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    Default Re: Why Would a Trust Fund Baby Become a Stripper?

    I personally would still do it just because I don't do anything to make someone think I am a "good girl". I do things I want and people just think what they will and I am okay with that. I love dancing and trying new things. Like next...I would love to try rope acrobactics.





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    Ok guys. I usually do not like to disclose this information but it seems appropriate for this thread.

    I have a modest trust fund. My parents are not multi-millionaires, and I did not grow up with it. My grandparents set them aside for me and my younger brothers, for the purposes of either paying for college or starting a business. We inherited them a couple years ago after my grandparents died. In addition to this my family has inherited a fairly large sum of money from my grandparents and another relative who died around the same time. My family is not super-rich, but they are now well-off enough to be able to retire and live off passive income(pensions and investment streams).

    I chose to become a dancer well after this happened. I love it for the personal freedom it gives me. I have the option not to work and be supported entirely from my trust fund while I am in college, but I don't like to feel like a spoiled rich brat. Dancing has also matured me tremendously. My family knows what I do and supports me-to tell the truth, I think they always suspected that I would end up being a dancer someday. I actually think my relationship with my family has improved drastically because of dancing. My dad even gives me lots of financial advice! (He's a retired accountant) I could honestly go on and on about why I choose to do this and feel it is a good choice for me right now, but I don't want to hog this thread. Just wanted to offer a bit of perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    but upon further google-ing of ms. gaga, it is not clear that she did stripping beyond some burlesque sets and that any reference to stripping as SWers understand it might well be an exaggeration for effect, among all her other such exaggerations. it is pretty hard to know with her entire schtick as a performance artist &tc.
    This would not surprise me at all. I've always suspected that this claim was part of her schtick. She doesn't move like a stripper at all!

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    Side note: Gaga grew up in Manhattan. Her family was 'rich' by relative standards, but not in the way you'd think. Article in Elle says she grew up very modestly. A lot of her family's richness was spent on her schooling, etc.

    I grew up in a similar family. I've always had everything I needed. But none of that can buy the independence that stripping gave me when I turned 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^^ Okay, I'll buy into your "independence" v. "freedom" distinction.

    A lot, if not most, upper-middle-class women are perfectly content to experience "freedom" in college, while continuing to rely on their parent's resources and even relying on some parental generosity after college.

    But, you're saying that there are some young women with such a strong hunger for complete "independence", that they will walk away from a very affluent lifestyle and turn to dancing for self-support?

    I'm not saying that either the first or the second choice are better than the other. I'm just curious - What percentage of dancers, if given this choice (i.e., multi-millionaire parents), would choose "independence"?
    Actually, despite your disclaimer, it seems like you do see stripping as something that should only be 'turned to' in destitute situations. Would you have asked the same question to a group of lawyers?

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    Default Re: Why Would a Trust Fund Baby Become a Stripper?

    Because some dancers like dancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Because some dancers like dancing.
    Yep. I bet this is very true in Lady Gaga's case. The girl really is an awesome performer, and obviously enjoys being the center of attention and entertaining. I bet she put on one hell of a stage show back when she was a stripper! i am also very impressed with the way that she made herself famous and quickly became an icon, and of course im impressed with how much money she made... i bet that she was a super hustler!

    thats how i imagine her at least.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Actually, despite your disclaimer, it seems like you do see stripping as something that should only be 'turned to' in destitute situations.
    That's inaccurate. Prior to this post, I saw stripping as something that women turn to only for highly-compensated "work", which is the theme in all the "I'm in love with a stripper" threads -- i.e., she's there to make money, not for entertainment or romance.

    So my question, upon learning of Lady Gaga's background (which might be a little distorted one way or another) is -- if a dancer already has all the money she needs and wants by birth to wealthy parents, could there be another reason she's there? (E.g., she loves to be the center of attention, she loves to perform in front of a crowd or she's an exhibitionist.)

    Based on the responses to this thread, I think the one personality trait that is exteremely strong in many dancers (i.e., the ones that would be dancing, despite having very wealthy parents) is their super-strong sense of "independence".

    Most college women (that economically continue to rely on their parents), consider themselves "very independent". But, dancers are uber-independent; they are in a whole different league as far as their need for complete and total independence from their parents and their self-sufficiency. The follow-up question would be: Is this because they had overbearing parents? Or would the outcome be the same, even with the very permissive and liberal parents? (I.e., is the strong sense of independence an internal trait or a reaction to their parents?)

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Would you have asked the same question to a group of lawyers?
    Oh, definitely. Would a "trust fund baby" work the long and grueling hours that I work and sacrifice so much of his/her social life? Probably not. I think the born-super-rich guys that become lawyers practice law for a couple of years, at most. Then, they usually turn to politics, which is a lot less grueling (except for the campaign months) and a lot more fun, not to mention the lavish parties, social events and traveling at taxpayer expense and the many liberal opportunities for profligation and debauchery.

