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    No. I never take advantage of someone. That is the quickest way to LOSE customer!!
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    Default Re: Do you ever feel guilt for taking advantage of someone?

    No reason to feel bad. You were providing a service and he was paying. The only times I'd feel bad was if he was retarded and didn't know what he was getting into (and that rarely happens). I never ripped off a customer (having them pay for more dances than they received, etc) but I'd feel guilty about that as well. Otherwise, no. I never even felt bad when I led a guy on thinking he'd date me. If he's that unreasonable to think he had a chance it's his fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britneyireland View Post
    No. I never take advantage of someone. That is the quickest way to LOSE customer!!
    This is how I feel. Plus I don't need the drama of a stalker and repeat business is good.

    BUT If a guy is just drunk and paying for dances willingly, taking the money out of his own wallet, I don't think that is taking advantage (unless he's so trashed he has no idea what's going on or if the guy owes 5 $20s and gives 5 $100s by mistake, I *would* consider that taking advantage).

    Unless he was a TOTAL douche, but even then I would think twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camillian View Post
    This is how I feel. Plus I don't need the drama of a stalker and repeat business is good.

    BUT If a guy is just drunk and paying for dances willingly, taking the money out of his own wallet, I don't think that is taking advantage (unless he's so trashed he has no idea what's going on or if the guy owes 5 $20s and gives 5 $100s by mistake, I *would* consider that taking advantage).

    Unless he was a TOTAL douche, but even then I would think twice
    You're a better woman than I, because I would pocket the hell out of that. Not my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    LoL. Hell no. Was someone forcing drinks down his throat? Did you stand there with a gun to his head and tell him he better run up his credit card? He's an adult. He did what he wanted.
    You were at work, you did your job. Enjoy your money. No hell involved.

    Exactly, Well said. If it wasn't you it would have been someone else.

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel guilt for taking advantage of someone?

    When I first started I felt guilt at times, and would sometimes move on from that guy. 100% of the time I would see them back up at the atm or getting money from the bar with another girl. If you don't take it- SOMEONE ELSE WILL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by althea815 View Post
    I know what you mean. I feel especially bad when it's a really nice, but maybe socially awkward kind of guy who desperately wants me to be his girlfriend. Going to the club is probably the only way a pretty girl will smile and laugh with him and it really affects him and gives him false hopes. I feel incredible guilt as well.
    A lot of times that's true. And that is a service that you provide, for a fee. Don't feel guilty about your fee. Your fee is set by supply and demand. If he wanted a girl to love him for who he is on the inside, he wouldn't be paying strippers for their attention.

    They make their own deal with themselves when they walk in the door. They are buying something that you are selling. Don't get more emotionally involved than that... if someone equally attractive would provide the same service for less, they wouldn't feel guilty about dropping you and hiring her instead. Don't let this get personal.

    Yes, I would feel bad for taking advantage of someone. But I never took advantage of customers - and as far as I can tell the OP didn't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    You're a better woman than I, because I would pocket the hell out of that. Not my problem.

    I don't know about being a better woman, but a pussy, yes, and a terrible stripper, definitely, ha ha.

    I honestly didn't realize most gals lied to custies until recently. I never did, I always told the truth about being in a relationship, etc. If a guy asked me about dances, I would say that I follow the rules. If I where handed a large bill, I would make sure that it was meant to be there and not an accident. Yeah, I am unbelievably lame. Probably why I make a super suck-y stripper.
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    Guilt Guilt Guilt... it was the end of the night just before Last Call about 5-7 songs before Lights ON. I have had more drinks bought for me than normal, but by no means am I drunk. Anyways I walk past a table I had visited earlier and am waved over by one of the guys. He has me sit on his lap. A few moments later I new to me guy (who obviously knows the others) sits down, takes one look at me and reaches the distance of an empty chair plus air space, grabs my wrist and practically drags my onto his lap. Well He was Smashed and rather grabby of my breasts, trying to pull off my bra and top, which I politely remove his hands from. After several song I finally convince him to buy me some Lap Dances. He has ordered a drink from the waitress who finds us in the VIP. I was worried that he would be so drunk that he might not have understood he had to pay or that he would have no money and be too drunk to ATM or CC. So I told him the house rules were that I needed to 'see the money', when it is so close to Closing Time...HEE HEE. He had money. He pulls out a bill clip which had several $5s 2 $10s No $20s a number of $50 and a few $100s... ( I know this cause he was so drunk that he took forever to find the right bills to set aside for one dance, and when the waitress came.)
    My thinking when the waitress came was that as his total Drinks bill was $24, and He had no $20s that it would be easier to convince him to buy more dances if the waitress was paid with the 2 $10s and a $5. She was helpful but Not happy cause I think she was hoping for a Bigger tip herself and I was not even thinking that she was more than able to brake any bill he had. He then insists he already paid me which he had not, and the waitress confirms that he had not yet handed me any money, only pulled 2 $10 out which where used to pay for drinks NOT dances. He most have stopped the dance a few times and twice I had to get the waitress back to help him understand that he had NOT paid me for ANY dances yet. At one point he asks me how many he owed me for and asks "4?"...I did not think it has been 4 songs yet but I decided to go along with it... 'Yes 4 songs'. Again he gets me to get the waitress because he is SURE he has Already handed me Money... GAH!
    At that point I am getting a bit annoyed cause he is very touchy feely and I don't want to have to wrestle the money out of him on top of it and I am tired and ready to go home. He is finally made to see that he had NOT paid me any money yet and so pulls out a $100 and asks for another dance rather than my braking it and giving him a $20 back...

