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    Yes it is very rare to actually catch something from a BBBJ. Yes I've been told I wouldn't "make it" in this business not giving bbbjs.. I've also been told I wouldn't make it in this business being black charging $400 an hour and up, That I'd have to lower my rate to $175an hour. Interesting... because most of my clients are white and paying BIG just to hang out/sleep with/whatever with my sexxxxy black ass! If you don't have a lot of confidence in this business others will eat you up and spit you out

    You know what? People are funny just because something dosen't work for them.. they think it won't work for you. I can't stand that shit..it urks the hell out of me.

    Yes Pussy is Pussy... but I KNOW my Pussy is better, Yes sir and Yes ma'am!

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    I'm working on a whole new business. I'll be just as successful at it as I am now working as an escort. It's a game of smarts. Just like it's a game of smarts with camming, dancing and every other job in the industry. There are camgirls complaning to make $300 an hour a day but then you have ember reigns that makes $700 in 2-3 hours and tierra that gets $600-$800 for her worn underwear...and it's hard for some ASPs to make $250 an HOUR?..c'mon now think about it. Providers here call me alllllll the time to ask me simple business questions and I'm thinking "wtf?" First of all, I don't like anyone calling me out of the blue because I'm that paranoid. I just started a few couple of months ago....says alot eh?

    There are GORGEOUS black girls here charging $100 an hour, $150 an hour for full service.. they Allow greek and everything else. I'm not going to be that girl. I'm sure their clients love them... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Yes it is very rare to actually catch something from a BBBJ. Yes I've been told I wouldn't "make it" in this business not giving bbbjs.. I've also been told I wouldn't make it in this business being black charging $400 an hour and up, That I'd have to lower my rate to $175an hour. Interesting... because most of my clients are white and paying BIG just to hang out/sleep with/whatever with my sexxxxy black ass! If you don't have a lot of confidence in this business others will eat you up and spit you out

    You know what? People are funny just because something dosen't work for them.. they think it won't work for you. I can't stand that shit..it urks the hell out of me.

    Yes Pussy is Pussy... but I KNOW my Pussy is better, Yes sir and Yes ma'am!

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    I'm working on a whole new business. I'll be just as successful at it as I am now working as an escort. It's a game of smarts. Just like it's a game of smarts with camming, dancing and every other job in the industry. There are camgirls complaning to make $300 an hour a day but then you have ember reigns that makes $700 in 2-3 hours and tierra that gets $600-$800 for her worn underwear...and it's hard for some ASPs to make $250 an HOUR?..c'mon now think about it. Providers here call me alllllll the time to ask me simple business questions and I'm thinking "wtf?" First of all, I don't like anyone calling me out of the blue because I'm that paranoid. I just started a few couple of months ago....says alot eh?

    There are GORGEOUS black girls here charging $100 an hour, $150 an hour for full service.. they Allow greek and everything else. I'm not going to be that girl. I'm sure their clients love them... lol
    I personally think that with the very slight but very real chance of catching something, girls who escort for $150 an hour are idiots. I know they're out there but come on.

    When I started out, I charged $200 an hour and worried about making every guy HAPPY, ie, if he wanted bbbjcim I said yes, I would grin and bear the typical rough DATY men think since they see it on porns it must make us cum, etc.

    I only did that about a month when I decided if I'm risking my health I better be making much more money so I raised my rates to $500 an hour, 3 hour minimum. This allows me to drasticaly cut down the number of men I see, have better appointments and feel more connected to my clients. The caliber of clients is vastly improved, very respectful, not vulgar, don't want to "just get off", and they tip way, way more.

    I also decided to say no more such as no BBBJCIM ever, a guy better be super gentle to touch my kitty, no rapid pounding away at me (Yes, it sounds crude to say this stuff but as escorts this is just what we do) for more than a reasonable amount of time, etc.

    Men seriously treat you better when you treat yourself better. If I had to do this work at $150 an hour, I'd rather wait tables. It's just not worth it to me plus at that rate I don't think I'd like the clients who could afford me as much, if at all. Sorry to sound snotty lol.

