View Poll Results: Do you offer or do "EXTRAS"?

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  • YES, I offer the extras to the customer before they ask

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  • OTHER, I give extras to those I like on a whim, free

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    Default Extras, why customers ask?

    I've been reading here a lot about complaints from dancers of customers who ask for extras. Usually it is because there are dancers who have provided extras to the customers in the past.

    Do dancers ever "offer" extras without being asked? This question of course is best answered by those who do extras. Do you offer them or do you wait for them to ask? I think most dancers here don't want to admit to doing extras so I'll put it into a anonymous poll or try to at least, I'm not familiar with this forum.

    You can choose more than 1 option.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    You know, you have to figure in that in plenty of these "anonymous" threads about extras.. CUSTOMERS themselves vote.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    You know, you have to figure in that in plenty of these "anonymous" threads about extras.. CUSTOMERS themselves vote.
    You are so right! Dang... Needs 4 more options too. I can't find a way to edit them in.

    Such as

    Do you ask the dancers for extras

    Do dancers offer you extras

    Do dancers do extras on a whim, free

    Do you attempt an extra and then tip after?

    Maybe some Customers are willing to answer that in a reply?

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    no, what I meant was, customers will respond as dancers to try to make it seem like more dancers give extras.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    What about a one time whim to a likeable customer? Does that really count, if it was one time in 10 years?

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    it doesnt sound like you have an no, i dont do extras option. i dont really think "no, i wait for the customer to ask" qualifies many of the girls here. I dont wait for customers to ask, i try to hustle and make my extras-free sale quickly and steer them away from the extras question. I try to dodge situations where i will be asked for extras. Many of the other girls on here who are effective sales-women do the same... i dont think many of us specifically wait for them to ask.

    And you forgot the bait and switch option-- as in yes i offer extras to lure them in, then i dont do them.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    yes bait and switch is needed!!!
    and a no i do not do extras option would be very good eh

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiStrawberry Splenda View Post
    What about a one time whim to a likeable customer? Does that really count, if it was one time in 10 years?
    I don't consider an extra an extra if I've know the dancer for at least a few months and we have some chemistry or attraction between us and she does it for the fun of it or we do it for our mutual pleasure.

    I'm talking about non-extras girls when I met them, then she'll do something out of the blue for the fun of it. It may happen several times or it might be a one time deal.

    Yes, I said it here first, sometimes, some dancers, not all, enjoy an occasional "extra" with a customer that she likes a little or has some attraction to.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSmith View Post
    I don't consider an extra an extra if I've know the dancer for at least a few months and we have some chemistry or attraction between us and she does it for the fun of it or we do it for our mutual pleasure.

    I'm talking about non-extras girls when I met them, then she'll do something out of the blue for the fun of it. It may happen several times or it might be a one time deal.

    Yes, I said it here first, sometimes, some dancers, not all, enjoy an occasional "extra" with a customer that she likes a little or has some attraction to.
    Haha. Well. My ex, M and I had so much chemistry in our five hour VIP that I had to give him my number, or I would have broken my own moral code. We didn't do anything inside the club, but when he flew back to LV two weeks later- oh man. It was on. I remember saying "I can't, give me your number or I am going to lose my job" when he asked for a sixth hour.

    I guess you could, at some angle, distort that as OTC- but we did date, not have a customer-dancer relationship. I put the kibosh on that interaction real quick.

    There has also been one or two guys that I became friends with and actually told them I didn't want their money, I'd rather be their friend.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Where is the option to say " HELL NO, Never have in 9.5 years, Never will, no customer will ever be worthy of that.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Yeah, I'm with the HELL NO option. Never done it, will never do it.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post

    And you forgot the bait and switch option-- as in yes i offer extras to lure them in, then i dont do them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Il_Bella View Post
    yes bait and switch is needed!!!
    and a no i do not do extras option would be very good eh
    Thank you for being honest that is why I don't do private dances.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    At the club where I work...just touching dancers waists or legs is considered an extra....generally every dancer asks for a tip if guys wanna do that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSmith View Post
    Yes, I said it here first, sometimes, some dancers, not all, enjoy an occasional "extra" with a customer that she likes a little or has some attraction to.
    I would amend that to "some dancers, not all, give an occasional 'extra' to regular customers to keep them spending".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    I would amend that to "some dancers, not all, give an occasional 'extra' to regular customers to keep them spending".

