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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    You can get an erection and have an orgasm doing practically anything.
    I am probably the horniest man on Earth, but I don't go around fucking inanimate objects. If I don't have a willing female to play with me, I masturbate. I have heard of guys using inanimate objects and little dogs, but I thought those were just urban legends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    given enough porn i could hump the shit out of a pillow until i came. That doesn't make me a pillowphiliac because i'm not actually ATTRACTED to pillows, i just happened to use one to get off.
    If you make it a habit of humping the shit out of a pillow, I'd say you do have a thing for pillows - not that you want to buy a ring for a pillow, but that you really like getting off with one.

    We're talking about sex, not attraction. I've had sex with a few women that I was not attracted to - its not a requirement.

    This "attraction" factor is just another technicality to avoid the stigma of homosexuality. It allows a "straight" guy to experiment with homosexuality, but as long as he is not "attracted" to other men, he can claim to be "straight".

    Would buy this line - "I'm not gay, I just use gay guys to get me off, but I'm not attracted to them." or "I'm not gay, but I prefer blowjobs from gay guys because they understand the equipment better, but I'm not attracted to them."

    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    That is also true for most guys INSIDE of prison, its not a giant gay fuck orgy in there no matter what TV shows tell you.
    I've never been in prison, but I've talked to people who have, and they say it is very much like that when the lights go out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    So if a lesbian woman gets raped by a guy and happens to get off (yes, sometimes women have been known to get off during rape. not because they like it) then she must be bi or latently straight?
    I'm not a doctor, so I don't understand this phenomenon. But, I know that every time I've gotten off, I was doing something very pleasurable to me - even if I was not attracted to the girl I was with and regretted it later.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    Hell, people can get off from all sorts of things, even things that in their heads are disgusting.
    Those "disgusting" things in your head are fantasies and fetishes. You do not need to feel ashamed of them. For example, rape fantasies are very common and it does not mean that you really want to be raped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I'm not a doctor, so I don't understand this phenomenon. But, I know that every time I've gotten off, I was doing something very pleasurable to me - even if I was not attracted to the girl I was with and regretted it later.
    WHOA. Dude, think about what you just said. I'm sure you don't really mean that women who experience an orgasm during rape actually are attracted to their rapists and are thoroughly enjoying the experience. Because that's fucking bullshit.

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    ^^^ No, of course I didn't say that.

    I said that I'm not a doctor, and therefore, I don't know why it happens (i.e., why a woman would orgasm during brutal victimization). I'm sure there is a medical explanation for that. Maybe the intense panic and trauma causes wires to cross. It's a very extreme situation, so the response is not normal.

    In normal mode, you orgasm when you are experiencing something pleasurable, it doesn't just happen by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I've never shoved anything up my butt out of the fear that I may like it.
    This. is. gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^^ Necessity? If a guy gets off (i.e., erection and orgasm) having sex with another guy, he is either gay or bi - end of story. There can be a hundred excuses for it - money, promotion, incarceration, three months on a boat with no women, etc... These are just ways to get around the social programming that stigmatizes homosexuality. (On the other hand, if a "straight" porn actor participates in gay sex for money, but does have an orgasm or even get an erection, then I grant you the point that he is not really gay or bi.)

    Regarding prison - most guys outside prison, if they cannot get laid by a girl - either because they have no social skills or are ugly as shit - would resort to masturbation and would never consider turning to man ass. The difference is that in prison everybody does it and it becomes normal and socially acceptable. (Being on the receiving end might be shameful, but using a dude ass, is perfectly acceptable in prison.) Again, I cite Tony Soprano, who said - "You get a pass for that." "Necessity" is just the pretext that allows prison inmates to resort to a "queer" act and turn it into a socially acceptable practice. Because you get that "pass", you can have all the homosexual sex you want without any of the stigma.

    Again, most "straight" guys outside prison who can't score with a woman would rather jerk off a million times, than resort to man ass,... unless they live somewhere where this practice is common and socially acceptable, like San Francisco.
    Your theory doesn't allow for any personality development. What if (as is EXTREMELY common), a guy fools around with another guy at a younger age as part of self exploration? Does that make him gay/bi? The vast majority of guys I've met have had experiences like this (and many of them had repressed these experiences). And that's just one example! Don't people change?

    Why are you assuming people are stagnant forms instead of developing minds?

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    I think you need to learn to adopt a more fluid view of sexuality, Jacko. Especially if you personally have no experience with how easily it can change. As you said, you aren't a doctor and so can't explain why some women come during rape; similarly, you are too sexually rigid to make judgments for other people.

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    The way this thread is heading it seems all men on the planet are now gay because they use a man's hand to masturbate!
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    omg, why is it so huge?!! lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Your theory doesn't allow for any personality development. What if (as is EXTREMELY common), a guy fools around with another guy at a younger age as part of self exploration? Does that make him gay/bi? The vast majority of guys I've met have had experiences like this (and many of them had repressed these experiences). And that's just one example! Don't people change?

    Why are you assuming people are stagnant forms instead of developing minds?
    To the contrary, my theory is that most "straight" people are or can become bi-sexual. I don't understand why this ruffles so many feathers unless these people consider bi-sexuality an evil or sickness. And bi-sexuality doesn't mean you are having sex with both genders all the time. If a guy like girls, but enjoyed having sex with a guy one time, I think he's bi.

    Also, I am using "bi" broadly to mean that you can get off with either male or female. I'm not talking about romantic interest. A guy who is married to a woman and loves her exclusively, but has sex with guys on the side is "bi", even if he has no attraction whatsoever for the guys and does it purely to get off sexually.

