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    Quote Originally Posted by Clare View Post
    I think escorting is alot about presentation. I'm average looking, chunky and in desperate need of some Botox right now, but because I feel I am worth $500 an hour, I get $500 an hour. Plus 3 hour minimums.

    Men truly want what they can't have, what's exclusive.

    It's all marketing. Be confident and don't work for less than you feel you should.
    Yes ma'am!

    How do I get customers? Hmm let see ..Pictures= I had my photographer take some really HOT pics of me (Fully clothed) Networking= I interact on forums (SGFE, Sweet dixie and theotherboard (love it) Advertising= I advertise on eros, city vibe and date-check and some free advertising like on sexyescortads.com.

    Do I advertise on craigslist? No. backpage? NO. Why? Because to me they're tacky and really ghetto. There are girls in my area (I'm talking beautiful blonde girls) charging $200 an hour and I get twice as much..
    why? Aside from branding myself VIP It's the way I present myself You will not find naked pics of me anywhere on my escort site/ads or forum posts and when I do decide to post naked pics of myself anywhere on my site it'll be password protected OR I'll make it where they'd have to pay to see it.

    Did I start making money overnight? NO. It takes time maybe 2-3 weeks to start getting appointments. At least it did for me. There are not alot of quality providers in my area so guys were afraid of what could happen if they took a chance on a new girl (ex: Upselling, bait and switch, walking into a sting) They want you to have a couple of reviews though
    there are some clients that don't give a shit about reviews. My first review was on bigdogge.net ... it was SO GOOOOD.. The next thing I know, My email was flooded with guys wanting to see me.. Reviews can make or break you. I don't have one bad review.. haha duhh

    So .. sure you can post an ad on craigslist or backpage but you gotta ask yourself "Do I just want to make a couple of dollars OR Do I want to build a business" If you search my work name(I use a different name escorting) You'll see a merchant circle profile, my site, a linkedln profile, a yellow pages ad, a eros ad, a city vibe ad, posts on forums I've made. It's not something I did overnight. Having worked with an agency I met some AMAZING guys and I wanted to keep meeting the same type of men that's why I took this route and I meet the coolest men.. ha! Being an Independent escort, the men are SO into you and want to see YOU and if you approve their appointment they get to see YOU. With the agency they could request a certain girl and the agency send them any girl thats available (Trust me I know it happened to me). Glad I made this move.
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    Malaya, thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience. A question.. do you create a pseudo identity of sorts, involving life experiences, when you talk with your clients? I'd love to get into the escorting business but as a 22 year old undergrad I don't see what else a potential client would find so intriguing about me other than my looks and my skills, maybe my opinions, if you know what I mean. How much of your time with them is usually spent on conversation about "real life" vs. maybe your world views or interests? Also are the agencies concerned with your background and achievements as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadelady View Post
    Malaya, thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience. A question.. do you create a pseudo identity of sorts, involving life experiences, when you talk with your clients? I'd love to get into the escorting business but as a 22 year old undergrad I don't see what else a potential client would find so intriguing about me other than my looks and my skills, maybe my opinions, if you know what I mean. How much of your time with them is usually spent on conversation about "real life" vs. maybe your world views or interests? Also are the agencies concerned with your background and achievements as well?
    Hope this answers your question but I'm 20 and the only thing I madeup was my name and where I'm from. Where I'm from because I don't want a client saying "Oh I have a nigerian friend that would love to meet you" my response would be "HELLLL NO" lol! Ya know? I do not want to meet any nigerians while escorting EVER! I tend to talk alot and luckily for me the type of clients I attract are ok with that. I talk alot about my friends/family/interests and school.. they like that. I also ask questions about HIM/his job/ .. sometimes his wife and make jokes and laugh. They don't want you to be all about business.. (ex: get money/get down to business) They want a GFE experience and that's what I am.

    I have a blog on my site and it suprises me each and everytime how many guys actually READ it. It's all about making a good impression. It starts with your pictures.. then he'll contact you. Alot of clients make their descision off of you pictures. It's really about the client.

    Lol if you find an agency that gives a shit about your background let me know..

    quick story: There was one day I had an appointment with this guy. He seemed really nice and he looked VERY familiar. I was trying to figure out who he was. He looked like someone I had seen on tv or online somewhere. I realized who he was (owner of a HUGE real estate company) I check his id, got my hourly fee, gave him a back massage and asked him "Are you married?" He said "Yeah I'll show you a picture" I was like "Oh .. oK".. he gets up and heads over to the dresser and picks up his digital camera and showed me his wife's picture. She was GORGEOUS(looked like she was about my age..he's twice my age btw).. but I didn't want to say she was gorgeous SO I said "Oh she's VERY pretty" he says "She is, isn't she I know I shouldn't be doing this" I'm like "It's ok you're in good hands" he starts freaking out and is like "No no I can't do this You're beautiful but so is my wife I've never had a black woman before I'm going about it the wrong way" I'm like "That's fine honey, I'll leave now" ... I literally ran for my car.. dude was wiggin out. I kept the money and everything.. ha! You just never know when you'll run into one of those.. dude put me in a really awkward situation..