    Part of me feels guilty for letting him believe there had been more dances than there probably where...I do not feel guilty for being paid for his wandering hands that I had to redirect all the time nor for time HE wasted having me go get and then have the waitress get involved in the payment process. He was by no means the worst touchy feely guy I have ever dealt with nor as it went on did I continue to feel that it would be hard to get him to pay...
    That is the first time I have ever done anything like that...
    I am not sure what to think or feel... Part of me thinks that I took advantage and am guilty of over counting (or agreeing to there having been more songs than true...)
    There is my Guilt Story

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel guilt for taking advantage of someone?

    ^hmmm ya if a guy has several hundreds or fifties I would not feel guilty about a one or two song error. One club I worked at it is common practice to cut dances 1-2 songs short and charge the full amount. Now if you told him each dance was worth $100 and he'd had 4 then I would feel a little bad. LOL

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    I would consider any extra you made to be your "roaming hands" fee and be done with it. Dealing with grabby guys is its own punishment, that money is your reward.

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    It might help to create a *somewhat* bitchy, high horse attitude because when your a dancer, in situations like this the only way you will make more money than what they are willing to give you is by taking it. You have to feel like you deserve it more than he does, so knowing you deserve more $ than he has given you will help you not feel guilty- in fact- it might flip the script and make you feel like he should have given you way more to put up with him. I just have never encountered a top earner that isn't like this.

    Someone has a quote on here that mentions a dancers sense of entitlement of something for nothing - eff it, I would way rather get something for nothing while working in this industry.

    *I would never ever ever lie about how many dances we did tho. I just can't do it! lol

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel guilt for taking advantage of someone?

    I used to, but now I realize I am NOT in fact taking advantage of them. They places their big boy self in the club, knowing exactly how we do our job. If he can't say no to a lapdance, why is that my problem if I receive the money for my service?

    Don't feel guilty. They are big boys and know what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer View Post
    Simple question...

    Do you ever feel guilty for taking advantage of someone?

    I had a really really drunk guy last night who was in love with me. I was treating him like a total scum bag and he was eating it up. Anyways he spent $800 on his credit card and this guy doesn't even have a job. He lives at home with his parents. (In a wealthy area mind you). I definitely coulda got more outta him but I just felt bad. I even gave him a "fake" number. I'm going to hell aren't I? He was even my age and a guy I would normally talk to or be friends with... ahhh the guilt.
    to answer your question, yes, sometimes. im not as ruthless as some strippers and i dont really do things that are actively taking advantage of someone unless they really deserve it, but once in a while i will get a guy who is like in love with me and i will wonder whether im playing head games or playing with peoples emotions in ways that they shouldnt be played with.

    but, usually the guilt is fleeting, and i dont lose any sleep... unless i am wide awake due to the excitement of making a huge amount of cash or the dirty feeling of having dealt with a customer who tried to take advantage of me.



    now in this specific case.... a drunk guy walks in to a strip club who is in his late 20s and lives at home with his wealthy parents and doesnt have a job?

    no, i wouldnt feel guilty.

    he doesnt have a job while living in a wealthy area? and he lives with his parents in this wealthy area meaning they are wealthy? My logic says, this means that he is too lazy to get a job because he can fall back on mommy and daddys money.

    so when he cant pay that 800$ credit card bill, he will probably beg them to help out.

    and i hope he has to explain where the 800$ bill came from .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick View Post
    I can understand that. I'm always afraid they will call the fake number while their inside the club and find out it was fake. Then they will harass me for giving them a fake number!
    Hahaha

    That happened to me the other night and he still did not stop. He ended up buying 2 more dances and gave me his number which soon after he left went into the trash can.

