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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola_sinn View Post
    That's because in SF it is waaaaay more socially acceptable to be gay, whereas in many parts of PA you are risking ostracism and even violence by being out of the closet. (Except in Philly)
    Yep. I was shocked to find out how homophobic pittsburgh was. I figured that it would be less homophobic than cleveland since it was further east and less in the midwest, but i was wrong. cleveland is pretty tolerant and accepting of sexual orientation, but not pittsburgh. Even some of the girls who worked in the strip club were homophobic! And strippers have always been some of the most accepting people in regards to sexuality, in my experience. I imagine the areas of PA in the stix must be a nightmare for gay people!
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Yeah having lived 15 years around SF I'm used to gay guys, but here (rural) I only ever see them with their wives.

    When I was working as a waitress I would these guys who were obviously gay (yeah I can tell and that's not homophobic it's from living near San Francisco) come in with their wives. Most of the women looked so unhappy, one almost comatose.

    So I don't just feel bad for the guys who won't come out of the closet. It is possible you know, there are gay bars and clubs all over Pittsburgh - it might be more homophobic but it rarely ends up in beat downs nowadays. And it's far healthier for the guys too, what a better life. I spent all my underage drinking here in gay and lesbian bars in the early 90's.

    A couple of my cousins are gay (shhh) but they don't bring women into the mix and lived way out in the styx where it's even more conservative.

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    you guys are awesome... thanks everyone for the input! keep 'em coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittygirl View Post
    So much of sex is in the brain.
    Truer words have never been spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by kittygirl View Post
    Pretending to fuck with a fake dick and massaging a prostate are totally different to me.
    Agreed! Big difference there. While I wouldn't quite call a guy who wants to get fucked up the ass doggy style with a 10" dildo gay, if he wants a girl to do it, I would bet he'd be a lot more inclined to try a guy if he hit a lonely spell, lol. But so what?

    Nothing especially 'gay', evil, or repugnant about it--though it's not really a pretty picture in my mind.



    But then I don't like dick anywhere near my fantasies. In porn I like solo girl or girl/girl. No fucking bukkake or gang-bang porn for me, please. And no hairy manass on the fucking screen, I hate it when they show the guy fucking the girl and all you see is his fucking hairy ass and balls, yecchh. I can look at my own dick anytime lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    If you're having sex with a girl, it's always straight sex. You can be fucking him up the ass, dressing up as a guy and slamming his prostate, etc. etc. If you're a chick and he's a dude, it's still straight.
    I'd have to agree, but that's a really funny picture in my mind, as in it made me laugh a bit.
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    I'm like ...actually vaguely shocked at this thread! I saw it, read the OP, and was like "Pfft! No way. Men enjoying rear-end stimulation =/= gay."

    I really thought this one was a no-brained. I'm VERY sexually open-minded though, so maybe that's some of it. I am just SO lost as to how anyone could possibly think that just because a man enjoys prostate/anal stimulation he's "latently homosexual" or has any tendency that direction at all. Like ... really lost. That makes absolutely NO logical sense.

    I guess it's social conditioning. Gay man have the buttsex, so if a man enjoys anything buttsexish, he therefore must be the gay.

    It still makes no god damned sense.
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    It's the strapon part. This is quite clear to me, I don't know about the rest of the guys out there.

    A guy getting anal stimulation, even with some sort of hand-held penis-shaped toy, is not the same as having someone physically adopting the semblance of male sex organs via strapping on a big dick, and using it on a guy, in exactly the same way a guy would do it.

    It might not be gay, strictly speaking--but the vast majority of men are going to take a pass on that, I imagine. For which you can hardly blame them, if women are to be allowed to eschew anal sex as well. Which of course is their right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's the strapon part. This is quite clear to me, I don't know about the rest of the guys out there.

    A guy getting anal stimulation, even with some sort of hand-held penis-shaped toy, is not the same as having someone physically adopting the semblance of male sex organs via strapping on a big dick, and using it on a guy, in exactly the same way a guy would do it.