    After this happened, I hardly ever bring the word "wife" up during an appointment. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Hope this answers your question but I'm 20 and the only thing I madeup was my name and where I'm from. Where I'm from because I don't want a client saying "Oh I have a nigerian friend that would love to meet you" my response would be "HELLLL NO" lol! Ya know? I do not want to meet any nigerians while escorting EVER! I tend to talk alot and luckily for me the type of clients I attract are ok with that. I talk alot about my friends/family/interests and school.. they like that. I also ask questions about HIM/his job/ .. sometimes his wife and make jokes and laugh. They don't want you to be all about business.. (ex: get money/get down to business) They want a GFE experience and that's what I am.

    I have a blog on my site and it suprises me each and everytime how many guys actually READ it. It's all about making a good impression. It starts with your pictures.. then he'll contact you. Alot of clients make their descision off of you pictures. It's really about the client.

    Lol if you find an agency that gives a shit about your background let me know..

    quick story: There was one day I had an appointment with this guy. He seemed really nice and he looked VERY familiar. I was trying to figure out who he was. He looked like someone I had seen on tv or online somewhere. I realized who he was (owner of a HUGE real estate company) I check his id, got my hourly fee, gave him a back massage and asked him "Are you married?" He said "Yeah I'll show you a picture" I was like "Oh .. oK".. he gets up and heads over to the dresser and picks up his digital camera and showed me his wife's picture. She was GORGEOUS(looked like she was about my age..he's twice my age btw).. but I didn't want to say she was gorgeous SO I said "Oh she's VERY pretty" he says "She is, isn't she I know I shouldn't be doing this" I'm like "It's ok you're in good hands" he starts freaking out and is like "No no I can't do this You're beautiful but so is my wife I've never had a black woman before I'm going about it the wrong way" I'm like "That's fine honey, I'll leave now" ... I literally ran for my car.. dude was wiggin out. I kept the money and everything.. ha! You just never know when you'll run into one of those.. dude put me in a really awkward situation..

    After this happened, I hardly ever bring the word "wife" up during an appointment. lol

    Lol, yes, NEVER bring up wife! I made that mistake ONCE with a once a week regular. He was a guarenteed 2K a week and I blew it by after we'd gotten comfie by .... DRUMROLL..... suggesting how he could get his wife to try this technique I do that he loves!!!

    I made him uncomfortable by 1. reminding him he's cheating 2. suggesting his wife was boring 3. giving him a tip to use with the love of his life 4. bringing up the mother of his children PERIOD right after an XXX encounter.

    <sigh> So now I know, never bring up the wife. And if he does, I steer the conversation elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clare View Post
    Lol, yes, NEVER bring up wife! I made that mistake ONCE with a once a week regular. He was a guarenteed 2K a week and I blew it by after we'd gotten comfie by .... DRUMROLL..... suggesting how he could get his wife to try this technique I do that he loves!!!

    I made him uncomfortable by 1. reminding him he's cheating 2. suggesting his wife was boring 3. giving him a tip to use with the love of his life 4. bringing up the mother of his children PERIOD right after an XXX encounter.

    <sigh> So now I know, never bring up the wife. And if he does, I steer the conversation elsewhere.
    So true!!!!!! No wonder, He literally rushed me out of his place. He didn't give a shit about the money he gave me at all.. Oh well. I felt bad but didn't sweat it too much cuz I got PAID. Will definetely remember this next time Clare .

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    Well I'm glad you got outta there in time! Thanks for sharing.. I was curious about how much they are interested in who you are and I think that's great they read your blog. I've been compiling my research on indie camming and now escorting, trying to get prepared to launch my own business very soon. I am forever thankful for your insight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadelady View Post
    Well I'm glad you got outta there in time! Thanks for sharing.. I was curious about how much they are interested in who you are and I think that's great they read your blog. I've been compiling my research on indie camming and now escorting, trying to get prepared to launch my own business very soon. I am forever thankful for your insight!
    Good luck!!! Indie camming/escorting.. same here.. LOVE IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Good luck!!! Indie camming/escorting.. same here.. LOVE IT!
    Thank you!! May you continue to have success It's time for me to take control of my life and move in a positive direction.. no more wasting time! I'll let you know when I get things off the ground and running.

