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    If I am nice to the fat kid with chocolate I hope he shares, am I being kind?

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    Will you continue to be nice if he does not?

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    No, if the missing word is because.

    It's using him for his chocolate. If you wouldn't be kind without chocolate than no.

    But I think you're having fun. Does knowing that make me a buzzkill?

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    If he shares his chocolate and you continue to be kind, then you are being kind.
    If he shares his chocolate and then you stop being kind, then you are not kind.
    If he doesn't share his chocolate, then he's an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    If I am nice to the fat kid with chocolate I hope he shares, am I being kind?
    Very similar question:

    "What if I am nice to the pretty gal because I hope she will fuck me. Am I being kind?"

    Same answer?
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    You're being kind. The kid is fat, and that's not healthy.

    You're helping to rid him of his obesity problem.

    Awesome job!



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    No. Kindness is being nice to a person because he is a person. What you are doing is salesmenship, convincing a person to share with you because you are friendly. He could share his chocolate with anyone who enjoys chocolate, but chose to share with you because you are a friendly person.

    You both gain in this situation, he gets to spend time with a friendly person, you get chocolate. Win/win.


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    No; because the intent behind being kind was manipulative in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoJojo View Post
    If he shares his chocolate and you continue to be kind, then you are being kind.
    If he shares his chocolate and then you stop being kind, then you are not kind.
    If he doesn't share his chocolate, then he's an idiot.

    or just a hungry fat kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lklucky View Post
    No; because the intent behind being kind was manipulative in the first place.
    And you expect altruism when it comes to chocolate?? Hah!

    Seriously, everyone gains something for themselves when they do something for others. Even if it just makes them feel good about themselves.

    It's just the die-hard capitalists who always expect their gain will be monetary, directly or indirectly (substitutes for something they would have to buy themselves).
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    And you expect altruism when it comes to chocolate?? Hah!

    Seriously, everyone gains something for themselves when they do something for others. Even if it just makes them feel good about themselves.

    It's just the die-hard capitalists who always expect their gain will be monetary, directly or indirectly (substitutes for something they would have to buy themselves).

    Reminds me of an episode of Friends, where Chandler tells Phoebe that there is no selfless good deed.....Phoebe vows to find one, and I don't think she did....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    If I am nice to the fat kid with chocolate I hope he shares, am I being kind?
    {LOL}

    I love it!!!!

    Keep the PRECISE thought but change the parties and the chocolate to:

    If I am nice to a customer with money because I hope he shares it, am I being kind?

    of course it works equally well with:

    If I am nice to a dancer because she has a beautiful body and I hope she shares it, am I being kind.


    Brilliant Deogol. Just priceless.

    remember those that answered already... your votes are locked in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    No. Kindness is being nice to a person because he is a person. What you are doing is salesmenship, convincing a person to share with you because you are friendly. He could share his chocolate with anyone who enjoys chocolate, but chose to share with you because you are a friendly person.

    You both gain in this situation, he gets to spend time with a friendly person, you get chocolate. Win/win.
    Points for a straight forward, and obviously honestly felt, reply in my book.

    In my opinion both did give. An ethical conundrum comes about though if the kid sharing the chocolate did so out of the mistaken belief that the one being kind was being so honestly because they liked him/her.

    Is it the kid with the chocolate for being so naive as to believe that someone would come out of the blue with kindness, especially if they are hinting at wanting chocolate who presents the problem?

    Is it the kindly actor, who isn't really feeling kindly at all but just wants chocolate?

    Is it neither?

    Is it both?
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    Reminds me of an episode of Friends, where Chandler tells Phoebe that there is no selfless good deed.....Phoebe vows to find one, and I don't think she did....
    It's the Pleasure Principle from Freud.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    It's the Pleasure Principle from Freud.
    In part.


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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Rule View Post
    Points for a straight forward, and obviously honestly felt, reply in my book.

    In my opinion both did give. An ethical conundrum comes about though if the kid sharing the chocolate did so out of the mistaken belief that the one being kind was being so honestly because they liked him/her.

    Is it the kid with the chocolate for being so naive as to believe that someone would come out of the blue with kindness, especially if they are hinting at wanting chocolate who presents the problem?

    Is it the kindly actor, who isn't really feeling kindly at all but just wants chocolate?

    Is it neither?

    Is it both?
    To me it is unanswerable because we are not given info to know the kid's feelings.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    To me it is unanswerable because we are not given info to know the kid's feelings.
    Hmmm.

    Give me time to think about that.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    If I am nice to the fat kid with chocolate I hope he shares, am I being kind?
    Yes and no.

    Yes because he doesn't know that you have an ulterior motive. He thinks you're just being nice to him. That makes him feel good. So technically it is kind.

    However, you do have an ulterior motive. If he didn't have the chocolate, you wouldn't be kind in the first place.
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    If I knock him over and take his chocolate, I am being kind right? After all he is fat and shouldn't be eating it.

    Now it's an intervention!

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