    It might not be gay, strictly speaking--but the vast majority of men are going to take a pass on that, I imagine. For which you can hardly blame them, if women are to be allowed to eschew anal sex as well. Which of course is their right.
    Again, I'm just sort of failing to grasp it. lol I'm probably just firmly rooted in the logic of "whatever feels good, go for it". (Breaking laws and such aside, of course...)

    I still believe that the idea of a "strap on" is merely another form of the thrusting movement that can be pleasurable from the back door. What the hell is the difference? The ONLY thing I can see is the social conditioning aspect of it. Of course men have a right to forgo this, as do women. If it makes you uncomfortable - don't do it. No brainer.

    ... Still makes no sense.
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    I think some of you need to read what some of the rest of us are saying and not just act aghast.

    A guy having his ass fucked by a girl with a strap-on is not necessarily gay. CHECK.

    Does that satisfy your need for "open-mindedness" or whatever you want to call it? Good.



    Now that we have that out of the way, here's the deal. Gay men have sex that very often includes one man fucking the other in the ass.

    Agreed? I think that statement is self-evident.

    Now, if a man is latently homosexual, there is a chance that he might enjoy being buttsex but not even realize why he enjoys it. Does this mean that EVERY man that likes to be buttfucked with a strap-on is gay? No.

    Let me say that again because the last several times I've said it, it seems like no one remembers it...just because a man enjoys being fucked in the ass by a girl with a strap-on does not mean he is gay.

    Is that good? If I need to clarify that statement, let me know.

    Having said that, a man being fucked in the ass by a girl with a strap-on is a man who is putting himself in the "female"* role in sex. Again, that doesn't mean he's gay....but a man who is latently homosexual might subconsciously find satisfaction in such a role.


    *for lack of a better way to put it

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    Default Re: Strap on for guys...Gay or nay??

    Is getting a blow job from a guy at all appealing if you are straight? if not then what makes you think getting fucked up the ass by a girl gonna be fun for a gay guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Is getting a blow job from a guy at all appealing if you are straight? if not then what makes you think getting fucked up the ass by a girl gonna be fun for a gay guy?
    It is all about who is doing the penetrating. Did you notice it is dominating women that want to fuck a guy in the ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl_the_Pearl View Post
    It is all about who is doing the penetrating. Did you notice it is dominating women that want to fuck a guy in the ass?
    Um, sorry to burst that bubble, but I'm most definitely not a dominating woman (despite how it comes across online sometimes, anyone who knows me would say I am not), and I love doing it. However, the pleasure I get out of it is simply the pleasure in knowing I'm pleasing my partner. It has nothing to do with power for me.

    I think it all comes down to society. Men have been told that buttsex=gay and that is that. I mean, if your sexuality were based on what you like having done to you, then all women who like being eaten out must be latently gay, lol.

    I think people over think stuff. We try to assign some sort of meaning to everything that feels good, when in reality there is likely no reason beyond 'it feels good'.

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    Maybe because you can pretend anything you want.

    Equally as much as a guy could pretend he's getting fucked up the ass by a guy, even if it's physically a girl.

    I think sex is mostly mental stimulation, so
    A) the need for physical doesn't mean quite as much to me (I can have as good of a time with clit or vaginal even if I don't always get off, as a lot of girls have said)
    B) since you guys are mostly shocked that we think guys wouldn't like ass stimulation it's not that, but without 20th century implements a girl can't really do that - dilldoes have been common in many cultures for centuries, the concept of women strapping one on maybe in Sade's bedroom - so I think it's impllicit it replicates a man doing the fucking

    This isn't to say I want to call it the "female" role, but it's highly likely dudes are mentally fantasizing about what it symbolizes - a guy fucking them. They would probably be open or interested in trying gay sex if you weren't there. Just my opinion, just my guess.

    It's pushing the taboo towards gay sex, not prostate stimulation.

    Do I care no. Seems like a lot of people are more hung up on if they're gay than I am. I don't care, they may not be, they may be. Just seems more likely and the OP asked for everyone's opinion, not just those who consider alternative sex everyone's norm.

