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    hey all, i've been lurking around this site for a couple of months because i've been thinking about dancing on and off for the past year or so. anyhoo, after months of buying outfits, shoes, watching videos, reading sw threads from 2004 TWICE, lol, i finally convinved myself that i was ready to audition. and that is where my troubles begin...
    the first club i went to was a topless dive in downtown la who i heard will hire anyone. the doorman seemed really excited to see that i was there to audition but since the manager wasn't there at the time he directed me to the dj who gave me an application to fill out and told me to call back that monday or tuesday. i called monday and the manager wasn't in. i went back in on tuesday and the manager wasn't in. i even tried wednesday, and was told that a hiring manager is only there on monday and tuesday, ugh. figuring it was the universe's way of telling me that this was not the club for me, i started looking for another club.
    the second club i pursued was another topless dive, but this one was in hollywood. i stopped by on a whim and i ended up chatting with the manager for 20 minutes who let me audition on the spot. i was pretty nervous on stage but i tried to remember everything i've read here such as moving slow, keeping eye contact, etc. and i thought i did okay. after i got off stage the manager told me that they had too many girls at the time but to give him a call in a couple of days.... i was rejected. it was a very nice/sweet rejection,lol, but a rejection nonetheless...
    now i'm feeling completely discouraged about even looking for another club because the first 2 have been utter and complete failures. after i left the 2nd club i began to look for things to improve, i don't really have the "sexy" look, but i'm definitely cute. sexy, no. cute, i can do. i'm pretty average sized for a black girl, my hips and ass are very round and my thighs are thick but i run so they're toned and my stomach is flat. my dancing, can definitely improve on stage, maybe that was the reason? idk. i don't even really know what i'm asking of you all, i'm just confused and discouraged and maybe looking for some encouragement....

    on a happier note, , i really wanted to thank all the ladies on here because these boards are like the holy grail for us newbs and i'm really excited to be apart of it all- first post, whoop, whoop! so all-in-all, i just wanted to say HEY!

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    Congrats on going and auditioning... that's half the battle! Don't get discouraged yet, it's too soon for that. Also, call back the manager in a few days. Sometimes we interpret things as a blow off that really aren't. For example last night I totally thought this guy was blowing me off when he said to "come back after I've danced with the waitress" and I was tempted not to go back and talk to him... but I did anyhow and I made 75% of my money off of him! Plus, a lot of girls don't get hired the first time around. Just keep looking at your options.
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    At this point at least you know what to expect so you won't have to be as nervous next time. You know you have a nice body and positive attitude so try not to sweat it. I have been rejected at a club that wouldn't allow me to audition. You are not the first or last person that will have this experience.

    Keep trying!

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    thanks for the encouragement ladies! i've decided not to let myself get too down about being rejected, that's part of the job, right? i'm thinking about checking out a few clubs sometime next week, after finals are over with so i'll keep you guys posted!

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    I am glad you're being positive. Good Luck!

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    I'm 95% sure I know which clubs you auditioned at, and you don't want to work at any of them, so take it as the universes way of not having you start at a bad club.

    Topless dive bar downtown-- really sketchy and full of cheap customers. I suggest not working downtown. You'll do good on event nights but the usual crowd is going to be locals who are are pretty cheap. If you really want to work downtown I would suggest working at the Rhino (but thats a nude club).

    Topless clubs in Hollywood- if you auditioned at Star Strip, they have the sleaziest managers ever and I have heard horror stories from girls that worked there (one told me the manager wanted her to give him a lap dance and something else as her audition). If you auditioned at Jumbo's, I have heard good things but they are really picky about your stage performance, you have to be REALLY good.

    Topless clubs in LA kind of suck, I would suggest doing bikini if you're against nude (that's where the money is here) instead and trying out Plan B or Fantasy Island. You'll probably make more at either of those clubs than most topless ones because I don't know of any topless club in this city that has upscale or wealthy clienteled.

    If you really want to do topless maybe try The Grey Goose, I've heard OK things about it (although it is pretty ghetto) or one of the topless clubs in the valley (look at the review section).