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    I personally think that with the very slight but very real chance of catching something, girls who escort for $150 an hour are idiots. I know they're out there but come on.

    When I started out, I charged $200 an hour and worried about making every guy HAPPY, ie, if he wanted bbbjcim I said yes, I would grin and bear the typical rough DATY men think since they see it on porns it must make us cum, etc.

    I only did that about a month when I decided if I'm risking my health I better be making much more money so I raised my rates to $500 an hour, 3 hour minimum. This allows me to drasticaly cut down the number of men I see, have better appointments and feel more connected to my clients. The caliber of clients is vastly improved, very respectful, not vulgar, don't want to "just get off", and they tip way, way more.

    I also decided to say no more such as no BBBJCIM ever, a guy better be super gentle to touch my kitty, no rapid pounding away at me (Yes, it sounds crude to say this stuff but as escorts this is just what we do) for more than a reasonable amount of time, etc.

    Men seriously treat you better when you treat yourself better. If I had to do this work at $150 an hour, I'd rather wait tables. It's just not worth it to me plus at that rate I don't think I'd like the clients who could afford me as much, if at all. Sorry to sound snotty lol.
    WELL SAID!!!! lol @ sorry to sound snotty.. I feel ya girl. Took the words right out of my mouth!

    Men seriously treat you better when you treat yourself better.
    Lots of women don't realize this! Sooo true! All the men I've seen have been soo sweet and tip very well. This is one of the reasons I book via email only. You kinda get a feel of the person's personality that way. I haven't had to report anyone to Provider buzz.... yet LOL! Thank goodness!

    I had one client from NY that tried to go the rough DATY route and I stopped him and told him "That's not I like it .. I like it slow and soft like this..." and I directed him. I feel this is My business you're not going to bounce me around like some rag doll.

    The caliber of clients is vastly improved, very respectful, not vulgar, don't want to "just get off", and they tip way, way more.
    Very true! I noticed that I get bigger tips now than when I was with the agency. I have no idea why but it's funny because my rates are way higher.

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    "GFE" as the term is normally used includes both kissing and BBBJs. What's the point of even calling it GFE if there its only CBJs? Spending $6,000 for that is bullshit, probably some old fool who doesn't know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    "GFE" as the term is normally used includes both kissing and BBBJs. What's the point of even calling it GFE if there its only CBJs? Spending $6,000 for that is bullshit, probably some old fool who doesn't know any better.
    That's not the case in my area. For you to say it's bullshit for someone to spend 6k for an sd/sb arrangement on me for a week is very disrespectful. I think it's very reasonable. Only broke men talk like that lol. Some people have money to blow some don't. Oh well.. I'm happy and that's all that matters and Yes he's Old but not an "Old fool". I guess that guy from SC that spent 3500 on me for an overnight is an "Old fool" too because he didn't a bbbj.. Ugh please. GFE means kissing.. simple.. I know to some it means bbbjs but not to all.. take it or leave it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    "GFE" as the term is normally used includes both kissing and BBBJs. What's the point of even calling it GFE if there its only CBJs? Spending $6,000 for that is bullshit, probably some old fool who doesn't know any better.
    Or someone who just makes a hell of a lot more money than you and has respect for the safety of himself and others.

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    spending $6000 of ANY chick w/o BBBJ is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    spending $6000 of ANY chick w/o BBBJ is bullshit.
    Sorry you feel that way. You're not paying me to argue with you. I know ASPs that get way more than 6k for a week and don't do bbbj's .. I guess that's bullshit too. Please do your research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    spending $6000 of ANY chick w/o BBBJ is bullshit.
    that's you dude. many guys would feel much more comfortable kissing a prostitute knowing that her mouth hasn't been on lots of random cocks for a few thousand bucks.
    and to me, i think GFE is also about how you interact with the client. a "true GFE" is not just about the sex but also fun conversation and the idea that both parties care about the other as human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    spending $6000 of ANY chick w/o BBBJ is bullshit.
    this will not end well here

