, but that is as close as it gets.

    There are no laws requiring American strip clubs to post "stripper rights" laws anywhere in the building.
    I'm not sure if the ones posted in my club are "official" or just something one of the girls printed out and put up, but there's definitely a couple hanging around. I hardly see it as a bad thing to let the girls know where they can turn to get some help. Honestly, I think any place that has higher populations of women should have them.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    You're just perpetuating the stereotype. If hotline numbers are required in a workplace change room it needs to be in all work place changerooms. Sexual abuse is not limited to adult workers or even females for that matter.
    I was harassed in an all-male work environment that was NOT a strip club. I find the strip club quite supportive when I've had drama's- with bouncers, management and plenty of dancers looking out for me.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    I've never seen it, but I guess it wouldn't hurt for the info to be there. I really don't think human trafficking happens at any of the clubs I work at. I know there are a few illegals working, but they all are normal chicks living it up in their penthouses saving cash to take back home LOL. Although I do know quite a few strippers with lazy ass husbands and boyfriends who don't work and who sponge off their girls. When I read the thread title I actually thought you were going to imply for those instances when a customer may get out of hand...grabby or verbally abusive. I think sometimes it may be necessary to debrief after an incident in the club.

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    ^ good point jessie. i would think that new dancers would be frightened by such flyers and would think "oh is sexual assault a problem here??"

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    I don't think that having fliers about sexual abuse would perpetuate any kind of stereotype. Information about hotlines for abuse, be it sexual, physical, or emotional, should really be listed in every workplace, regardless of what kind of business it is. Several businesses I've worked for in the past had company-sponsored hotlines for everything from domestic abuse to substance abuse, and these were just normal companies like Time Warner Cable and Lowe's. Most females I know have been sexually abused at some point or other, and I'm not talking about strippers. I've been raped and abused by an ex. Most of the girls at my club have also experienced it. To my knowledge, only a few of the dancers are in that kind of situation currently, but I know I still have some issues I'd like to deal with, and therapy is fucking expensive.

    Sexual abuse is not something to do with strip clubs...it's something to do with life. It happens, to a lot of men and women.

    I'm kind of surprised so many people were offended by this question, because I don't think that was the spirit in which it was intended. This is a perfectly reasonable question coming from a good place, not a "all strippers are strippers because something fucked up happened to them to make them do this" place.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    A lot of other places could definitely use fliers like this, such as all the restaurants and retail places I worked in before I started dancing.. David Letterman's building, ESPN, etc.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    You are still missing the point. Why would a club thats exploiting those girls want them to find help?
    Governments could require adult businesses to post certain notices. Places of business are already required by law to put up posters specifying employee rights, minimum wage, etc. So it wouldn't have to be up to the club owner to decide if the poster should be displayed. They could be forced to display the poster or be subject to fines or other legal action.

    Maybe sexual abuse was not the right term. The women involved with trafficking were forced to either dance or work the street. They were not forced to work in an office or anything like that. So I just trying to think of ways to help these women who are essentially slaves.

    It is strange that adult businesses are not required to post the relevant laws they are subject to. How do the dancers find out how much contact is legally allowed? Aside from the human trafficking problem, I would think it would be very beneficial to have a poster which said something like:
    This is an adult establishment in which these things are allowed: A, B, C . These things are not allowed X, Y, Z. If you see violations or feel like you are being forced to violate these laws, contact 1-800-...
    The poster could be written generic enough so that they know help is a phone call away without having it associated with sexual abuse or anything like that.

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    Default Re: Is there sexual abuse hotline info in the dressing room? If not, should there be

    I see it more as posting First Aid or 911 signs in workplaces. It's just something that people should be aware of, no matter where they work.

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