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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/27/...ef=mpstoryview

    This is really sad.

    The headline for this on the CNN home page was "police: gang rape lasted over 2 hours".

    It occured at a school dance on school property.

    10 people looked on, some came and joined in.

    The fact that the only reason it was reported to the police was because someone overheard someone "reminiscing" about the situation makes me sick to my stomach.
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    Seriously... not one person could be bothered to call the police?
    Even if it's someone you really didn't like... shouldn't you at least have the decency to do what you can to save them from something like that?
    I mean... with as many teens have cell-phones these days... you'd think 1 in 20 would go "Oh hey, that girl is getting raped... let me stroll off and call the cops rather than letting rapists run free so I don't possibly get raped by these people, too."
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    Ugh, people are fucking disgusting. I hope all the assholes are eventually found and arrested. Poor girl.
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    Maybe I'm glad I'm not having a girl; I would have to go vigilante just so these wouldn't be a threat to her someday...

    ^Maybe I should anyway...

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    I can't think of a single reason why any one of those assholes should still be alive.

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    I have a proposition for all convicted of raping her:

    We'll round them all up, and give them an injection of 0.5 mg of Tetrodotoxin to paralyze their muscles, but keep them alert. 0.5 mg (by injection) of Tetrodotoxin is considered lethal for someone weighing around 170 lbs. The drug will reduce some of the pain that they feel, allowing them to sustain more torture without passing out. A shot of adrenalin can help keep them awake for the festivities if the participant seems woozy and faints from the pain. Intense pains incurred by cutting through bone and muscle will likely not be alleviated by Tetrodotoxin.

    After they have been paralyzed and the drug has taken effect (about 90 minutes), then the fun can begin. We will allow all of the male friends and family members of the victim to come in to the room in which the paralyzed participant is being stored. They can do whatever they want, so long as they do not kill the participant. The object is to subject them to a miserable, painful, slow death.

    The effects of the toxin are apparent very quickly. At first, they will lose the ability to move at the injection site. However, after 120 minutes they will begin experiencing respiratory failure, and possibly convulsions. They will die slowly, with an average death taking 4-6 hours.

    The best source of the Tetrodotoxin is the Pufferfish that is found in the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of California. The Pufferfish that is found in the Atlantic Ocean has had no confirmed cases of toxicity.

    Good idea, right?

    NOTE: While all of the information in this post is considered medically accurate, I do not condone torture--usually.
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    Default Re: 15 yr old gang raped at homecoming

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    I have a proposition for all convicted of raping her:

    We'll round them all up, and give them an injection of 0.5 mg of Tetrodotoxin to paralyze their muscles, but keep them alert. 0.5 mg (by injection) of Tetrodotoxin is considered lethal for someone weighing around 170 lbs. The drug will reduce some of the pain that they feel, allowing them to sustain more torture without passing out. A shot of adrenalin can help keep them awake for the festivities if the participant seems woozy and faints from the pain. Intense pains incurred by cutting through bone and muscle will likely not be alleviated by Tetrodotoxin.

    After they have been paralyzed and the drug has taken effect (about 90 minutes), then the fun can begin. We will allow all of the male friends and family members of the victim to come in to the room in which the paralyzed participant is being stored. They can do whatever they want, so long as they do not kill the participant. The object is to subject them to a miserable, painful, slow death.

    The effects of the toxin are apparent very quickly. At first, they will lose the ability to move at the injection site. However, after 120 minutes they will begin experiencing respiratory failure, and possibly convulsions. They will die slowly, with an average death taking 4-6 hours.

    The best source of the Tetrodotoxin is the Pufferfish that is found in the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of California. The Pufferfish that is found in the Atlantic Ocean has had no confirmed cases of toxicity.

    Good idea, right?

    NOTE: While all of the information in this post is considered medically accurate, I do not condone torture--usually.
    Hi, are you studying medicine too?! Though I'm not sure if adrenaline would be effective against TTX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    I have a proposition for all convicted of raping her:

    We'll round them all up, and give them an injection of 0.5 mg of Tetrodotoxin to paralyze their muscles, but keep them alert. 0.5 mg (by injection) of Tetrodotoxin is considered lethal for someone weighing around 170 lbs. The drug will reduce some of the pain that they feel, allowing them to sustain more torture without passing out. A shot of adrenalin can help keep them awake for the festivities if the participant seems woozy and faints from the pain. Intense pains incurred by cutting through bone and muscle will likely not be alleviated by Tetrodotoxin.