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    that's you dude. many guys would feel much more comfortable kissing a prostitute knowing that her mouth hasn't been on lots of random cocks for a few thousand bucks.
    and to me, i think GFE is also about how you interact with the client. a "true GFE" is not just about the sex but also fun conversation and the idea that both parties care about the other as human beings.
    True!! Fact of the matter is Not EVERYONE can afford 6k a week. Not EVERYONE can afford $400 an hour. The guy that's thinking "6k a week and she dosen't do bbbjs?" is the guy I wouldn't want to see. I have seen many men that are ok with this. I have seen men that aren't into DATY.. oh well. I can't complain.
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    Just because one provider is struggling to make $250 in texas dosen't mean I won't bank in texas. Hell just because 10 providers in texas are struggling to make $250 an hour dosen't mean I couldn't bank there. Am I planning on visiting texas? No. Maybe I will in the future and If I did I wouldn't lower my rate for ANYONE AND I still wouldn't offer BBBJs. There is nothing wrong with NOT offering BBBJs it's perfectly fine. (I'm kinda grossed out)

    The thought of me putting MY lips on all those men's cock is pretty fucking gross! I mean c'mon just think about it ..ew.

    Why do women feel they have to do extra shit to make money?.. bbbj, cim .. those things TO ME are just too much... with someone you KNOW and trust? of course.. but with someone random that's paying me 6k a week or even $400 an hour? It's NOT WORTH IT!

    And If I did feel comfortable blowing men without protection My rate will be higher than what it is now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    that's you dude. many guys would feel much more comfortable kissing a prostitute knowing that her mouth hasn't been on lots of random cocks for a few thousand bucks.
    and to me, i think GFE is also about how you interact with the client. a "true GFE" is not just about the sex but also fun conversation and the idea that both parties care about the other as human beings.
    LOL many hot girls also do it for free with all kinds of guys, , so what we turn them down too, because they are party girls? Nobody would touch half the girls out here if we were worried about that. Get real.

    GFE is GFE so stop trying to reinvent what is means, as the generally accepted definition iinvolves both kissing and BBBJ. A small percentage use the term differently, but its really not an accurate use of the term. However if someone states what is and what's not included upfront, then that's fair, no one would have cause to complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast101 View Post
    LOL many hot girls also do it for free with all kinds of guys, , so what we turn them down too, because they are party girls? Nobody would touch half the girls out here if we were worried about that. Get real.
    Correction.

    * Many Hot (stupid) girls do it for free with all kinds of guys.
    Just like ...
    * Many ASPs have unprotected sex.

    Life is not black and white like that Mr Westcoast. ThOSE are both very stupid things to do but people do it. It's nice to know you'd put yourself at risk like that. Just because You'll do something so stupid dosen't mean everyone has to follow. It's your life do you.

    GFE is GFE so stop trying to reinvent what is means, as the generally accepted definition iinvolves both kissing and BBBJ. A small percentage use the term differently, but its really not an accurate use of the term. However if someone states what is and what's not included upfront, then that's fair, no one would have cause to complain.
    HERE in charlotte, north carolina Men do NOT expect a GFE provider to BBBJ. Gfe means Girlfriend experience with a prostitute where she provides a lot of CUDDLING and KISSING! YOU don't try to reinvent the word ok? I understand that some men would expect a GFE to offer BBBJ.. just because you expect it dosen't mean ya gonna get it. One guy expected me to stick my finger in his ass.. UM.. Hell no! Yes I ALWAYS let my clients know what they'll be getting but BBBJ is not on the menu.

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    Westcoast is just a bitter, woman hating jackass who constantly talks out of his ass. I would say you should take whatever he says with a grain of salt, but that would be too generous. I think you can pretty much disregard anything he has to say on the subject of women and the sex industry.
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    ^ Thanks Elvia. I didn't know this about him. Now I'll have to TRY and ignore his posts. Ugh!