    I would not be a lawyer if I was a trust fund baby... A scandalous senator?... Yes, I like that better...

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    Fair 'nuff.

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    ^^^ Thanks. Not to turn this into a class debate... But, I think the pride of "independence" is a solidly middle class virtue.

    Both, the very poor and the very rich are more than willing to live off of other people's money. Obviously, the very rich have unique skills at this: politicians subsidize their extravagant lifestyle with taxpayer money, CEO's of publicly-traded companies get annual 10+ million dollar bonuses from money that belongs to the shareholders (reverse robinhood: steal from the poor to pay the rich), rich owners of sports franchises get cities to pay for their stadiums (not to mention using eminent domain to kick people out of their own homes to make way for the stadiums) and big companies rely on state and local "economic development" packages to subsidize their moving and real estate development expenses, etc., etc., etc. (not to mention government bailouts of reckless investments driven by the unsatiable greed of billionaires)... and I almost forgot "government contracts" (e.g., Halliburton) which is just a mechanism for politicians to transfer mountain-high piles of taxpayer money to their friends.

    Only the middle class strives to make it on its own, without some form of welfare or handout.

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    well jack, i started dancing when i was 18. not because i needed the money at all, i was getting a weekly allowance down at college from both my parents and grandparents. i just always wanted to be an exotic dancer. i had much much lower self-esteem back then and found a strip tease to be a great way to get guys to notice how sexy i was when i was about 16 drunk at parties. i just kind of continued with that theme, of getting paid to be complimented by men and have them buy you drinks. well also at 18 i couldn't even get into a real bar but the clubs i worked at always let me drink. so it wasn't until a few years ago when i got back into dancing that i took it much more seriously, as a real job.

    i was more of a go-go dancer i guess for the first few years. the bikini clubs in jersey are considered strip clubs but i only did stage and not lapdances because i didn't need the money that bad. i probably wouldn't have gotten into stripping if i had to start off topless. didn't have the confidence in my little boobies back then.
    so i didn't come for the money, but i stayed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ... rich owners of sports franchises get cities to pay for their stadiums (not to mention using eminent domain to kick people out of their own homes to make way for the stadiums) ...
    Thread jack; the Giants and Jets built a new stadium, cost over one billion dollars, with their own money. Sounds good but New Jersey will only get regular tax revenue and will not share in the profits beyond that. It was built in the swamp next to the old stadium. I now return you to your regularly secluded thread.

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    I'd guess because she wanted to.. there could be a lot of reasons or just one but when it comes down to it none of us know shit! It's a personal decision to make and every individual is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    well jack, i started dancing when i was 18. not because i needed the money at all, i was getting a weekly allowance down at college from both my parents and grandparents. i just always wanted to be an exotic dancer. i had much much lower self-esteem back then and found a strip tease to be a great way to get guys to notice how sexy i was when i was about 16 drunk at parties. i just kind of continued with that theme, of getting paid to be complimented by men and have them buy you drinks. well also at 18 i couldn't even get into a real bar but the clubs i worked at always let me drink. so it wasn't until a few years ago when i got back into dancing that i took it much more seriously, as a real job.

    i was more of a go-go dancer i guess for the first few years. the bikini clubs in jersey are considered strip clubs but i only did stage and not lapdances because i didn't need the money that bad. i probably wouldn't have gotten into stripping if i had to start off topless. didn't have the confidence in my little boobies back then.

    so i didn't come for the money, but i stayed for it.
    I'm glad that dancing served to improve your self-esteem. Some dancers on SW have indicated that customer rejection has had the opposite effect on them, but its just a numbers game - like it is with all sales.

    I guess being a go-go dancer and not a lap-dancer, you didn't feel pressure to sell dances and did not have to face rejection. Once in a while (rarely), I meet a dancer that chats with me, but is 0%-hustle and does not ask for a dance. After a long time chatting, I'm the one that finally feels obligated to brings it up, like - Do you do lap dances or just stage dances? This might be a dumb question, but I'm suprised by these dancers that don't try to sell a dance after 15-20 minutes of chatting. Maybe those dancers are in a similar situation to yours, i.e., they don't feel any need to sell dances, but just want to hang-out, be complimented and get free drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    Thread jack; the Giants and Jets built a new stadium, cost over one billion dollars, with their own money. Sounds good but New Jersey will only get regular tax revenue and will not share in the profits beyond that. It was built in the swamp next to the old stadium. I now return you to your regularly secluded thread.
    I don't know the particulars of that deal, but I would be shocked to learn that a sports franchise did not ask a city for a major handout. I've been personally involved in one of these deals when I worked for a city government in Texas... It is shameless, but, I can't say more...