    After they have been paralyzed and the drug has taken effect (about 90 minutes), then the fun can begin. We will allow all of the male friends and family members of the victim to come in to the room in which the paralyzed participant is being stored. They can do whatever they want, so long as they do not kill the participant. The object is to subject them to a miserable, painful, slow death.

    The effects of the toxin are apparent very quickly. At first, they will lose the ability to move at the injection site. However, after 120 minutes they will begin experiencing respiratory failure, and possibly convulsions. They will die slowly, with an average death taking 4-6 hours.

    The best source of the Tetrodotoxin is the Pufferfish that is found in the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of California. The Pufferfish that is found in the Atlantic Ocean has had no confirmed cases of toxicity.

    Good idea, right?

    NOTE: While all of the information in this post is considered medically accurate, I do not condone torture--usually.
    How about just put them in a small gym with locked doors, and give the family and friends of the girl baseball bats and let them in the gym to beat them to death one at a time.

    I'm not a barbaric kind of guy but this shit deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    Hi, are you studying medicine too?! Though I'm not sure if adrenaline would be effective against TTX.
    No, I am not studying medicine, but thank you

    I have access to medical books, my mom is an RN.
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    "Charles Ramsey, a member of the Richmond school board, said the school district bears some responsibility for the attack. School administrators and police apparently weren't watching the area as they should have, Ramsey said."

    THAT is what really bothers me. How does something like this happen at an organized school function where administration was supposed to be supervising minors?? o_O

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    The whole thing makes me sick. i part that bothered me the most was the fact that when describing how the cops found out, they used the term "reminiscing." "reminiscing" is something you when you remember good times... i.e. "reminsicing" about all the parties in college, "reminicing" about the times when i made really good money at work etc etc. "reminiscing" about witnessing or partaking in a 2.5 hour gang rape is... i dont know how to describe how awful that is.

    And the fact that it took place at homecoming is also way fucked up. From the picture of the school though, im guessing it is in a really bad neighborhood. A lot of public schools in this country get skipped out on when it comes to providing the basic things necessary to make them function. Like security at a high school dance to prevent a huge tragedy like this from happening.

    All of the punishments suggested at once would be fair for the people who were part of this.
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    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    I thing the rape was ridiculous, but at the same time, this was a case of not being where you should be, doing what you should be. The girl skipped the dance and went drinking, thereby putting herself in harm's way. Now I'm NOT saying that it's her fault that she was raped! I'm saying that maybe her father should have been more vigilant in seeing that his dauhgter was actually where she should have been. As a parent of a 19 yr old girl, I'm speaking from experience. When she was in high school, I made sure she was safe to the best of my ability. I never just dropped her off, too much can happen between your car door and a building entrance. And why did it take him 2 hours to look for her??? If my child didn't come to my car within 15 min of when she was supposed to be there, that would have been a cause for concern. The whole situation just makes me really angry and sad...

    http://news.aol.com/article/cops-gir...ichmond/737436

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    This reminds me of the old Jodi Foster movie..the Accused. Where after the rapist...they go to court after all the people who stood around watching and cheering the guy on. They won too. Powerful movie...the rape scene is disturbing.

    Every last one of those people should be prosecuted to the full power of the law.

    And if it were my daughter.....they wouldnt live to see college.

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    http://www.wsbtv.com/nationalnews/21431235/detail.html

    ^^
    This is the story that got my attn. Watch the video

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    The bystanders are all as guilty of the rape as the rapist. Our society pisses me off so badly because we will end up coddling all of these others, any one of which could have and should have had the balls to do something.
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    Wow this is so sad. I hope that this girl recovers snd by some blessing cannot remember Anything. How freaking disgusting is this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoclatDiva21 View Post
    I thing the rape was ridiculous, but at the same time, this was a case of not being where you should be, doing what you should be. The girl skipped the dance and went drinking, thereby putting herself in harm's way. Now I'm NOT saying that it's her fault that she was raped! I'm saying that maybe her father should have been more vigilant in seeing that his dauhgter was actually where she should have been. As a parent of a 19 yr old girl, I'm speaking from experience. When she was in high school, I made sure she was safe to the best of my ability. I never just dropped her off, too much can happen between your car door and a building entrance. And why did it take him 2 hours to look for her??? If my child didn't come to my car within 15 min of when she was supposed to be there, that would have been a cause for concern. The whole situation just makes me really angry and sad...

    http://news.aol.com/article/cops-gir...ichmond/737436
    Seriously it was HOMECOMING. At my school no one was dropped off by their parents. I am glad you were so vigilant with your daughter but in no way was this the girl or the parents fault.
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    It's not the fault of the parents (except perhaps those of the rapists.)