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    After the sale (and zero guilt), when you are thoroughly annoyed by the customer, pardon yourself because "the management needs to speak to you." This sounds official and urgent. If they see you again and ask for your number repeatedly, give them the number of your club.

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    RE my earlier post. I do give back money if someone has overpaid me by accident. I was referring to when I first started dancing and a custy really liked me, i would feel bad after so many dances. I would always see them spending on another girl which could have easily been me if I hadn't moved on. I changed my strategy based on something I read on SW years ago. Paraphrased: If the customer "has fallen for you" then selling dances/time becomes easy. Why leave an easy situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer View Post
    Simple question...

    Do you ever feel guilty for taking advantage of someone?

    I had a really really drunk guy last night who was in love with me. I was treating him like a total scum bag and he was eating it up. Anyways he spent $800 on his credit card and this guy doesn't even have a job. He lives at home with his parents. (In a wealthy area mind you). I definitely coulda got more outta him but I just felt bad. I even gave him a "fake" number. I'm going to hell aren't I? He was even my age and a guy I would normally talk to or be friends with... ahhh the guilt.
    I tend to agree with most of the replies here apart from one point.

    The customers are adults and should know exactly what they are letting themselves in for in a SC, although I'm with 'britneyireland' in saying that REALLY taking advantage is the easiest way to lose a customer - and especially if - as 'mediocrity' said - they are so utterly trashed that they have no idea what they are doing.

    One thing I do disagree with however, is treating the customer - as you said - like a 'scum bag'. Drunk or not, he was the Customer - and unless he was rude, physically out of line towards you (which you do not say he was), or a masochist - there was no excuse for you treating him in this way.

    Good manners cost nothing - but mean so much. If he - or his friends remember that you were pleasant, polite or humourous - despite his condition - he/they would be more likely to come again and spend money, drunk or sober.

    That of course, is just my opinion.
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    ^no no when I said "eating it up" I mean he liked it. It turned him on. I don't normally use that style. I'm really nice. Nice didn't work on this guy. He was bored. Until I started calling him names. Then he loved it. LOL

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    When I first started out, I had this customer who decided that he was in love with me. I felt bad for the guy because he was going through a rough divorce so I was nice to him and told him that he only thought he felt that way about me because he was in a emotionally vulnerable state and that it wasn't real.

    He thanked me by talking a bunch of shit about me to everyone who would listen and calling me a stupid bitch who was turning her back on the only person who could ever love her. Because no one but him could ever love some skanky, nasty stripper, right?

    I'm done with guilt. I don't rob anybody but I will take every damn cent I can get from them and I don't give a flying crap about their feelings or their finances.

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    I don't "take advantage" of customers, so no.

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    A fool and his money is...

    lucky to get together in the first place.

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    i feel like a lot of girls here are talking about taking dudes money like its some kind of revenge, or "thats what they get" Instead, I like to think that if a guy is spending crazy cash(or credit), and we are both having a good time its a win/win situation. Sure he might wake up and regret it in the morning, but who hasn't had a night like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carmenlove View Post
    i feel like a lot of girls here are talking about taking dudes money like its some kind of revenge, or "thats what they get" Instead, I like to think that if a guy is spending crazy cash(or credit), and we are both having a good time its a win/win situation. Sure he might wake up and regret it in the morning, but who hasn't had a night like that?

    sometimes it is revenge. much deserved revenge.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carmenlove View Post
    i feel like a lot of girls here are talking about taking dudes money like its some kind of revenge, or "thats what they get" Instead, I like to think that if a guy is spending crazy cash(or credit), and we are both having a good time its a win/win situation. Sure he might wake up and regret it in the morning, but who hasn't had a night like that?
    I agree. It sounded like it to me as well. This is a sensible view to take.

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    sometimes it is revenge. much deserved revenge.
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