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    I'm 95% sure I know which clubs you auditioned at, and you don't want to work at any of them, so take it as the universes way of not having you start at a bad club.


    lol! i think there's only one topless club downtown(?) and it is a complete dive but having zero experience i figured i'd have a greater chance of getting hired there and then eventually moving to a better club. i did lots of research and reasoned that plan b is probably the best club to work at, since it's known for attracting the guys with money but the website was pretty intimidating, the girls on there are gorgeous so i figured that i definitely need to up my game before auditioning there. later this week/next week after finals i was thinking about heading to check out some other clubs, fi and the goose are actually the 2 clubs on my list so i'm happy to hear you've heard good things about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    Topless clubs in Hollywood- if you auditioned at Star Strip, they have the sleaziest managers ever and I have heard horror stories from girls that worked there (one told me the manager wanted her to give him a lap dance and something else as her audition). If you auditioned at Jumbo's, I have heard good things but they are really picky about your stage performance, you have to be REALLY good.
    i guess that would explain why i was rejected after my totally amateur stage show! i know i need to improve my dancing but i wish there was another way for managers to audition girls because i know i can be good at this job, i've been separating guys from their money since elementary! hahaha!
    as far as star strip, i heard to stay away from there from a couple of people! but if i'm correct, i believe that club is nude?

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    ^Sorry not Star Strip, Star Garden... I always get those two confused.

    I would say Fantasy Island is your best bet. I've known girls that work at Plan B and they weren't anything amazing, the pictures on their site are pretty old. But if you're nervous to go and audition there, get some experience somewhere else first. I've heard the money is good at FI and the management is pretty good. Ive never worked there but my club is in the same area, the customers are pretty good here.

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    Try not to take rejections personally (even though it's hard not to). Hiring managers and whatnot can come across as crass just because they see so many girls that they have a canned response to them--they don't usually mean to hurt your feelings.

    That being said, I know many ladies on this board (some super sexy ones, some blonde bombshells, some sultry brunettes, some black women, etc.) have been turned down at one time or another for a plethora of reasons. If you know you're good-looking, then being rejected probably has much more to do with club politics/policies than your appearance/presentation/performance. So as much as you can, try to shrug it off.

    Also keep in mind that with the economy, the majority of clubs are saturated with strippers right now, which can lower your chances of 'getting in'. It's a hiring manager's market, in other words.

    Persistence is key!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    Topless clubs in LA kind of suck, I would suggest doing bikini if you're against nude (that's where the money is here) instead and trying out Plan B or Fantasy Island.
    I don't work topless... but I had a friend who worked at Fantasy Island when she was in town.
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    Thank you for that Charlie, that was right on time.

    Maybe it would be good for you to get your feet wet in a smaller club. That way you'd have some work related experience behind you, a reference, and a chance to fine tune your hustle and stage show/presence.

    I'd also like to suggest that you stop in any of the bars you'd like to someday work at and just watch the girls. See how they dress themselves, how they do their makeup, how they work the floor, how they interact with customers, what kind of stuff they do onstage and how they "work it." Not everybody starts out as a pole superstar, but for a new dancer I think it's good to see all kinds of different stage shows. You can learn a LOT just by watching folks.

    I know it's tough right now, but you WILL get hired someplace... And when you do, no matter how fancy or rugged the club is, just remind yourself that it's a stepping stone. Take advantage of the opportunity, and learn as much as you can while you're working there. It's all going to help make you a better performer.


    Good luck!

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    "I'd also like to suggest that you stop in any of the bars you'd like to someday work at and just watch the girls. See how they dress themselves, how they do their makeup, how they work the floor, how they interact with customers, what kind of stuff they do onstage and how they "work it." Not everybody starts out as a pole superstar, but for a new dancer I think it's good to see all kinds of different stage shows. You can learn a LOT just by watching folks."
    ^Is GREAT advice. If you are not a natural then go hang out at a club, have a lapdance or two, watch the stage (and tip) and see what it is the good dancers do that you can work on - videos and forums will only get you so far, you have to experience it to understand.

    Starting off in a smaller club can work well as it will allow you to gain confidence and learn from more experienced girls.

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