    Back to the OP - If a guy get's off with a girl + strap on, chances are he will also get off with a dude, they are functionally equivalent. I agree with Djoser and Pretty Penny:

    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    While I wouldn't quite call a guy who wants to get fucked up the ass doggy style with a 10" dildo gay, if he wants a girl to do it, I would bet he'd be a lot more inclined to try a guy if he hit a lonely spell, lol. But so what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    I say me and my bf come over and hide in your bedroom closet. Then you blindfold your bf and start doing the strap on deal... at which point which switch my boyfriend in for the strap on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    You can get an erection and have an orgasm doing practically anything. given enough porn i could hump the shit out of a pillow until i came. That doesn't make me a pillowphiliac because i'm not actually ATTRACTED to pillows, i just happened to use one to get off.
    Oh wow!! I have this overstuffed red satin pillow that I put on my bed ... strap a dildo on it ... and then fuck myself in the ass with the pillow/dildo. Sometimes the other pillows seem jealous, but I don't care ... I luv me some red satin pillow.


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    ^ Really? You've never heard of guys fucking pillows as a form of masturbation?

    Have you people been living under rocks since the dawn of the 21st century???

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ Really? You've never heard of guys fucking pillows as a form of masturbation?

    Have you people been living under rocks since the dawn of the 21st century???
    Was this pointing at me?

    Uh, yes I've heard of that. Young men an boys will rub themselves up against pretty much anything that feels good, including other young men and boys (Gasp) (Doesn't necessarily make them gay or bi by the way IMO ) Yes that was common knowledge even when I was young long long ago.

    I was simply making an apparently unclear joke about the whole does a strap on make guys gay thing. Which by the way I don't think it does. On the other hand; houseplants, Streisand tunes, and antiquing ... so gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post

    Back to the OP - If a guy get's off with a girl + strap on, chances are he will also get off with a dude, they are functionally equivalent. I agree with Djoser and Pretty Penny:
    Ok, so I'm trying to understand ... is it just the shape and appearance of the dildo that makes the guy gay? Is it because it is strapped onto the woman in the traditional male penis area?

    What if the woman just uses the dildo by hand and doesn't "strap" hmmm

    What about a woman's fingers, fists or feet and/or toes ... are they ok?

    What if a more manly implement like the handle of a screw driver or a maglight flashlight? Stick shift handle of a 67 GTO?
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    Wait, what's the ruling on two guys using fake vagina sex toys with each other? I'd actually go with kinda gay there, but it sounds like it's totally straight?
    Quote Originally Posted by _Avery_ View Post
    omg, why is it so huge?!! lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1 View Post
    Wait, what's the ruling on two guys using fake vagina sex toys with each other? I'd actually go with kinda gay there, but it sounds like it's totally straight?
    LOL ... It's ok as long as they don't make eye contact



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    Mortalman, I think I love you. Your sarcasm rivals mine.
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    You can say that again.. not just on here but men in general. Guys are so damn lame, the only way they can halfway make up for it is by opening their wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortalman View Post
    Ok, so I'm trying to understand ... is it just the shape and appearance of the dildo that makes the guy gay? Is it because it is strapped onto the woman in the traditional male penis area?

    What if the woman just uses the dildo by hand and doesn't "strap" hmmm

    What about a woman's fingers, fists or feet and/or toes ... are they ok?

    What if a more manly implement like the handle of a screw driver or a maglight flashlight? Stick shift handle of a 67 GTO?
    Okay, here's the Pretty Penny test:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    I say me and my bf come over and hide in your bedroom closet. Then you blindfold your bf and start doing the strap on deal... at which point which switch my boyfriend in for the strap on.
    If in the dark, you can replace the dildo, strap-on,... whatever,... for a real dude, without noticing the difference,... and you get off,... I say you're potentially gay or bi...

    There is too much obsession with the question - Does that make me/him gay? -- Maybe not gay, but it does make you/him potentially bi.

    I think we've beaten this thing to death, so I'll end my comments here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Mortalman, I think I love you. Your sarcasm rivals mine.
    A beautiful woman has fallen in love with me in the strap on thread

    Wait a sec ... uhhh ... thanks???



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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Okay, here's the Pretty Penny test:



    If in the dark, you can replace the dildo, strap-on,... whatever,... for a real dude, without noticing the difference,... and you get off,... I say you're potentially gay or bi...

    There is too much obsession with the question - Does that make me/him gay? -- Maybe not gay, but it does make you/him potentially bi.

    I think we've beaten this thing to death, so I'll end my comments here.
    No we must continue:

    If you replace the dildo with a man and notice the difference but still enjoy it then I would agree that the subject may in fact be classified as gay or bisexual.

    However:
    If the subject does not notice the difference (between a dildo and actual real human penis) he may be a total idiot or unconscious. We would need additional data to determine his sexual preference.



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    I would rather a guy give me a blow job while I am wearing a strap on than fuck him up the ass.
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    Um, what I said had nothing to do with me saying it was the same thing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1 View Post
    The way this thread is heading it seems all men on the planet are now gay because they use a man's hand to masturbate!
    lmao

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    I'm not going to judge a guy who wants to get fucked with a strapon one way or another, but if a woman came near me with one of those, I'd be telling her to get it the hell away from me.

    It's a woman assuming the male anatomy and posture when fucking, which I am not ashamed to say grosses me the fuck out if I think about someone trying to do it to me.

    I don't know for sure, but I would be willing to bet there are very few straight men who would want to get fucked that way. Again, doesn't mean a guy who does is gay. Of course a gay man would probably have no interest whatsoever in a woman with a strapon, either. So what does that tell us?

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    ^ Wrong! It's relatively common for open-minded straight men to enjoy prostate play. Check out the Bend Over Boyfriend phenomenon.

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    It's not the prostrate massage that's gross at all! It's the woman assuming the anatomy and posture of the guy fucking that's the real turnoff. Big difference to me, and I suspect most other men.
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