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    Good luck with it all jadelady!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clare View Post
    Lol, yes, NEVER bring up wife! I made that mistake ONCE with a once a week regular. He was a guarenteed 2K a week and I blew it by after we'd gotten comfie by .... DRUMROLL..... suggesting how he could get his wife to try this technique I do that he loves!!!

    I made him uncomfortable by 1. reminding him he's cheating 2. suggesting his wife was boring 3. giving him a tip to use with the love of his life 4. bringing up the mother of his children PERIOD right after an XXX encounter.

    <sigh> So now I know, never bring up the wife. And if he does, I steer the conversation elsewhere.
    all those reasons and why would you want his wife pleasing him? isn't that your job, literally?
    that was nice of you though. i can't say i'd be so willing to part with my money if my SD's wife did try new things sexually based on my suggestion and then he was happy enough with the sex to not need to see me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    all those reasons and why would you want his wife pleasing him? isn't that your job, literally?
    that was nice of you though. i can't say i'd be so willing to part with my money if my SD's wife did try new things sexually based on my suggestion and then he was happy enough with the sex to not need to see me anymore.
    They always come back lol seriously... even if their wife is fucking them. There is plenty of money to go around in this business...That's why it's called a "hobby". I'm sure my clients see other women.. I really don't care as long as I protect myself and get my $$$$$$

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    You're gonna have to write a "secrets to my success" blog or something. Seriously, because most of the girls I know are struggling to get $250/hour. And we are talking beautiful, educated ladies who just two years ago commanded $600/hour with a 2 hour minimum and were booked solid.

    Especially getting 450 from a Houstonite. Texas men are notoriously cheap (hell, you can get an hour for 150 in Dallas all day long).
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    I will second that. Texas men are seriously cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixiepower329 View Post
    You're gonna have to write a "secrets to my success" blog or something. Seriously, because most of the girls I know are struggling to get $250/hour. And we are talking beautiful, educated ladies who just two years ago commanded $600/hour with a 2 hour minimum and were booked solid.

    Especially getting 450 from a Houstonite. Texas men are notoriously cheap (hell, you can get an hour for 150 in Dallas all day long).
    What? houston men are cheap? Had a client from houston 2 weeks ago and he paid me 450 for 1 1/2 plus 80 tip. He was a sweet man and you could tell he was LOADED. He also writes me all the time to keep me updated on the latest busts in houston.. very generous man.

    Honestly I don't know how they're struggling to make $250 unless they're ...well no comment.. looks and personality matters alot in this business. When I was at the agency they advertised me at $400hr and I was ALWAYS busy...(would give them $200 of my money of course) but the men would pay the $400 to see me. So it's never been hard for me to make money in this industry. Yes I've had slow times but I've never had a bad month.. yet *knock on wood*

    It really depends on the girl. I don't know how else to put it. Some girls jump into it knowledgeable and some jump into it clueless.. and get fucked over.. it's a game of smarts.

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    They probably paid you more because they know it's the norm in that area. When I was in Chicago, men paid much better. But they don't in Texas. There is also a higher standard of living up north. Texas is overwhelmed with GFE women who will do anything for $150 and there is a lower standard of living here. I also noticed that years ago when ASPD and CL got popular on the scene, rates began to drop due to desperate women who did not know better. They drove rates down. We also have ALOT of women from South America, Asia, and Mexico here driving the rates down. Repeat - ALOT from South America, Mexico and I know that Houston was swarming in Asians.

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    Also, Houston was the titty bar capitol of the world and you had to compete with the fact that men knew that they could go in a bar and get extras for dirt cheap at the drop of a hat, no screening or appt. required. Makes a big difference when you try to work in extras ridden titty bar central.

    We used to refer to Treasures as the whore house warehouse!

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    One more thing, it's only a few hours drive here for men to go South of the Border and get what they want, REAL CHEAP. It's very competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    They probably paid you more because they know it's the norm in that area. When I was in Chicago, men paid much better. But they don't in Texas. There is also a higher standard of living up north. Texas is overwhelmed with GFE women who will do anything for $150 and there is a lower standard of living here. I also noticed that years ago when ASPD and CL got popular on the scene, rates began to drop due to desperate women who did not know better. They drove rates down. We also have ALOT of women from South America, Asia, and Mexico here driving the rates down. Repeat - ALOT from South America, Mexico and I know that Houston was swarming in Asians.
    The norm in my area is $250an hour/$300an hour. Upscale/VIP providers charge a little more but the problem is... there are not many quality VIP providers here in Charlotte, nc.. not to mention the lack of quality ebony providers. One of my clients told me about an ebony provider he saw and that didn't have air condition at her incall .... men tend to think when it's one way with one provider it'll be the same way with all. I charge what I charge because I feel like I'm worth it damn it.. I provide refreshments for my clients, sometimes I bake for them .. If it's cold I'll make some coffee.. I want them to enjoy the experience of being with me..You and I both know escorting is not all about sex. There is one gorgeous brazillian girl in my area that advertises on eros allll the time for $175 an hour.. everytime I see her ad I'm thinking "dammnit YOu could be banking girl".