    When I lived in Irving, Texas, we lost the Dallas Cowboys because the city would not build them a new stadium. Irving had lured them away from Dallas when it built them their Irving stadium in 1971, but Irving refused to pony up the $1.15 billion for the new stadium they wanted in 2006. The City of Arlington lured them away. Supposedly, Arlington only paid a little over $325 million and Jerry Jones (owner) paid the rest. Arlington also destroyed 104 homes, forced the evacuation of 871 residents from their apartments and destroyed 32 commmericial buildings to make way for stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I don't know the particulars of that deal, but I would be shocked to learn that a sports franchise did not ask a city for a major handout.
    East Rutherford has a population of 8,716 and could not handout anything. With cost overruns of $600 million the NFL lent the owners $300 million. Remember two NFL teams will share the cost; both teams have sold out every game they ever played at the old stadium. They make the register ring.

    The only thing the State is kicking in is new roads and a new rail line, named after Senator Lautenberg who pulled some federal pork out the barrel for the project.

    The teams will pay $5 million annually to lease land at the Meadowlands from the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority. Once the new stadium is built, the authority will no longer collect 10 percent of gross ticket sales from games.

    The state isn't paying for the stadium's construction but will continue to pay debt on the old stadium, about $120 million.

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    to gain independence & rebel?

    or my screenwriter friend who did it to meet more interesting characters.....literally

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    I am a trust fund baby turned stripper. I think it was Yoda who mentioned not wanting to rely on Mommy and Daddy and not being willing to kiss ass. The money they have is THEIRS....not mine. I will continue to make my own way and not be dependent on them for support. I did "inherit" my money at age 25 and set up trusts for my kids with it...I now have three. The money is for their educations, weddings, etc. Let them use it if they need it.

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    I was never rich but I made my own money. When I danced I had another job. It was never about the money for me it is something I really enjoyed and had to try. Now Im into burlesque, and wish I had more money to buy the fabulous opulent outfits. Its a form of empowerment for me. I still pole dance and own a pole and to me that is a form of meditation. I was almost offended by the question, but then I realized most women do it for money and thats when dirty skanks are born ( no offense to anyone in particular, but the lust for money can create this in some women)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlynn87 View Post
    . I was almost offended by the question, but then I realized most women do it for money and thats when dirty skanks are born ( no offense to anyone in particular, but the lust for money can create this in some women)
    Offense taken.

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    I come from a quite wealthy family. I went to a Private school and my Dad is a successful businessman. All my adult life I have worked for my own money. I wouldn't take hand outs (unless I was really desperate.. and even then it would just be a loan). I can't imagine living off my family's money.

    I love doing my job. I get to express a very creative and sexual side of myself that I would have to keep hidden otherwise. I was thinking about this the other day actually. If I won the lottery or something I would continue doing this.. I really do enjoy it that much.

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    Groan. The idea of letting my parents hold money over my head as if I were a dog just... no. It'd be more trouble for me to meet my family standards than just do my own things. I barely have contact with my family.

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    I come from a family with 'old' money. There's a few reasons I dance even though I guess I don't need to. My mother is fairly supportive and still gives me typically what I want, however when I was younger I had even more. When I turned 18 my mom wanted me to understand the importance of being independent. While I have money, my mom also pretty much drilled it in me that it's for school (not for weekly shopping sprees and the alike) and things that would enhance school (travelling, which I have done quite a lot of, living in different countries to improve my foreign languages) and that it's financially smarter to continue to save and wait until after I graduate and have a career. My first year and a half in college I didn't work at all, my mom thought it was more important to study, but I was bored.

    It's kind of annoying to read about this stereotype that those who aren't working while in school just party and live off their parents and 'pay people to study' and cram. I left my first university because I didn't like the party atmosphere, not all of us a like that. It's not like strong work ethics only apply to those who have jobs and that students aren't like that. Being perfectly candid I have to admit, I do strip because I make a lot more money than I would as a waitress and it's less work and hours which makes it perfect for school. I actually want to work and be financially responsible. I'm used to a particular lifestyle and I've discovered I can continue living that way, but I really do get the satisfaction from earning my own money (not money that has been made by my family). I also believe this trait runs in my family, my great grandmother was a professional pianist and later opened her own jazz club and she didn't just hire off people to handle the business, even though my great grandfather had more than enough and she didn't have to work. My grandmother went to college in the 30s when many women did not and worked, although she was more a typical trust fund baby and only worked 13 years of her life, but considering the times (1940-60s) it's still untypical. And the same with my mother. Ironically, my father who came from money was completely opposite, he spent his time playing sports and partying a lot through his life and then retired really early...he was pretty lazy.

    And to answer your question: is it a result of over-bearing parents or liberal parents. My answer would be neither in my case...I've never done anything out of a reaction because of my mother. OP it seems to me that you have a difficult time accepting that someone with money would be doing this other than it being smart business. I guess it doesn't hurt that I do actually enjoy performing and being on stage and the challenge of making money. And I don't intend to stop soon either.

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