    For anyone that's curious .. Yes you can be a True GFE provider and not give bbbjs.. this is a comment I pulled from naughtyreviews.com

    I have been with many . One thing I have found that is not always defined in the GFE realm, is bbbj, not all GFE providers believe this to be a mandatory part of gfe. Many young women these days are taking precautions, even with the men the date, especailly if they are dating many men every single day, and with Gonnereah of the throat, Herpes of the mouth, HPV, and God knows what else you can catch from unprotected oral, I have to agree with the girls that say "GFE, like a girlfriend....Not SGFE....like a Stupid girlfriend"
    Take it however ya want. All I know is If I was going around giving bbbjs the money I have in the bank now would be double.. sowwy to those that feel like they have to sell themselves short to make a quick buck. Adding more to this in a few...


    Full definition of GFE (Pulled of wiki):

    GFE: The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers. There is a focus on not just completing a sexual act, but also having more of an experience. Often sessions last longer and are "no rush," which means the call girl spends the full advertised time rather than rushing out after a climax. Common activities usually offered by GFE escorts include kissing[2] and/or french kissing, cuddling[2] and foreplay. By contrast, non-GFE prostitutes typically refrain from kissing because they consider it more emotionally intimate than sexual intercourse without kissing.[citation needed] A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection.

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    GFE can mean alot of things to alot of different people. I have experienced GFE type encounters in the club, which obviously dont imply any sexual activity or even kissing. I think outside the escort world it can simply mean basically arm candy. Like taking a girl out like you would take out your girlfriend, wine n dine them.

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    When I was with the agency I went on a call where the guy wanted a GFE experience. I got to his condo, checked his Id and he paid me (400hr, $200 going to the agency) we had sex but it lasted about 10 minutes then he asked If I wanted to watch tv.. I'm like "sure". We watched curb your enthusiasm the WHOLE time till the hour was up while cuddling. When I got ready to go I called the agency and checked out then he asked "Would you mind If I took you out for a sandwich... " I''m thinking yeahh ...I guess (but I had just checked out) He was like "I'll pay you $300 to come with me and I'll bring you back to your car." He was a very nice so I went..(Got in his car and all.. we were in Uptown and there was people everywhere so I felt comfy) We stopped the bank of america ATM and he handed me $300 (I kept the whole 300) then we headed to Bojangles and he made me buy him a sandwich that was maybe $2.50. We went back to his condo and I watched the rest of the CYE episode and I went home. That whole experience to him was a GFE experience. He didn't ask for a bbbj, cbj, bj.. he really just wanted to cuddle and enjoy my company.

    This was no average joe. He's a plastic surgeoun and his ex girlfriend was Ms. Maine Usa (Had pics with her and all). His condo was probably three sizes bigger than my place and my apartment is huge. ONLY broke Men talk like Mr West Coast. If you're thinking about escorting set your limits and RESPECT yourself and others WILL respect you. simple. Like Clare said "Men seriously treat you better when you treat yourself better."

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    Or someone who just makes a hell of a lot more money than you and has respect for the safety of himself and others.
    respect for the safety of others? it seems odd then that you, apparently in your swingers group, and the OP with her customers, are not stopping these crazy? guys from putting themselves at risk, from engaging in DATY. you must realize that's a comparable risk

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    ^exactly it is a risk I am willing to take in my swingers circles. If a guy or girl asked me to use a condom or dam I would happily oblige them. If you are suggesting that I should educate adults on the risks before they eat my pussy, I think that's a bit silly isn't it. The people I fuck are educated and intelligent I'm sure they know what the risks are. I respect other peoples wishes and concerns for safety and if they wanted to use protection for oral then that's what I'd do- without bitching about it.

    I could also say it's not exactly comparable since even after 4 years of swinging I've slept with under 20 people and I assume an escort might see that many or more in a month, but it doesn't really matter because I don't know how many people the people I've slept with have slept with, hence why I get tested several times a year.

