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    How do you deal with massive commission and VIP fees etc? i'm fed up of taking home a quarter of what i earn. it's disgusting, because i work f*king hard, but i'm not a massive high earner who can fork out loads of money to the club and still have laods to take home. it's at the situation where if you're at the threshold borderline, you end up taking home LESS if you earn MORE. What ways are there around it apart from hiding your cash which i always feel a bit dodgy about. tipping is also illegal but im sure it goes on, i jsut havent figured it out yet.
    would like to hear opinions on this. thanks.

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    I would love to hear a good reply also...some of the fees are a big downer.

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    well, manhattan is by far the most expensive place i've ever worked, and i did find ways to get out of the $200 tipout. but really, you may just have to hunt for a dive-club where tipout is low. no one deserves 70% for your effort, that's ridiculous.

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    "hunt for a dive-club where tipout is low" - is the best advice. I never work high end clubs because i refuse to have someone take 30 - 50% of my earnings at the end of the (very long) night. I prefer smaller 'dives' as they usually have less girls on, don't charge you for breathing and are more understanding if you need some flexibility with shifts. You might not have the opportunity to earn as much but you will take hom more in the long term because no one is taking such a high percentage.

    I really wish we would stand up for ourselves and stop letting clubs screw us over by taking our money. It's bad business sense. We should form strippers co-operative clubs where we take profit shares and set the terms and conditions!

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    i work at a club now where the split is 60/40 (60 to me) and worse on the vip rooms: for a half hr is 175, and only 90 goes to me!

    but most of the customers who come in here are plain rude. So i have temporarily gotten rid of my ladylike graciousness and have gotten very pushy about demanding tips. i dont usually advocate being pushy about tips, but at a club that takes so much of what you earn and is high contact nude and has customers who seem to get off on putting down the girls, i have pushed aside my qualms about it. And it works too, my earnings doubled here as soon as i started demanding tips.

    what do you mean tipping is illegal? you have to elaborate more. is it illegal to ask for tips or illegal for them to tip you on stage or illegal to tip period? What exactly is your system... you take home 25% or they take 25%? Is it due to VIP/CR cuts or a high house fee to begin with? All of these are factors in how to get around it.

    If asking for tips is illegal, i would try finding a way to strongly suggest they tip you with a very sure tone of voice. instead of "20$ plus a tip" try "20$, and if i do a good job, tip me more" or "and a tip if i deserve it" or something like this. if the customer is rude during the dance, i would also lay on a bit of guilt. i never advocated guiting customers before either, but working at a club where they take so much, if i am slapping a guys hand away from my coochie, he is going to be guilted into a big tip and i am not going to feel especially unprofessional about it.

    if its CR cuts, you could try being a bit sneaky about selling your time not in the CRs. At my old club, I would sometimes sneakily sell my time so my customer and I could hang out on the floor and watch/critique/be turned on the girls on stage together and dance for him too. This is very dependent on the customer and lay out though. This was a club with lotsa places to sit and a clear view of the stage and the music wasnt blaring so we could get cozy. And the customer was the type who wanted me around, but also wanted to feel like he was part of the party on the floor. And we kept all of hte dance money so the club didnt keep track. So selling my time in chunks on the floor and including the dances to songs he liked worked out well, and i got to keep all of my earnings. Another thing that I sometimes did to guys who i didnt want to go in the private rooms with because of the lack of bouncers/camers (these were obviously drunk guys who were very handsy and made me feel a bit unsafe) was basically lie and say we didnt have private rooms, and then sell my time dancing up front in chunks (100 for 5 songs, and since there is no break i will be able to get way more hot. something to that effect). This worked if hte guy didnt know the club set up, but again you need a club where dances arent commisioned. and i dont advocate being dishonest like this to all customers... only if you feel like being in the private room with htem would be traumatic. I also had guys who wanted neck rubs and would sell them at hte same price as a lap dance... and the club took no commision of this!

    So yea, it is all dependent of your set up. If you are a bit more specific about your layout we can probably give you better answers.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    spartaca, i agree.

    i don't see what the point of complaining about working a job where they take all your money and then CONTINUING to work there. granted, maybe you are in a bad place right now and moving to a new club right now is not an option, but keep your eyes open for better clubs. the longer dancers passively accept 30% of what they earned, the longer sc mgmt will think its acceptable to demand 70%

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    i don't think anyone passively accepts these conditions, we all find ways around it, ie. charging the customer more or accepting cash instead of club money. it's a good idea to keep the club money girls happy tho, they work on commission and are always helping get the dancers sit downs. but we should not have to feel like criminals for taking money that we earned. after all, for all the bullshit the club makes about us being 'self employed independent contractors', we are providing them free services by doing stage shows, the customers sure as hell aren't in there for the music! it is totally bad business sense, but the top end clubs know they can get away with it because there will always be girls coming in to plug the gaps, maybe without working permits so they will not complain. however if we all uniformly protested then i'm sure there would be a vast improvement. but all that happens is the dancers that get fed up move to another club and nothing changes.
    i have only worked in 3 clubs so far so i'm hardly an expert but the reason i had to leave the low house-fee places were because i was unhappy working there, there was too much dirty dancing and prostitution to compete with and the customers were often cheap and impossible to wrangle money out of. thats why i'm sticking with this high-fee place for the time being, and just working around it...i did try audition at 2 other reputable places but didn't get in.
    athena, i meant tipping the staff is illegal, not customers tipping the dancers.

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