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    I enjoy talking to different people in the club and most of the time that how I would make my money. I would end up hanging out with only a couple of patrons a night and they would pay me for my time. I may a lot of buddies that way! They would sometimes get dances as well but often times not as they just enjoyed that fact that i was generally interested in them. However I DID always expect payment for my time and when hanging out with maybe three guys in a 6 hour period I'd come home with about $600 a night so that means each of them would give me about $200. I think you should keep it in mind that although we might be having a good time, this is our job and we CAN'T hang out with you unless you pay us. Otherwise it would be pointless to even come in to the club as we can talk to people anywhere.

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    So I was reading some of the many threads on this board (since I am board out of my skull at work) and ran into a man hateing thread. My question is simple do the ladies here want the men that post on this board to leave? My self not wanting to be where I am not wanted, would like to know. All I wanted to say is that I appreciate the insites provided to me from all of you. Especially being a new customer it has been extreamly helpful.

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    No. Its just a place to vent sometimes. Are there women on here who hate men in general? Sure. But they are sexist misanthropes who are not going to represent the majority of women. Hell, women anywhere can be misanthropes.

    Sometimes though, when your job is trying to please male needs and desires, and you get a particularly nasty bunch in a short period, its hard not to be angry at the entire lot.

    I was once mugged by a group of guys from a specific country. It took some time for me to overcome my distrust of all the people of this particular ethnicity.

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    you are my perfect customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippoman View Post
    There is a dancer that I buy dances from that asked me a few questions about how I was feeling and what I was thinking about. Being brand new to this sort of thing I find myself being extreamly cautious (sp?). So I told her that I had conflicting thoughts. Her responce was tell me about them. I said I'd tell her if she really wanted to know. She said she did. My question is how real do you think she wants the answer? I ended up telling her. I apologised for getting too serious about real life but she told me she didn't mind and asked for a hug and told me that she enjoyed my company. I am a very honest person and I can be nieve and to be honest it scares the hell out me that I have fantacy's about this woman. I am a married man with children and have not had the kind of attention and physical contact that she (the dancer) has given me from my wife in a long time. The more I told her the more she times she asked how I was doing. I went to the club for the first time a few weeks ago to try to get a little satisfaction and let my fantacies take shape. This dancer has satisfied those needs more than I have had those needs had been met in a year or more and on top of it I enjoy her company a great deal and like an idiot told her this. Did I do wrong? And yes I tipped her. May be this makes me a PL but I really don't care. Waiting to get flammed. any thoughts?
    Gah! This is exactly why I don't strip anymore because I have had too many customers "fall in love" with me. And really there are only a few things a girl can do in these situations...

    You can take full advantage of the guy and milk him for everything he has...

    Or

    You can stop seeing him as a client all together to avoid any further complications.

    The thing is that I have a heart and if I feel like a customer was getting too "addicted" to me and getting the wrong idea I will just start ignoring him to really save him from getting in too deep.

    All I can say is be very careful and if you are getting too interested in this girl you have to know no matter how nice and sincere she may seem that it is her job to deceive you and to lead you on.

    You should probably just stay away and get some counseling for you and your wife so she can be the one that gives you what you need physically and emotionally so you don't have to turn to girls that you have to pay to get them to pretend to like you.

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    Nothing wrong with being a PL, but Zippo, I still don't think you get it.

    Zippoman, Shasta sees you as a mark or an ATM card to exploit your emotions, and its not a compliment.

    just to inform you and no offense to her because customers are fair game, but Shasta is on the "taking advantage" thread saying recently

    "when I first started I felt guilt at times, and would sometimes move on from that guy. 100% of the time I would see them back up at the atm or getting money from the bar with another girl. If you don't take it- SOMEONE ELSE WILL!!!! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippoman View Post
    If all of this is true.(wich there is nothing to make me think otherwise) I don't think I'm cynical enough for going to strip clubs.
    Dude, you are waaay over-thinking this. When you read this site you are basically eves-dropping on the dancer's dressing room talk. If you don't want to read it don't read it. Does the fact that they are still saying it have to effect your ability to have fun with a naked woman wearing 7" heels?

    It sounds to me like you may have a problem reconciling the fact that dancers are there to entertain you, not because they like you. They want your money, not you. Understanding this is not cynicism. It is simply the act of accepting reality. I have found that I started having a lot more fun in clubs after I figured all of this out then I did before...