    Phil,
    Phil-W, from reading your posts, you obviously know nothing about SCs and what motivates the dancers and the customers.

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ngering&page=3

    Scroll to post# 59

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSmith View Post
    Phil-W, from reading your posts, you obviously know nothing about SCs and what motivates the dancers and the customers.

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ngering&page=3

    Scroll to post# 59
    As as to post #59, you seem to grasp at every straw that suggests a dancer's primary motivation is not in fact money, but because they are attracted to their customers.

    T'aint so, my friend....

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    I've totally stared at guys' wallets with lust in my heart
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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Steve and Phil, I'm sure you are both correct on some level. It stands to reason that there (just given the sheer number of dancers) have been dancers who have given a rare extra to a customer they were insanely attracted to for whatever reason. I'm sure there have also been dancers who normally don't do extras, but who were tempted to do one to keep a long term big-spender coming back.

    I'd wager that neither is common, as most dancers either do or do not do extras, period. But, there is always a gray area. Albeit a small one.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Another possibility, and very common occurrance: Dancer is drunk/high, and not thinking straight, performs the extras because inhibitions are down, not because she is actually physically attracted to the customer.

    And we would also have to define extras for this purpose. Some consider any contact at all an extra, I've never worked in one of those clubs.

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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    As a customer please define extras.

    I didn't vote because the more likely option for my style of dance was not available.

    Have I ever given a hand job, blow job, had sex, let a guy touch my pussy...that would be a negative.

    One time a customer kissed me. Although it was unwarranted it was at least nice, and I already thought he was cute any way.

    Getting kissed (no reciprocation) was about the raciest thing I would consider an extra that's happened with me.

    Would I have ever offered to kiss him? No. If he would have asked "Can I kiss you?" I would have also replied no. It just happened on a whim and it wasn't gross. I still gave him my kissing speech as in don't do it ever.
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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by ROGERRABBIT View Post
    I've been reading here a lot about complaints from dancers of customers who ask for extras. Usually it is because there are dancers who have provided extras to the customers in the past.

    Do dancers ever "offer" extras without being asked? This question of course is best answered by those who do extras. Do you offer them or do you wait for them to ask? I think most dancers here don't want to admit to doing extras so I'll put it into a anonymous poll or try to at least, I'm not familiar with this forum.

    You can choose more than 1 option.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Thank you for being honest that is why I don't do private dances.
    Private dances shouldn't be about that. I'm a stripper, not a prostitute. I'm not judging what other girls do. Just bc so & so does it, doesn't mean everyone else does.


    If a customer asks me for an extra, straight up... I get up and leave. I hav no patience for bullshit. I'm not willing to risk getting violated in private for a few hundred dollars. I don't do extras, & I still do fucking good(despite of all the BS).

    I am SICK and TIRED of assholes asking for an extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    Steve and Phil, I'm sure you are both correct on some level. It stands to reason that there (just given the sheer number of dancers) have been dancers who have given a rare extra to a customer they were insanely attracted to for whatever reason. I'm sure there have also been dancers who normally don't do extras, but who were tempted to do one to keep a long term big-spender coming back.

    I'd wager that neither is common, as most dancers either do or do not do extras, period. But, there is always a gray area. Albeit a small one.
    I like gray area dancers. For an older guy like me, sometimes extras happen with these lovely young ladies after we have been to VIP with me spending money on them for about a month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    As a customer please define extras.

    I didn't vote because the more likely option for my style of dance was not available.

    Have I ever given a hand job, blow job, had sex, let a guy touch my pussy...that would be a negative.

    One time a customer kissed me. Although it was unwarranted it was at least nice, and I already thought he was cute any way.

    Getting kissed (no reciprocation) was about the raciest thing I would consider an extra that's happened with me.