    Now to discuss the bystanders...

    I can understand not wanting to get involved with zero tolerance violence policies. I mean, we hear all about kids getting thrown out for having aspirin. Can you imagine the school's response for being involved in a rape?

    Can you imagine the risks of doing the right thing and getting mixed up with one of the rapists? To be hauled off by the police even as a witness. I mean when it comes this stuff EVERYONE is getting cuffed and hauled off until it's figured out who did what to who when.

    Call the police? And be the target for an obviously violent gang (of older kids) until one can move out of the area? Be known as a snitch!?!?

    Here's the truth of the thing when it comes to the area: for the most part, the government doesn't control it. It's run by gangs and illegal aliens.

    Those are my theories for how such a thing can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    It's not the fault of the parents (except perhaps those of the rapists.)

    Now to discuss the bystanders...

    Call the police? And be the target for an obviously violent gang (of older kids) until one can move out of the area? Be known as a snitch!?!?

    Those are my theories for how such a thing can happen.
    I take it you've never heard of anonymous tips? Someone could have easily left and called 911.. Nobody forced these people to stand there LAUGHING at it. Fuck those people. It's one thing to be an innocent bystander and not know how they should react (google the Bystander Effect), but it's another when you intentionally stand there AMUSED by what's going on, even instigating it, without so much as discreetly dialing a 3 digit number on your phone and holding it in a way that the operator can hear what's going on and trace your call... and instead, using said phone to TAKE PICTURES for your own enjoyment.

    Anyone who stood there and watched and instigated the attack should be charged with accessory to rape of a child. And on top of that, anyone who took cell phone pics and videos should be charged with possession of child pornography/rape (which often leads to having to register as a sex offender in itself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    Those are my theories for how such a thing can happen.
    I agree with your theories, and even when we left Compton CA long ago the police didn't have much control; the areas are run by thugs, and crossing the thugs is very dangerous, but even so... the only way to prevent a total downward spiral is to make it clear that the by-standers are forced to make a choice.

    If they choose not to cross the gangs then they still need to face the consequences with the rest of society. I could even grasp fear of involvement, and understand some leniency for a person who ran from the scene and avoided reporting it. That is bad but there is still a world of difference between leaving out of fear of becoming involved, and staying to watch and be amused.

    Whether someone stayed and enjoyed themselves to gain approval with the gangs, or because they lack any ability to apply how they'd want to be treated if they were the victim, either way they should be charged and experience some consequences for their choice. Not for them, but so that the next group faced with a similar situation knows there will be a consequence. And just maybe the next time the fear of consequences will cause the situation to turn out a little better for the next victim.
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    You know my original idea can still happen...
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    number of people under arrest in the case up to 6 ... ages 15 to 21 ... and they're still looking for more

    and we haven't even gotten to the people who stood by and watched yet.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE TODAY?!?!?!

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    Slightly off subject....I understand that there may have been someone as old as 25 involved.

    How the fuck is a 25 year old at a high school homecoming dance?

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    I used to live in Richmond.

    First guess, the security guards were some lazy ass bastards who couldn't be bothered to do their job.

    Second, men who weren't students were then allowed to loiter.

    Third, this is not HER OR HER PARENTS FAULT even if she was drinking unless you think you should die next time you have a beer.

    Fourth, any woman in this thread that doesn't understand realilty (i think it's chocolate diva) get a grip.

    This does not surprise me. Those school security guards are lazy ass bad attitude almost felon motherf'ers.

    They should get in trouble before kids too scared to do anything, it's their job.

    I'm a woman and that's the first place I would have patrolled.

    People who blame the victim are sick and the olly thing I can think is experience it yourself, or maybe your children. Oh but you say they would never drink, if they ever do I hope you remember this and tell them they deserve to be raped for 2 1/2 hours and you help them get it.

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    You know you are an ass.
    You don't piss me off becuase I would never notice you in the real world.

    Anyone who just said that is inhumane and evil. If that's what you want to be....

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