    There was a time (before I was swinging) I thought about hiring an escort for my husband and I and I certainly would not have thought it a rip off if they used protection. I would understand it is safety in the workplace and a personal choice of the lady.

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    When I was with the agency I went on a call where the guy wanted a GFE experience. I got to his condo, checked his Id and he paid me (400hr, $200 going to the agency) we had sex but it lasted about 10 minutes then he asked If I wanted to watch tv.. I'm like "sure". We watched curb your enthusiasm the WHOLE time till the hour was up while cuddling. When I got ready to go I called the agency and checked out then he asked "Would you mind If I took you out for a sandwich... " I''m thinking yeahh ...I guess (but I had just checked out) He was like "I'll pay you $300 to come with me and I'll bring you back to your car." He was a very nice so I went..(Got in his car and all.. we were in Uptown and there was people everywhere so I felt comfy) We stopped the bank of america ATM and he handed me $300 (I kept the whole 300) then we headed to Bojangles and he made me buy him a sandwich that was maybe $2.50. We went back to his condo and I watched the rest of the CYE episode and I went home. That whole experience to him was a GFE experience. He didn't ask for a bbbj, cbj, bj.. he really just wanted to cuddle and enjoy my company.

    This was no average joe. He's a plastic surgeoun and his ex girlfriend was Ms. Maine Usa (Had pics with her and all). His condo was probably three sizes bigger than my place and my apartment is huge. ONLY broke Men talk like Mr West Coast. If you're thinking about escorting set your limits and RESPECT yourself and others WILL respect you. simple. Like Clare said "Men seriously treat you better when you treat yourself better."
    OMG so true! Exactly what I have found. I have a few SC regulars and the richest ones don't even what you to dance. They just wanna hang out with you. It's like they can get most girls anyway because of their money and they just wanna feel normal or something. I also had one regular ask me to come over to his place one afternoon and cuddle and watch a movie for $700. No one believed me that he didn't want sex... he didn't! He didn't even try to kiss me. He was just genuinely lonely.

    It's only the broke guys who bitch about not liking your dance or wanting you to do more "tricks". pffft. The funniest is the ones that claim they do have money. They think making $200K is "money". They don't get that we know guys who are worth $100 million or more.

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    OMG so true! Exactly what I have found. I have a few SC regulars and the richest ones don't even what you to dance. They just wanna hang out with you. It's like they can get most girls anyway because of their money and they just wanna feel normal or something. I also had one regular ask me to come over to his place one afternoon and cuddle and watch a movie for $700. No one believed me that he didn't want sex... he didn't! He didn't even try to kiss me. He was just genuinely lonely.

    It's only the broke guys who bitch about not liking your dance or wanting you to do more "tricks". pffft. The funniest is the ones that claim they do have money. They think making $200K is "money". They don't get that we know guys who are worth $100 million or more.
    You're gonna have to ignore dude.. He's getting on my nerves I don't even know why he's commenting on this thread but oh well.. Ugh @ the men on this board.
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    You're right! Broke men just don't have that luxury. I've never had a client that complained about money or anything like that. A man complaing about money is a HUGE turn off for me.. LOL! Anyways, hey If you feel like you're worth $500-$1k an hour.. hell go for it! You'd be suprised how many man would pay to see you. I'm gutsy but not gutsy enough to charge the 1k an hour just yet.. Oh but that day will come.

    P.s I was on eros just browsing and I saw a ebony escort that charges 8k for a whole day MINIMUM! She wasn't even cute.. I was like wutttttttttt..lol

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    8K for a day...she's only gotta do 10 days a year to make 80k

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    8K for a day...she's only gotta do 10 days a year to make 80k

    Yup I say smart girl. Her name is Jeanine.. She's has her own website and all. I'll raise my rates when my new business takes off.. not now.. lol!

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    You should post on eros and city vibe.. yes it's pricey but it's worth it. Eros is $95 for a basic ad and $350 for a VIP ad (Depending on your location). City vibe is $50 for premium advertising.
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