    I think BDSM and freaky sex is a cultural response in a way. Some feel the more taboo I can get the better and it means I'm more open and qualified to speak on this issue and call myself "sexual". I disagree, which is why I'm proud to embrace my vanilla ways (I could almost assume the current term vanilla is loaded too). As in bland. But I've had so many exciting experiences I don't feel the need to seek out more and more forms of mental stimulation. Sex with someone I'm into is always pleasure producing.

    It's absolutely different every single time.

    I've never had sex with gadgets or props (handcuffs, dilldoes, rings, feathers). If I tried I can see myself starting to laugh and toss them off the bed so I could get busy.

    It just seems like such a false or constructed form of sex to me. I'm too busy to play with that stuff. (All my opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittygirl View Post
    Maybe because you can pretend anything you want.

    Equally as much as a guy could pretend he's getting fucked up the ass by a guy, even if it's physically a girl.


    I think sex is mostly mental stimulation, so
    A) the need for physical doesn't mean quite as much to me (I can have as good of a time with clit or vaginal even if I don't always get off, as a lot of girls have said)
    B) since you guys are mostly shocked that we think guys wouldn't like ass stimulation it's not that, but without 20th century implements a girl can't really do that - dilldoes have been common in many cultures for centuries, the concept of women strapping one on maybe in Sade's bedroom - so I think it's impllicit it replicates a man doing the fucking

    This isn't to say I want to call it the "female" role, but it's highly likely dudes are mentally fantasizing about what it symbolizes - a guy fucking them. They would probably be open or interested in trying gay sex if you weren't there. Just my opinion, just my guess.

    It's pushing the taboo towards gay sex, not prostate stimulation.

    Do I care no. Seems like a lot of people are more hung up on if they're gay than I am. I don't care, they may not be, they may be. Just seems more likely and the OP asked for everyone's opinion, not just those who consider alternative sex everyone's norm.

    I think BDSM and freaky sex is a cultural response in a way. Some feel the more taboo I can get the better and it means I'm more open and qualified to speak on this issue and call myself "sexual". I disagree, which is why I'm proud to embrace my vanilla ways (I could almost assume the current term vanilla is loaded too). As in bland. But I've had so many exciting experiences I don't feel the need to seek out more and more forms of mental stimulation. Sex with someone I'm into is always pleasure producing.

    It's absolutely different every single time.

    I've never had sex with gadgets or props (handcuffs, dilldoes, rings, feathers). If I tried I can see myself starting to laugh and toss them off the bed so I could get busy.

    It just seems like such a false or constructed form of sex to me. I'm too busy to play with that stuff. (All my opinion)

    What she said, especially the bold parts.

    And I especially agree with her statement about how some of you seem so hung up on whether or not other people think you're gay, not gay, your boyfriend is gay or not gay...whatever. I don't care if your boyfriend likes you to fuck him in the ass with a strap-on or not, and I don't care if he's gay or not. If you're happy with your sex practices, why are you hung up on whether or not someone else thinks there might be gay tendencies around it?

    And also the part about "sexual superiority" with claims that one is more open-minded than someone else. I have no problem with other people sticking plastic in their boyfriends pooper...I'm not into that but whatever is good for you....but don't walk around doing your superior dance because you're into taking your man anally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMynxx View Post
    I'm like ...actually vaguely shocked at this thread! I saw it, read the OP, and was like "Pfft! No way. Men enjoying rear-end stimulation =/= gay."

    I really thought this one was a no-brained. I'm VERY sexually open-minded though, so maybe that's some of it. I am just SO lost as to how anyone could possibly think that just because a man enjoys prostate/anal stimulation he's "latently homosexual" or has any tendency that direction at all. Like ... really lost. That makes absolutely NO logical sense.

    I guess it's social conditioning. Gay man have the buttsex, so if a man enjoys anything buttsexish, he therefore must be the gay.

    It still makes no god damned sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's the strapon part. This is quite clear to me, I don't know about the rest of the guys out there.

    A guy getting anal stimulation, even with some sort of hand-held penis-shaped toy, is not the same as having someone physically adopting the semblance of male sex organs via strapping on a big dick, and using it on a guy, in exactly the same way a guy would do it.