    If I were to do FBSM yes I'd charge 150 for 30 minutes and $200 for the hour why? because I've worked at a "jack shack" aka massage parlor and that's what I was getting paid. I just couldn't do FS at that rate.. imagine the traffic! Hex nah. Great point Lilmisssunshine.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Also, Houston was the titty bar capitol of the world and you had to compete with the fact that men knew that they could go in a bar and get extras for dirt cheap at the drop of a hat, no screening or appt. required. Makes a big difference when you try to work in extras ridden titty bar central.

    We used to refer to Treasures as the whore house warehouse!
    Ugh Ugh Ugh there is a club here called the carousel. I swear you could go in there and get just about anything you want for $100. It's just extras galore there.. Silly girls! You know what you'd be suprised at the escorts that dont' screen their clients. I'm too damn paranoid to not screen.

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    $150! Are these girls crazy? That is so sad. A streetwalker here in Sydney probably charges that. I know a couple girls in the industry and the low end is $250-$350, middle $350-$450, low high end $450-$500, High end is $500-$1200. If a chick has been in playboy, educated and offers a good service she can ask for $1200+. One of my friends made $300,000 in the last 6 months and she's not even top end. It's decriminalized here though so business in booming from what I hear. Especially from visiting internationals. You are even allowed to streetwalk in NSW as long as its not in front of a school, church or place of dwelling. LOL.

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    Well there ARE women here charging $300 and $400 an hour. But there are not alot of em compared to the amount of cheap women here. I also wonder if the women charging upwards of $400 here are seeing that many clients. No matter, one $400 client equals more than 2 $150 clients. Anyway, it breaks my heart to see women put out for that little. Especially when I read the reviews on the Asian places in Texas where men where getting everything and then some for chump change. And part of that chump change was going to the house.

    I used to work in a modeling studio in Houston. It was $160 for a HALF hour FBSM. There was an Asian parlor next door that charged $150 for a FULL hour FS. The girls only got $90 of that. Bleh...

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    ^That's true. There are definitely asian places here that charge much less. I hope those girls are happy where they are and not being forced or mislead. I'm guessing they probably are tho

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    Yea, that place actually got shut down for human trafficking. The owners were on the news one night and I was like WTF! However, I have a hard time believing those women were being held against their will cause they would come over and talk to us and seemed perfectly happy. They never once said "OMG, help us! We don't wanna be here!"

    Weird.

    I think it's kinda how people think pimps force prostitutes on the streets. But the prostitutes love their pimps and wouldn't have it any other way.

    I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Well there ARE women here charging $300 and $400 an hour. But there are not alot of em compared to the amount of cheap women here. I also wonder if the women charging upwards of $400 here are seeing that many clients. No matter, one $400 client equals more than 2 $150 clients. Anyway, it breaks my heart to see women put out for that little. Especially when I read the reviews on the Asian places in Texas where men where getting everything and then some for chump change. And part of that chump change was going to the house.

    I used to work in a modeling studio in Houston. It was $160 for a HALF hour FBSM. There was an Asian parlor next door that charged $150 for a FULL hour FS. The girls only got $90 of that. Bleh...
    Yes but it's very individualized though. Maybe I'm not seeing as many people as the $150an hour girls are seeing but Im definetely gettting longer appointments. I had an appointment yesterday for 4 hours ($1100 plus $60 tip) He sent me $500 via western union as a deposit and I drove all the way to columbia, sc to meet him(If you look on my site you'll see that I require a deposit if they live outside of the charlotte/concord area). When I got there he gave me $100 for gas ontop of the additional $500 to complete my honorarium so there is definetely money out there.

    About FBSM- I worked for a hispanic woman in a sleazy apartment complex and banked. We'd give her $50 everytime we had an appointment and keep our tips. The money was damn good I mean hell I wasn't fucking anyone and was making between 1500-2k a week which was not bad at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake635 View Post
    these girls that are traffic'd are told that if they escape their family will be killed, so they are definitly held against their will.
    Yep, they're threatened that if they try to escape, their families will be killed. Likely their employer has their passport and most of their money, too. Human trafficking is very real, and the victims really are held against their will, even if they put up with it for years. They are usually promised freedom after they did their time, so most would rather try to get through it than face deportation or possible murder of themselves or their family.

    Also they're typically shamed that their family would find out what they were doing to make their money, so facing the possibility of being disowned as well.

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    Just sayin', they didn't seem unhappy at all. I dunno.

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