    Would I have ever offered to kiss him? No. It just happened on a whim and it wasn't gross. I still gave him my kissing speech as in don't do it ever.
    I'm with hacks here. I have never given anything in the form of a hj, bj, sex, let a guy eat me out, or touch my vagina. I have never had any OTC contact with a customer. I have maybe gone too far with a customer when I was newbie and had an attraction to custy, and made out with him. Or just felt too scared/shy to tell a customer no or get angry with him. This has happened 3-4 times in 8 yrs of dancing and was 6 years ago at least.

    There are a variety of reasons why girls give extras. Some girls give extras to keep a customer spending, feel they have to in order to keep up with competition, don't want to seem like a prude and want the customer to 'like' them, don't know how to say no or how to get firm with a customer who won't stop, to give them a leg up on other dancers, to try to make more money, or they have been having a hard time making money and think that extras will help.

    The contact 'rules' are blurry at my club right now so except for all those obvious things, it is hard to know what exactly an extra is at my club. It used to be that any touching at all was an extra. Now touching is common as nearly all dancers allow some sort of touching, even if areas are "limited". It used to be that boob touching was definetely an extra, but now at least 50% of the dancers allow boob touching during a standard dance. Mgmt just says that they would "prefer" no touching, but also says they can't expect girls to give a 1996 lapdance. There is no clear definition of what you can and can't allow a custy to do anymore (besides the sex acts mentioned above)

    I would classify that most girls have done some sort of mediocre "extra" in certain cases such as letting a guy touch her back/legs in strict no contact clubs, kissing, boob licking, grinding if not allowed, breast/butt touching if not allowed, rubbing cock through pants, blowing/mouthing cock through pants, would fall into the category of mediocore extras. Usually these sort of extras are done at 'no extra charge' and just to give them a 'leg up' on the competition or to try to keep the guy buying dances. Extras are no longer "I'll let you do X if you pay more for the dance." Some extra girls even give cheaper dance prices or "bundle" dance prices. Usually only hardcore extras are done for more money upfront, and sometimes not even then.
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    Extras (in London at least) tend to be defined as fingering, HJ, BJ, etc - acts that are explicitly sexual.

    One thing that has (to a degree) kept even more extras out of the pub and clubs in London is the prevalence of 'private parties' - essentially unlicensed functions arranged by extras dancers for customers they know want extras.

    Essentially punters go along and negotiate with the dancer as to the type of extra you want and the price they are willing to pay. Anecdotally, I understand the going price for a HJ or BJ is about £50 ($80). This compares to £15 ($20) - £20 ($30) for a standard lap dance in a pub or club.

    I have occasionally had conversations with guys who go along to these sort of functions.

    Some are delusional about the dancers motivation for doing it: "it's not all about the money...." They seem to persuade themselves that the dancer is attracted to them - hence the extra. (Never mind that the dancer is willing to do a similar extra for anyone else who has the cash).

    Others fully understand they are paying for a sexual service and they just represent $80 to the dancer. For them, it seems to be a case of the physical release they get.

    There is a private Yahoo chat group (that I'd never get invited to in a month of Sundays) where apparently they compare notes on who's done what to whom.

    I suspect one motivation for going to these private parties is they see it as less of a stigma getting an extra from a dancer as opposed to paying a prostitute for their services. A classic case of our internal mental processes always working to put our own actions in the best possible light....

    Phil.
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    Default Re: Extras, why customers ask?

    one thing i have noticed is that many girls don't even consider a handjob a extra these days, its not even something they consider dirty. Quite surprising i may say. If my wife was a dancer and she was jacking cocks all day i would have a probelm with that

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    No I never do extras. However 2 years ago I had a regular and I was very attracted to him. I did things with him ITC that were against the rules but no sexually explicit acts like hj, bj etc. Then I gave him my number and he was my bf for 2 years.
    It was the worst decision I have ever made. Not b/c he was a customer necessarily but just b/c he was a low life person. I don't think meeting guys at work is a good idea.

    As far as extras with customers, there have been nights where the money was shit and I felt desperate but at the end of the day it's only money and it's not worth lowering myself to that. I also don't want to catch STD's, get arrested, or ruin my reputation within my city and club.
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