    It might not be gay, strictly speaking--but the vast majority of men are going to take a pass on that, I imagine. For which you can hardly blame them, if women are to be allowed to eschew anal sex as well. Which of course is their right.
    I hear you. One of my exes liked his prostate stimulated with a finger or two, but was NOT down to get fucked with a strap on. I totally get you.

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    I've read this thread twice so far, and I'm still looking for the 'homophobic' posts that have apparently caused a few people here to cry and pass out!

    The only thing I find 'shocking' is the knee-jerk screams of 'homophobia' from people more interested in flaunting their 'open-mindedness' than making a coherent point.

    I bet if I started a thread about the execution of homosexuals in a Third World country it wouldn't get half the outrage we've already seen in this thread!....Actually, check that; there would be outrage, and it would be directed at me for failing to practice 'cultural sensitivity'.
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    i don't know...i think some guys, gay or straight, like ass play at times. i know i do. haha. but if they happen to be gay it's probably a coincidence...or liking ass play is not the main reason they would be gay. either way, i've always wanted to use a strap-on on a guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvette View Post
    i've always wanted to use a strap-on on a guy.
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    I just saw a thread called "sexual fantasies you've acted out".

    I don't mean to call Laurisa out for anything, but she did mention a boyfriend who wasn't willing to get rough.

    I respect that because who are alternative women to say a man should be willing or eager to enact a rape or force or abuse fantasy.

    I'm the kind of feminist that says that's bunk. It's trying to feel better about sexist status quo.

    Any man who would want to to do that probably does have a rape fantasy, how feminist is that? Only when anything any woman does is feminist.

    Same thing in my opinion with strap ons.

    It's easier to go along with BDSM, anal, strap on, and rape fantasies than tell your your boyfriend you're a feminist who's into equal sex. In my opinion.

    I feel it's a cop out. Most men aren't into such taboo stuff, they're just into women. (In my opinion)

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    "gay guys like taking it up the ass" vs "gay guys like having sex with men". One of this statements is a false assumption, the other is the correct answer. If a gay guy offered me a blow job and told me "just close your eyes and pretend im a girl" he would get a resounding NO, i assume most of the guys who think anyone can just pretend they are being fucked by someone of the other sex would be ok with it? If anything wanting to take it up the ass from a girl is more a sign of submissiveness than anything else, thats why it sounds completely unappealing to someone like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    "gay guys like taking it up the ass" vs "gay guys like having sex with men". One of this statements is a false assumption, the other is the correct answer. If a gay guy offered me a blow job and told me "just close your eyes and pretend im a girl" he would get a resounding NO, i assume most of the guys who think anyone can just pretend they are being fucked by someone of the other sex would be ok with it? If anything wanting to take it up the ass from a girl is more a sign of submissiveness than anything else, thats why it sounds completely unappealing to someone like me.
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    If the nswer to this question depends on any similarity to sexual acts performed by gays, then what is the difference between 'prostate' massage, strap-on sex, and blow jobs--since they are commonly done by gays.

    You gotta figure out what your motivations are for thinking of such comparisons.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    At this point, after all the input, I'm willing to say straight gay.

    I can't really see a difference. Ass fucking is ass fucking with or without a harness.

    I've come to have sexual feelings for my dilldo. In my mind it's very similar.

    Even my gay boyfriend found guys to do it.

    This is a very scared gay man. Why, it's the 21st century.

    Hate my opinions, but they are mine. And I'm glad no guy is asking me to fuck him up the ass. And, PS my gay friends would call him out as gay faster than I would. With relish. And then ask to do him.

    I would feel "emasculated" to participate in this kind of show. But I think nowadays, many women would rather feel that than believe the world is sexist. Hence the open appreciation of rape fantasies, submission, and gay sex.

    It all blends into one. Totally disconnected sex for what purpose - prostate massage? OK whatever.
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    I think this needs further study. I think it is imperative that we enlist lingerie-clad Jessica Alba and Miranda Kerr to alternate turns sticking a strap-on up my butt. Afterwards I will report on the level of "gayness."
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    Is that the first thing you want to do with them?

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