    By the way, if you spent five minutes in the basement of most restaurants you would never eat out again...
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    ^ Going to a strip club doesn't have to be about cynicism and mind games and manipulation. For some girls, that's just the way they make money. There are quite a few girls at my club who genuinely have no respect for any of their customers. A customer could come up to one of these girls with a thousand dollars, stick it in her G-string and tell her she's the most beautiful girl in the club, then leave the club, and she would still have nothing nice to say about him. Her attitude would be, "What a sucker," or, "What a loser," etc. They feel entitled to every cent they make. If a customer tips well, he's a desperate loser they take advantage of. If a customer doesn't tip well or doesn't want a dance from them, he's a cheap scumbag. These girls are just miserable people in general, and they would have that attitude no matter where they worked: strip club, bank, school, whatever. They don't have very good social skills--if a customer politely turns them down, they'll swear at him and get a nasty attitude, or just flip him the bird and stalk off. That does NOT make a good impression. And a good chunk of these girls are NOT girls who have been dancing for years and had the stress of the industry rub off on them.

    But not every stripper is like that, just like not every person in the work force is miserable. It's all about their general attitude. I think it also has to do with the type of club you frequent, and the area you're in. If the club you're going to attracts a lot of cheap assholes, and the bouncers don't back the girls up, and the management always sides with the customer over confrontations, you're going to find a lot of miserable strippers, because it's a miserable work environment. Whenever the management does something stupid at my club (usually involves one of the girls fucking the right person, then getting to bend/break the rules and becoming cutthroat), everyone is in a bad mood, and no one makes as much money because the customers pick up on it, and they don't want to be around miserable strippers.

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    It appears that zippoman has left the building....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippoman View Post
    If all of this is true.(wich there is nothing to make me think otherwise) I don't think I'm cynical enough for going to strip clubs.
    if you want to have hot women hanging in a bar all day half nude in their lingerie wearing 6 inch platform heels waiting for paying customers, you have to accept the other side of the coin, and that's the obvious need for them to fake certain things alot of the time.

    the good news is that the media spun widely accepted public image of strippers as mostly broken down, drug addicted , abused, desperate women, is simply not the reality with the vast majority of strippers

    so no need to be overly cynical

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    Since 2005 on Stripperweb and I have never been quoted, thanks WC.

    I am really not that mean!! But he was putting himself out that there that he is a super PL and I pictured myself as the matador with the red fabric.

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    Here is an actual ITC comment by a (ongoing convo for $$$ type only) dancer a few yrs back, where the issue of the strip club game would come up now and then.

    Dancer "we know that you know that we know that you know"

    Myself "ok.... i guess that makes sense""

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    Since 2005 on Stripperweb and I have never been quoted, thanks WC.

    I am really not that mean!! But he was putting himself out that there that he is a super PL and I pictured myself as the matador with the red fabric.
    I didn't think you were being mean at all. This board is not a good place for folks who have not yet figured out what strip clubs are really all about.

    Much like in the club, there are no training wheels in customer convo...
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    Tipping works. I'm a salesman and I know time is money. LD can find out. Better to pay for a few LDs and not blow a bundle in a private room. If you like her work, then book a private room. I always tip the dance cost (not that good--tip half of the three LDs, good/great--tip the total). If you tip, you get to find out. I tip 25% in private.

    I'm a regular at most of the places I go to some they know already and I tip well. I'm not into extras (wife rule) or touching. Wife knows it is just entertainment for the road. I was into extras before the wife but it was harder to get those in the late 80s/early 90s.

    My advice it to tip well and a good stripper will do everything to make it fun (no, I'm not pushing extras at all). Extras do go on more now than 10 years ago.

    Tip and tip often. If you think you'll have a happy ending (just blowing your wad not her doing anything extra or her doing extra) will happen since you got no control, wear a condom. Most guys should anyway. Great pvt or lapdance could get anyone too excited. If it happens, tip nice. Most will say gross but they know newbies and even some oldies have mistakes. Personally, I think it's gross too but if you wear a condom and have a mistake and keep a straight face and tip well, they just go about their business.

    If she offers extras, say no is really what you should do. I just say, "Thank you, no, I'm married. I like the tease, the eye contact and the convo." I just like going back to the hotel with a boner. Fantasize by yourself. No offence. I'm just real laid back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippoman View Post
    First let me say I know I am going to get flamed for this question. I have been to a strip club twice in the last two weekends. The first time ever being in a strip club and the first time getting a lap dance. What I wanna know is how do you know if a dancer that talks to you at length before and after lapdances if she realy enjoys talking to you or not? The reason I ask is I do not want to be a cusomer that bothers her. Any insite is appreciated thank you.
    Dude, enjoy the dance, chitchat, tip her well and don't fall in love. It's that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippoman View Post
    I do not want to be a cusomer that bothers her. Any insite is appreciated thank you.
    She wants you to pay her. If you pay her she will not be bothered.

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    I know the OP was ages ago, but I've always thought the answer was fairly simple.

    If a stripper willingly spends some of her time with you when there is no money involved, I'd think that's a pretty good sign she doesn't mind it and it's not bothering her.

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    I don't know why people think of dancing as so different from any other job/occupation. In my occupation, there are clients I have to feign interest in and others I genuinely enjoy talking to - but only as long as I am billing them for the time. There are virtually NO clients I would want to talk to for free (flirtatious hotties are the exception).

    So, yeah, if a dancer is making money, she might ALSO genuinely enjoy the conversation. She's on the clock, so she HAS to be making money. Otherwise, she's LOSING money by talking to you, and no one enjoys a conversation if they are losing money.

    Would you like to talk to a client/customer, even an interesting one, if you were not paid/docked the time you spent talking to them?
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    ^ Difference is that in SCs dancers are not always busy and sometimes even when there are potential customers they are tired or don't feel like working. I have had dancers sit and chat to me for good lengths of time while they could have been hustling. One dancer sat with me for over an hour even though the club was quite busy and she was the hottest girl there. She told me she didn't feel like working that night and would make up for it the next night, which would be busier. But after I had spent enough time checking out the other dancers in the club I told her I wanted a LD from her; and because I liked her and enjoyed chatting with her I also tipped her for the time we spent chatting, even though she wanted to sit with me anyway. When I asked her for an LD it seemed to make her quite happy so I guess she had relaxed long enough by that time.
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    ^ You don't think they were hoping to make money out of you?

    This is like networking. Even though no money is made in the immediate interaction, you expect to cultivate a relationship that will yield business transactions in the future.

    Anyway, you said you ended up tipping her and buying a lap dance. How do you know this wasn't a hustle?

    I have had dancers do this hustle on me (twice, and then I learned better) - "I'm just going to sit here next to you to relax for a while." Then, they start talking to you and you end up chatting for a long time... After she has "rested", she asks you if you want a dance. If you wanted a dance from her all along, no harm is done. But, if you didn't, you're now guilted into buying a dance because she's your new best friend.
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    I don't think hoping to make money and actualy enjoying the company of a customer (however rare that may be apparently) are necessarily mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddq138 View Post
    Also one time in my early SC days I had a dancers number and she told me on the phone one night she was feeling lonely and wanted some company. We could watch a movie or something. Being the idiot I was I speed off to blockbuster (this was before netflix and redbox) and rented a new popular dvd release and bought flowers. When I get to her apartment she looked dressed up and sexy, but the first question was "so how much money did you bring?" LOL She was not really interested in a movie or company she just wanted to sell sex. I did not bring a fat wad of cash with me so she just sent me home with blue balls several minutes later.
    Who suggested watching a movie? You or her?
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    After she has "rested", she asks you if you want a dance. If you wanted a dance from her all along, no harm is done. But, if you didn't, you're now guilted into buying a dance because she's your new best friend.
    Back in my dancing days, I found that I talking to someone for too long resulted in no dances BECAUSE I was the new best friend. Not one customer bought anything from me out of guilt.
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    ^ Maybe you didn't do it right. Its not like innocent-best-friend-that-reminds-me-of-my-little-sister, its more like flirtateous best friend... Some subtle flirtation, some light touching, smiling, eye contact, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post

    I have had dancers do this hustle on me (twice, and then I learned better) - "I'm just going to sit here next to you to relax for a while." Then, they start talking to you and you end up chatting for a long time... After she has "rested", she asks you if you want a dance. If you wanted a dance from her all along, no harm is done. But, if you didn't, you're now guilted into buying a dance because she's your new best friend.
    Honestly Jack you make it sound as if these girls put some sort of hypnotic spell on you and you had no choice in buying a dance from them...

    Ultimately, you buy a dance because you want to. No one is forcing you to do it.
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